REal World Wake up call.

Shyrra said:
<3 Damita

A guy I know who's been with IBM for 4 years, graduated as an Industrial Engineer from NCSU with a 2.9 and is now making over $75k/year. He co-oped for 2 summers at IBM too. Just goes to show ya, GPA isn't everything!
Yeah, those stories are still there.

It's just getting harder. I hate the whole globalization thing because it's really just so unfair.

But ya Shyrra touching on an important point... Your co-op or internship can be gold if you get the right contacts. I know one of my nublets got the job because he interned with a friend of mine in Atlanta and got the recommendation from him. So, when I saw the recommendation letter, I just called up my bud and knew everything about the kid before he even stepped through the door.

It's also great for securing a job quickly because a proven resource is so much better than gambling on some random person.
 
Damita said:
Yeah, those stories are still there.

It's just getting harder. I hate the whole globalization thing because it's really just so unfair.

But ya Shyrra touching on an important point... Your co-op or internship can be gold if you get the right contacts. I know one of my nublets got the job because he interned with a friend of mine in Atlanta and got the recommendation from him. So, when I saw the recommendation letter, I just called up my bud and knew everything about the kid before he even stepped through the door.

It's also great for securing a job quickly because a proven resource is so much better than gambling on some random person.

Aye, I really think no matter what your field and who your employer, your internship/co-op, and maybe even your actual job interview are far more important than a few fractions of a point of GPA. Social skills, personality, and other intangibles are really the most important factors, once you've established your competence and ability to learn.
 
Claudhert said:
I dont know mabye im Just Scared im gonna fuck up my life and have to come crawling back to my family for help.... and i dont want that.

i may have posted this in the wrong forum.. if so move it to the appropriate one


Know how you mean i got 2 peices of course work to give in by friday and if not done i will get kicked out of college. One i have finished other is a 500 word essay and god forbid i get it done i can just about do 1 page let alone 4 ;_;
 
delsus said:
Know how you mean i got 2 peices of course work to give in by friday and if not done i will get kicked out of college. One i have finished other is a 500 word essay and god forbid i get it done i can just about do 1 page let alone 4 ;_;

I'm not sure what all this gibberish is... but a 500 word essay is short as hell... lol...
 
It's tough either way, but quite honestly you have to view GPA as exactly what it reflects: Dedication, Hard Work, Dilligence, etc. A 2.5 GPA tells me that you spent too much time fucking around and wouldn't get in there and handle your responsibilities to your fullest capability. Would I want to hire someone who would half ass something, whether he wants to do it or not? Hell no. And if you didn't half ass it, you tried hard and still only got a 2.5GPA, I'd say that you weren't as adept as others out there. That would lower you quality to me if I was in the position of hiring you. That GPA is a gauge of those two scenarios. Co-op and internship helps because that's on site training... but simple fact is, employer's aren't looking for the quick fix in a position. They're looking for that long term employee, and that employee needs to be busting his/her ass to climb the corporate latter. I feel that a persons two strongest characteristics when being considered for employment is their will and their intelligence. If they have the will to learn, work, and strive to be greater... Well, that's the person I want to work with, work for me, and have others feed off of. A 2.5 GPA tells me that person didn't have the will power to do what they had to do, not what they wanted to do, to work for a better future. For themselves, or future families. That's my perspective from the business side of the world.

Edit: I apologize if this seems rude, arrogant or anything like that. That's just the way I see it from the business angle that I work.
 
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just think of all the hours you spent on the game that could have prevented this thread in the first place, lol. now you got to worry for no reason. learn a lesson boys n girls.
 
I had a 2.9 when I graduated and had a 1.7 at the end of my sophomore year(good going binge drinking). So I had the same realization as the OP just after my sophomore year. Even though I had worked full time and had 2 years real world experience in software development I still got turned away from interviews due to GPA alone. Alot of large organizations have GPA restrictions on hiring new grads. I would agree to a point with the practical experience> GPA, but if you have a GPA that is low, in my experience, most companies wont give you a second look.

Thankfully I have been out of school long enough and have enough experience I wont have to deal with the GPA issue again.
 
FWIW, and I'm not in CS or IT, but I do work at a major university in the Cambridge, MA area in the Life Sciences and I can honestly say that nobody ever asked me (or anyone else I know) about GPA. When I've interviewed people looking for a position in our department, work experience, the ability to understand what I'm talking about, and being mentally agile have mattered way more than anything else. Then again, we're not in the habit of hiring people for their first job out of school.

First jobs suck. I'm not talking about working retail in high school or something like that, I'm talking about your first job after some kind of real training. It goes with the territory. You get that first job, you get shit pay for a couple of years, you find a new job and things get better.

This is, of course, assuming you absorb the important things about what you're there for. If you show up to work and you lack the basic knowledge about how to do your job, then you wasted your time at school. It's possible, like you pointed out, to get good grades in your primary field of study and get mediocre to lousy grades in other things and still turn out okay.

If you take some other job unrelated to your major just to pay the bills, though, don't ever stop looking for something more related to what you want to do. Once you lose the job search momentum, it's hard to get it back. Don't get comfortable in a crap job, basically.
 
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