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Mishaela

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What the crap is with people wanting to XP on Torama and Tragopan at 59-61? Worse yet is when there's crap like melee RDMs wanting to XP off of Tormentors at 61.

Discuss? =/
 
Mishaela said:
Worse yet is when there's crap like melee RDMs wanting to XP off of Tormentors at 61.

Discuss? =/
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@ 61 ?!
 
Khidir said:
@ 61 ?!
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I merited earlier to day. The first RDM meleed. Then he had to go, so we got another RDM. He meleed too.
 
matchuu said:
rdm melee in a merit pt?

and you xp on torama at 59-62 and tragopans are good xp 60-64
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Are you serious? Even in +45acc and 5 axe merits I have a hell of a time hitting either of them. Can actually say I have the same problem landing debuffs on them as RDM with five enfeebling merits. If you say so, though...

And yeah, I got a party that almost wound up at Tormentors while XPing on 61WAR. Fun times...
 
Mishaela said:
Are you serious? Even in +45acc and 5 axe merits I have a hell of a time hitting either of them. Can actually say I have the same problem landing debuffs on them as RDM with five enfeebling merits. If you say so, though...

And yeah, I got a party that almost wound up at Tormentors while XPing on 61WAR. Fun times...
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Try using food.

Its under the Auction House under food >> meals >> Seafood >> most of the sushis are good for an accuracy boost. =]
 
I have another random question.

Whats a mullet?
 
It's time i think to forget torama camp and tormentor camp guys. I have been there in two different parties : ppl said eww, ToAU sucks, it is packed and we lag ... Ok then we go Labyrith of onzozo for toramas. Mobs were IT-VT. Xp was really crap. I mean they dropped 200+xp, but it was like 5 mins a fight.

Those toramas have like double defense compared to ToAU mobs >,>. We ended up doing 3,5 k/H.

Another time i was invited to go to den of rencor (because ToAU "sucks") to kill lizzards. We had rdm to dispel. First since the whm didnt have the Cristal (o_o) we tried to kill one with 5 : it was almost a wipe. Then white mage came and we managed to kill one : the mob was IT+ ... took 5 minutes to kill and gave 140 xp.
Last time i xp there lol.
 
I don't know about you, but all the times I've exped on tormentors and toramas (a lot with RDM BLM WHM, twice with NLU), I didn't have a problem hitting them, nor did I have a problem landing debuffs on them.

Toramas are better 60-62, and not 58-62 since 58 is a bit low. Can even exp on them at 63. Toermentors are better to exp on 62-64(66). Can work up to 66. Tragopans in sky are good 60-64, those are good exp too.
Steelshells in The Boyahda Tree are good exp 64-68.
 
Torama were easy xp...not gonna comment on the stupid rdms though.
 
Torama xp pts are made for standard xp pts with a SC and a MB they have very little HP so a nice MB with a SC is a easy win and fast xp, majority of ppl dont know wtf a SC is let alone how to time a MB so maybe that was the problem of the xp pt.
Tormenters are more of a 66-69 xp pt maybe even into 70 but the problem with Den of rancor is we always ran out of lizards, but with a light sc on my rng we destroyed them. 10 sec fight blade:ten > dragon kick > fragmentation > arching arrow > light > MB = dead liz.
Tragopans are a pain to tank on nin due to there stun move, but i xp on them on rng thf nin and never had acc issues idk what food your are eatting being a mithra you shouldnt have acc issues.
 
Yeah, I staticed with a rng on Torama lvlng my Blm. He would open Distortion, I would MB Flood (1300 avg, 1400+ high). Usually took them out with that sc when they were down by 25-50% hp, as long as the rng didn't miss, lol. These were the perfect example of why MBing AM's was good. These are more for high spike dmg jobs though.
 
When I leveled Monk I started on Tragopans at 59. I don't recall having bad accuracy, but I do recall that the xp was flowing quite nicely.
 
Phraust said:
Try using food.

Its under the Auction House under food >> meals >> Seafood >> most of the sushis are good for an accuracy boost. =]
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Thank you, Lt. Smartass. =P

Maybe I've just been getting some of those spoonfed parties or something. I do know that Tormentors are like, L76ish, so doing them even with a Bard would turn out to be a bad problem pre-64...Oh well, thanks for the input guys.

And just out of curiosity since I've not even managed to get a party for em yet...are normal Colibri bad exp compared to these other mobs or something? I know they reflect magic and all but when the only magic being reflected is debuffs that can be -na'd or Erased, is it seriously so bad that they should be avoided?
 
Lizards in Den of Rancor are only good until 66 MAYBE 67 at the absolute most. Any time past that is horrible exp. Tragopen in Bibiki Bay are good 60-64, and Toramas are 59-63. I've done really well w/ Tragopen when the ToAU camps were overloaded, I got 60-68 in Bibiki Bay alone, cause I got tired of the lag. Yes, ToAU is better for exp, but when it's crowded so bad that exp slows down to a measly 3.5k an hour even there, it's worthless.

Ninja Edit: No, colibri aren't too bad. I exped alittle on them. As long as you -na the debuffs you put on, and don't have a BLM nuking it, yer usually fine.
 
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Kypdurrondragoon said:
Lizards in Den of Rancor are only good until 66 MAYBE 67 at the absolute most. Any time past that is horrible exp. Tragopen in Bibiki Bay are good 60-64, and Toramas are 59-63. I've done really well w/ Tragopen when the ToAU camps were overloaded, I got 60-68 in Bibiki Bay alone, cause I got tired of the lag. Yes, ToAU is better for exp, but when it's crowded so bad that exp slows down to a measly 3.5k an hour even there, it's worthless.

Ninja Edit: No, colibri aren't too bad. I exped alittle on them. As long as you -na the debuffs you put on, and don't have a BLM nuking it, yer usually fine.
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Guess I'm just unused to the difficulty spike of mobs post-60. =/ In the past year all I've done is XP BST and merit jobs (etc) so I'm still sortof unused to how some of this works, y'know?

Thanks for the input.
 
Kypdurrondragoon said:
Lizards in Den of Rancor are only good until 66 MAYBE 67 at the absolute most. Any time past that is horrible exp.
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They're not good before 65, you'll take way too long to kill them and eat some nasty fireballs. 66-67 is their prime level, 68 is still decent exp, at 69 there's not enough of them to keep your party going.
 
lets forget about tormentor :p Ive had only on pt there- quite bad. dhalmels are always better.
 
Stouter said:
They're not good before 65, you'll take way too long to kill them and eat some nasty fireballs. 66-67 is their prime level, 68 is still decent exp, at 69 there's not enough of them to keep your party going.
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kill monkeys :O
 
idk, some of the mobs you complain about can actually yield very high xp.

however, they are definitely idiot challenged.. so if you have someone stupid, they can REALLY suck... lol...

tormentors/torama/tragopens
 
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