Rated XXX..cuz [M] isn't gonna cut it...

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Elemmire said:
wait.. having two lvl 70 jobs is saying he plays a lot? look at the jobs he level to 70+ XD I mean.. come on.. getting BLM to 75 is as easy as RDM and WHM.. it's not hard.. only hard for WHM with the R3 part being 1.5 mil now.. but ya >_> the only job easier than RDM (prior 41), BLM, and WHM to level to 75 is BRD.... getting those to 75 don't take long at all.. I'm only a 72 RDM cause I dun really play much more than a few hours a day and have taken months upon months of breaks XD *should be doing homework but slacking >_>* XD

EVERY other point in this thread had been disected. So I just want to point this one out. WTF??? Blm to 75 is easy? Sure if ya play it gimp. Whm is tougher because R3 is 1.5 mil? Excuse me? Ive busted my arse to get my eq and job levels, and to have my hard work dismissed because my job is percieved as "easy" is a tad insulting.


I also want to point out something I find rather ironic. Firestreak posted a link to a Jezza post and said she criticized Vang. If you read the post, she didnt criticize Vang at all (actually she said he had some good points). She was infact criticizing people that follow Vang's post around and kiss and/or crawl up his arse. She also state (and here's the ironic part) that she wants to have someone like that. Well Jezza my friend, you apparently now have firestreak stalking you posts. Gratzzzz.

Be careful what you wish for.... :lol:
 
I'm with TiyaKelth....Firestreak had his right to make a point, afterall it is the flameboard - it's just his presentation was wrong. He admitted it and apologized. He's not saying it's wrong to be sexy or talk about sex, he was just annoyed at the fact that he saw that every one of Jezza's posts were about sex and said something. You make a post on the flameboard, expect to get flamed! :D

But please don't let this discussion end...it's extremely entertaining and I'm going to be very bored at work today!! :wink:
 
Ok - this is the last post (lol) but here are a few examples on non sexy Jezza talk (these aren't the ONLY examples...i just think that it is not fair to say that EVERY post of hers is sexual when it is not):

Jezza said:
When your body is hurting, people send flowers. When your mind is hurting, people throw rocks.

Okay..I'll grant anyone that of all the sciences, psychology is right up there on the continuum teetering dangerously close to being a "pseudo-science." Experiements involving human beings need to be constructed using strict ethical guidelines, creating a lack of true scientific integrity when testing hypotheses. I have much more faith in neuroscience and theory's that have been proven over time through repeated and varied experimental methods than anecdotal evidence. Most, if not all, of the information I'm about to share is from the latter.

That said, in any science, you have the more far out thoughts, ideas, and quacks. Anyone who says that someone GIVES themselves bipolar disorder should lose their license. I don't know enough, obviously, about the situation that someone spoke of in an earlier post, but I can tell you that under no circumstances should someone state such a thing to the family of someone receiving treatment for mental illness.

The symptoms of mental illness occur for multiple reasons. Biological or chemical causes (now twisted into the pop term "chemical imbalance"), or what are known as adjustment disorders.

The first, the biological causes, are caused by the same reasons some people get asthma, diabetes, or arthritis. It's a biological change brought about by environment, heredity, or a combination of the two. For example, PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) can be caused by repeated exposure to domestic violence over a lengthy period of time during one's childhood. There's a Harvard research study (I'd look it up to site it, and will if necessary) that found that children exposed to chronic and intense violence in the home between the ages of birth to 5 actually had altered brain chemistry. In this case, it's actually the environment that worked to alter biology, creating said condition.

The other scenario involves simply the biological composition of the brain. Brain scans have revealed that there are differences in the way people with mental illness function, the amounts of certain neurotransmitters (excesses or deficiencies), the size and activity levels in certain lobes, etc. Occasionally these disorders are hereditary.proven through in depth family histories and twin studies. Other times? Who knows...it's similar to any birth defect or disability one may develop or be born with. The onset of symptoms varies with age and the specific illness, so it IS possible for someone who seems "normal" to develop symptoms at any point in time.

