rdm earring question?

which is better

  • loquacious earring

    Votes: 14 35.0%

  • magnetic

    Votes: 22 55.0%

  • other(plz list)

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
Calv/Godofdeath said:
Please slap yourself for making this idiotic comment... With all the + Enfeebling Magic you can silence HNMs or Gravity them and help out your team. Just 'cause you can't get it to stick in a few trys doesn't mean you can't. Hell, it took me 20 tries to silence Tiamat for like 20 secs which really helped my team from getting spammed with Firaga III. So please, never say Enfeebling + gear is useless on a HNM.
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I didnt ever say you cant have the spell stick ... please read what i say. All i say is enfeebling doesnt help much, especially +3. Whatever your skill, Suzzaku is hard to silence, but you can silence it with 309, which is not much.
 
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pchan said:
I didnt ever say you cant have the spell stick ... please read what i say. All i say is enfeebling doesnt help much, especially +3. Whatever your skill, Suzzaku is hard to silence, but you can silence it with 309, which is not much.
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Well, yeah, but with 330 you'll silence him more :P

Its pretty much the same with all stats. +1 doesn't do much difference, but +10 do :P
 
Loquacious is just an overpriced (beastcoin-wise) astral earring. Get the magnetic.
 
pchan said:
I have personnally experimented Loquacious. I am disappointed : fast-cast acts just like other fast-cast gear exept that it happens only occasionnally. With AF Hat and AF2 Body, a rdm casts all his spell after 45% spellcasting (instead of 65 ?). You expect to reduce it to 40% with loquacious but it is not the case : sometimes 40%, sometimes 45%.

I have not magnetic earring, but it sounds to be the best earring. For second earring it depends what your are doing. I use diabolos earring in dynamis.
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Are you sure this is the case? I am 99% sure Fast Cast is a sure thing.
 
Necrosis said:
Are you sure this is the case? I am 99% sure Fast Cast is a sure thing.
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Rostrum Pumps is random too

Loquacious is just an overpriced (beastcoin-wise) astral earring. Get the magnetic.
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well, I'd have to dissagree. its +25MP and Enhances "Fast Cast". Even if the Fast Cast is random, I'd still say its better then the astral Earring, as you won't do much with 5 more MP. Fast Cast though, as WHM, can save your tanks life. It also helps a lot on things that you fight kiting.

However, on RDM it won't help a lot, as you'd be better of using magnetic/static and enfeebling earring. Its still a nice Convert item.

On BLM, you'd probably be better of using Elemental Earring and Moldavite, or Moldavite and Phantom, or Moldavite and Magnetic, or Moldavite and Static.

It might be good for soloing as /NIN though, or even while casting utsu as NIN main.
 
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You have RDM leveled? I don't, and I know how Fast Cast works.

It's not random. It's a sure thing. Loquacious and Rostrums were found out to be smaller than AF1 and AF2 Fast Cast enhancements, about 1-2% i believe, whereas the AF is a straight 5%.
 
Necrosis said:
You have RDM leveled? I don't, and I know how Fast Cast works.

It's not random. It's a sure thing. Loquacious and Rostrums were found out to be smaller than AF1 and AF2 Fast Cast enhancements, about 1-2% i believe, whereas the AF is a straight 5%.
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Yes, fast cast TRAIT is a sure thing. I've never seen Rostrum Pumps kick in enough to rely on it, though. Example being Raise III constantly still being on a 60 sec timer, except for those few tiems when it gets down to 59-58 sec.

Last I checked, though, items were not a trait.

edit: Also, I haven't seen neither me nor Pchan ever static that Fast Cast TRAIT was random. Apparently you constantly have to bold things out for people to actually spot them.
 
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Uzor said:
Yes, fast cast TRAIT is a sure thing. I've never seen Rostrum Pumps kick in enough to rely on it, though. Example being Raise III constantly still being on a 60 sec timer, except for those few tiems when it gets down to 59-58 sec.

Last I checked, though, items were not a trait.

edit: Also, I haven't seen neither me nor Pchan ever static that Fast Cast TRAIT was random. Apparently you constantly have to bold things out for people to actually spot them.
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My point still stands, I wasn't talking just about the trait, I was referring to RDM AF1/AF2 and, loquacious/rostrums.

Fast Cast traits and enhancements are a sure thing, unlike, say, Conserve MP.
The reason you may never see Rostrums kick in is because the enhancement is so minute.
 
Necrosis said:
My point still stands, I wasn't talking just about the trait, I was referring to RDM AF1/AF2 and, loquacious/rostrums.

Fast Cast traits and enhancements are a sure thing, unlike, say, Conserve MP.
The reason you may never see Rostrums kick in is because the enhancement is so minute.
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No, AF1/AF2 is also a sure enhancement. The boots are not though, they seem to be a random 0-3% enhancement, which would explain the occasional 1 sec reduction on Raise III, and the (more often) no reduction.

It might still be 1-3, or 2-5 though, mine and Pchan's point still stands that its random.
 
I feel sorry for you if you believe everything posted on every online forum =/

Don't make me dig up the DRK thread on killingifrit where they argued about Sniper Ring. I stopped trusting anything anyone say on any forum after they actually wrote that "Sniper Rings are bad for DRK because of the -dark on it".