The third scenario involving biological reasons, is a combination of the two. Someone may be biologicall predisposed to developing schizophrenia. They experience a very traumatic life event and BAM - onset of symptoms. It may be true that they would have developed the disorder regardless, however think in terms of other illnesses, such as asthma. You may be predisposed to developing the condition, however because of a healthy lifestyle and limited exposure to environmental pollutants, you never develop the disease. On the other hand, if you grow up in a house full of 30 chain-smokers the same person, being susceptable, may develop the disease.

Adjustment disorders are cause by traumatic life events. These are things that are typically categorized as "non-normative" life events. There is a typical life cycle, or pattern, most of us accept as normal. You're parents die before you, you die before your parents, you have children after you're married, etc. When something happens outside that frame of reference, it can be near debilitating without the right support system and coping mechanisms.

Cubs, your ex-friend sounds like they fit in the toughest, most difficult to treat category, the category of people that are almost impossible to treat. Assuming therapy is effective, the group that suffer from "personality disorders" have a 99% recidivism rate. There is a lot of new, and I think exciting, research that points to the idea that more of our personality are inborn than previously thought. This makes these disorders particularly difficult to treat. Cubs experience scream "borderline personality disorder." Superficial attempts to suicide, constant calls for help, a seeming unwillingness to break out of self-destructive behavior...this is my least favorite of all of the personality disorders. These clients are demanding, difficult, and needy. I can only imagine what it's like forming a relationship with someone with those symptoms and, in fact, regardless of what he did or said, this person wouldn't change. Distancing yourself from someone like that is self-preservation, not heartlessness.

However, cutting (not suicide attempts) is a different matter. I don't joke about self-mutilation simply because a far-reaching majority of the time, it's a response to extreme abuse, typically sexual. As much as I'd like to agree with the "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" philosophy, I can't. I've heard too many stories too horrific to imagine and admire some people for their ability to survive. There are times that, while selfish, immoral, and for most of us, inconceivable, suicide seems like the only way out of a situation. Utter hopelessness and self-hatred leave people feeling like there is no other option.l

Now, if someone has a support system of friends and qualified professionals they can, obviously, learn to manage their illness, even appear cured. Some mental illnesses to have remission periods that far outlast the "active" times of their symptoms. Much like cancer patients, however, they are always considered in remission, and not "cured."

Once a person receives effective treatment, which research says is a combination of traditional talk therapy (pick your flavor, it really doesn't matter) and psychotropic medication in addition to having some healthy supports around them, they have a much higher chance of working through things. But remember, some mentall illnesses are biological and perceptions of reality can be morbidly altered. In most cases, however, once someone with a mental illness is shown a pathway to health, it really is in their court. The same is with a diabetic, who needs to consistently montior their blood sugar, food intake, etc..someone with mental illness needs to learn to self-monitor their moods, thoughts and behaviors using the tools provided by their mental health team and support system.

I always had a theory that when I worked with people, once they truly understood the nature of their illness, the interaction between their behaviors and thoughts, and the ways their illness impacts them - they were out of excuses for staying sick.

It is true that part of depression is a cyclic behavioral response known as "learned helplessness." The cycle is perpetuated by a series of behaviors like procrastination, attention-seeking, withdrawal, reinfocement, etc. And without quality treatment (which is actually fairly expensive and difficult to find, depending on geography) most of a depressed persons friends and family will unwittingly enable the cycle to continue, even worsen.

No one exists in this world that doesn't have issues, quirks, or battles with mood, even occasionally. We're all so quick to judge others..because we get uncomfortable..or because we've worked hard to get through our own shit, to have what we have, and it's frustrating to see people take an "easy way out." However, most people don't actively chose to be sick. Few of us would make the decision to develop an illness...and yet we lack compassion so often for those that are unfortunate enough to, for whatever reason, develop full-blown major depression, anxiety, etc.

This game...may or may not be some sort of microcosm of society. In it, we all share a common interest - that being - duh - this game. We all enjoy interaction, or power, or camaradarie...whatever aspect. But we all chose to play a game, to read and chat on forums, that do involve some degree of giving and getting feedback - even simple conversation - with others. Whatever need we're all having met by being here, as with anything that involves live beings - we have little choice regarding the others that troll these spots.

We're all going to argue, to disagree...we all bring life experiences and baggage along with us. There will always be someone better off, and someone worse off than you...here...or in real life. Venting is real. Pep has as much a right to vent as Cubs does to attack the post with his business-like attitude and dry wit. I may hate half the shit he says..I may call him out on that...but that's the reality here people - the flameboard is not moderated..you post here at your own risk. We won't all get along...but what fun would it be if we did?

Okay, this is waayyy to long as it is, but I think I've said everything I need to.

<Deep breath>



That is all.

Jezza said:
w00t!!

First...why 30 - 50? Why not 16? or 60 (an hour, in case you didn't know)...

You're odd.

Second - AMEN!!! I was in a pt the other day - lvl 59-61...First, NO ONE had any oils or powders on em and it took us forever to get through LoO..THEN the whm announced they didn't use reraise because they took too much of an exp hit and informed us we should "make nice with the whim in the other pt" if we all got dead. The puller managed to get us to chain 2 only twice in an hour +..I only used convert like..3 times - and usually if a pt is going great I'm converting at least every 10-12 minutes...

I went off topic..shit..

Anyway - not having a warp something or other, a few oils n powders (see retarded melee post) is just plain STUPID. By the time you get to CN...hell - by the time you get to the jungles you should always at least have a way to warp yerself out. Not every party has a blm..and yeah - it is a big freakin deal to disband, or even raise when you're in a pt. If you've got time for the break - cool...and I've rarely seen mages say no - but they do have the RIGHT to say no.

Wolf - I'm going to call your mommy and tell her to take away your computer and your toys and get you a written language tutor and a decent social skills self-help book...

Better yet...ever considered boot camp? You seem like a prime candidate :twisted:
 
hmmm ... entertain Sabs? kay I'll entertain further!!!

IF (which I never will, Kat don't swing that way and is totally heterosexual), but IF there was ever a woman, Jezza would be it!!! Have y'all seen her? Beautiful, intelligent, sexy, fun!!!! Damn why more men be like her :lol: !!!!

I think Jezza rocks, and I look forward to her XXX posts personally. She's my kind of Lady, and that, my friends is what she is, a Lady NOT a dirty whore ...
 
arghhh Jender you beat me to it >< I was going to quote non sex stuff she wrote ><
but my damn Bio teacher is breathing down my neck here >.>

anyways, I dont think talking about sex alot is a big deal, and Im all for womens sexuality. *insert immature childish snicker here* I think Firestreak made a point (that I disagree with) but it was HIS opinion and no one else has a right to tell him he is wrong. (I think he is wrong, but I dont want to argue)
 
Kat said:
hmmm ... entertain Sabs? kay I'll entertain further!!!

IF (which I never will, Kat don't swing that way and is totally heterosexual), but IF there was ever a woman, Jezza would be it!!! Have y'all seen her? Beautiful, intelligent, sexy, fun!!!! Damn why more men be like her :lol: !!!!

I think Jezza rocks, and I look forward to her XXX posts personally. She's my kind of Lady, and that, my friends is what she is, a Lady NOT a dirty whore ...

This should read:

Damn why can't* more men be like her?
 
Kat said:
Kat said:
hmmm ... entertain Sabs? kay I'll entertain further!!!

IF (which I never will, Kat don't swing that way and is totally heterosexual), but IF there was ever a woman, Jezza would be it!!! Have y'all seen her? Beautiful, intelligent, sexy, fun!!!! Damn why more men be like her :lol: !!!!

I think Jezza rocks, and I look forward to her XXX posts personally. She's my kind of Lady, and that, my friends is what she is, a Lady NOT a dirty whore ...

This should read:

Damn why can't* more men be like her?

Why can more WOMEN be like her as well? :P
 
alanon said:
Elemmire said:
wait.. having two lvl 70 jobs is saying he plays a lot? look at the jobs he level to 70+ XD I mean.. come on.. getting BLM to 75 is as easy as RDM and WHM.. it's not hard.. only hard for WHM with the R3 part being 1.5 mil now.. but ya >_> the only job easier than RDM (prior 41), BLM, and WHM to level to 75 is BRD.... getting those to 75 don't take long at all.. I'm only a 72 RDM cause I dun really play much more than a few hours a day and have taken months upon months of breaks XD *should be doing homework but slacking >_>* XD

EVERY other point in this thread had been disected. So I just want to point this one out. WTF??? Blm to 75 is easy? Sure if ya play it gimp. Whm is tougher because R3 is 1.5 mil? Excuse me? Ive busted my arse to get my eq and job levels, and to have my hard work dismissed because my job is percieved as "easy" is a tad insulting.