I've never seen Rostrum kick on on a constant basis ever.
 
Uzor said:
I feel sorry for you if you believe everything posted on every online forum =/

Don't make me dig up the DRK thread on killingifrit where they argued about Sniper Ring. I stopped trusting anything anyone say on any forum after they actually wrote that "Sniper Rings are bad for DRK because of the -dark on it".

I've never seen Rostrum kick on on a constant basis ever.
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I don't, but a few posts that determined a rough 1% Fast Cast reduction I tend to believe.

Doesn't make sense why the enhancements would be an on-and-off thing when the trait isn't on-and-off.

Differences that could account for the few second difference your experiencing would be minor equip changes, I believe various blessed gear give small haste%s.
 
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Necrosis said:
I don't, but a few posts that determined a rough 1% Fast Cast reduction I tend to believe.

Doesn't make sense why the enhancements would be an on-and-off thing when the trait isn't on-and-off.
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doesn't make any sense that you can carry 60 beds in your inventory either, and how exactly do you stack pies when you can't stack bottles of juice?

Hell, how come anything in the game is random? I say we make everything static! Let's make everything in the game on a 100% drop rate so that nothing is random. Great idea.

I'd say its most likely random for the same reason many other things are random. SE just doesn't like things to be set.

And I didn't use any haste during any of my tests. It usually messes up test results, so why use it? Besides, I don't like blessed. But that's completely unrelated to this topic (which Rostrum Boots are too).

Either way, Static Earring is very much worth it for the situations that its usefull in. And Magnetic Earring is usefull for pretty much any situation, so I still say stick with them both :P
 
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Uzor said:
doesn't make any sense that you can carry 60 beds in your inventory either, and how exactly do you stack pies when you can't stack bottles of juice?

Hell, how come anything in the game is random? I say we make everything static! Let's make everything in the game on a 100% drop rate so that nothing is random. Great idea.

I'd say its most likely random for the same reason many other things are random. SE just doesn't like things to be set.
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That is irrelevant.
Fast Cast Trait - Static
AF - Static
Loquacious/Rostrums - random?
Erm..

Shut me up. Go test it again D:
 
Necrosis said:
That is irrelevant.
Fast Cast Trait - Static
AF - Static
Loquacious/Rostrums - random?
Erm..
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And why is it so hard to believe anything in this game can be random? You didn't answer me that question yet.

And don't come with a "static - static - random" argument as it proves nothing.

besides, their "tests" are not really good. They don't post how many tests they did, for all we know they can have made 1 test and concluded that its always the same.

Besides, 1% can't be right any way you look at it. 60x0.98=59.4, and the game have a bad habit of rounding everything up. So their results fail already in the first of those threads.

60x0.98=58.8, meaning 59 sec recast.

60x0.97= 58.2, once again, game rounds it up. Even if it didn't round up, it would be 58, which is the result I occasionally see, but not very often.

So in conclusion, even with their tests, the effect can still be random from 0-3% and all the tests would still be correct. To get good tests, you need to cast a spell with more then 100 sec recast, and I can't think of any spells with that long a recast unless you use elegy+slow in Ballista, or maybe super weakened in Dynamis.

Even then, the 58 recast can be from lag. A 60 sec recast can't though, as I can't see how lag adds 1 sec to the recast time...

In conclusion, Rostrum Pumps can either have 1-3% randomly, or 0-3% randomly, or even 1-2% randomly, without the test results changing much.
 
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Recasts (at least as far as /recast goes) are rounded down actually (after running them through a meat grinder turning them into a fraction of 256 but let's not get into that). Slap on 1% Haste (yes, I know, it's haste and not fast cast) and 60 sec recast turns into 59 sec recast.

Gonna play with my own Rostrum Pumps and see what I come up with.
 
well my current earring are

r ear: astral earring
l ear: moldva earring

mp is not really a issue i own both zenith hands, and legs; Im just kinda searching to see what others think about these earrings and others because to me it just seems neither the magnetic or loquacious scream must have at first sight. Exactly how much dmg does the static earring do? Wish SE whould make some way that you can trade earrings/ring maybe having the mission agian I mean DM and A. night are not easy. Ya ive heard the romors on allakazam about how the loquacious was not as good, If it as bad as people saying maybe not worth spending 75 coins on; coins now and days going for like 120k a coin. yikes! As for elemental resist I normallly wear chasable when casting (yes i know the hippy body) Though i still get resisted some times im quite please with results.
 
Coins used to be more like 300k or so a coin, now they're more like 100k per, Loquacious Earring effectively costs *less* nowadays so that's hardly worth complaining about.

Magnetic Earring's stats scream out "must have" more than Loquacious Earring's, but wearing one in each ear is a pretty good idea too. Why not just get both and then experiment with wearing one, wearing the other, wearing both together, and seeing what results you like best?
 
I do magnetic on ear1, and loquacious/moldywhenIhaveroom on ear2.

I also have about 1.1k initial MP under normal circumstances (for hastes/refreshes/buffs before engaging), though that gets cut to a little under 1k when I swap in full enfeebling gear.

But yeah, use both earrings. And enfeebling gear is definitely NOT overrated one bit. Essential to landing debuffs on many NMs.
 
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