I also want to point out something I find rather ironic. Firestreak posted a link to a Jezza post and said she criticized Vang. If you read the post, she didnt criticize Vang at all (actually she said he had some good points). She was infact criticizing people that follow Vang's post around and kiss and/or crawl up his arse. She also state (and here's the ironic part) that she wants to have someone like that. Well Jezza my friend, you apparently now have firestreak stalking you posts. Gratzzzz.

Be careful what you wish for.... :lol:

sorry.. but it's true.. you don't have to have the best gear with these jobs to get a party..nope.. not at all.. BRD is the easiest of them all... since it is in the most demand and least likely to find...and.. I dun see what you mean by gimped.. if you mean subjob. that's easy to level up to 37 in a short amount of time... needing up to 6k exp to level is nothing... and if you mean equipment gimped then you haven't read my opinion on gear with that thread... having the best gear does not make you a good player >_> http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=6137 read ^^v
 
I dun care what people think but I agree with Firestreak... everyone is arguing against him but only like 2 people maybe who have posted have actually read what he said.. and I've read all the other posts.. a lot of this thread is just retarded really... there are few actual intelligent points and.. I don't care what the rest of you think, Firestreak is making most of em... >_> meh <_<
 
Narell said:
No, but having good gear gives you the potential to be a better player. *pulls himself back on-topic*

it might give you the potential.. but not many live fully to it... I know I don't have the best of the best.. if I had the best I'd have me a Pluto Staff and all the other +1 of the elemental staves (I do help with nuking atleast during a MB) and I'd have a serket ring (these are what I can buy) now those that I can't buy would be things like Vivian Ring (same as serket but rare/ex) and Zenith but since I don't get help for anything and don't really get to go fight Gods or do many of the HNMs that I need for Zenith... (stupid times...) I can't get these >< I will get them when school is out.. this I assure myself!!! I want them.. I WILL HAVE THEM!! but anyways.. ya ^^v on with the stupidness!!!
 
alanon said:
Kat said:
Kat said:
hmmm ... entertain Sabs? kay I'll entertain further!!!

IF (which I never will, Kat don't swing that way and is totally heterosexual), but IF there was ever a woman, Jezza would be it!!! Have y'all seen her? Beautiful, intelligent, sexy, fun!!!! Damn why more men be like her :lol: !!!!

I think Jezza rocks, and I look forward to her XXX posts personally. She's my kind of Lady, and that, my friends is what she is, a Lady NOT a dirty whore ...

This should read:

Damn why can't* more men be like her?

Why can more WOMEN be like her as well? :P

Wait til after 30 Alanon. There will be :wink: .
 
I have 11 years too ^^ but by then I'll prolly be married.. I think.. I dunno.. we'll see how the future comes ^^v oh.. and to clarify what I said earlier.. I agree with what firestreak said about someone talking about one thing and only one thing over and over... >< and ya.. other things he said but not sure about her being a dirty whore cause I have no idea what she is like XD
 
Kat said:
Wait til after 30 Alanon. There will be :wink: .

Good, mere months to go........
 
you know you'd still want the younger girls, Alanon XD males tend to like the younger girls for some weird reason (only real theory I can see is evolutionary the younger the more furtile) so ya ^^v
 
Elemmire said:
you know you'd still want the younger girls, Alanon XD males tend to like the younger girls for some weird reason (only real theory I can see is evolutionary the younger the more furtile) so ya ^^v

:lol: ya think???? You do crack me up Ele ...
 
that's what it seems to me ^^v but that's me ^^
 
Elemmire said:
you know you'd still want the younger girls, Alanon XD males tend to like the younger girls for some weird reason (only real theory I can see is evolutionary the younger the more furtile) so ya ^^v


<~~~ loves older women. Older the berry, Sweeter the juice ^_~ hehe
 
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