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For any of those people getting ready to or thinking about retrieving the Astral Candescence, take note. I just got done with an Alliance that spent 5 hours slamming our dead bodies against the 3 Mamool Ja NMs, killing the BLM one, only to have it RESPAWN for the next group we sent in. All reports show that the NMs will not respawn may be incorrect.

The BLM cannot be slept. The other two (THF NIN) can. The BLM cannot be silence. And if any 6-man party can accomplish killing all 3 without wiping, I'll ceremoniously crap myself.

~Maly, long time reader, first time poster.
 
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A first time poster who brings the promise of cerimonis defication. Give yourself some credi, and accept this pat on the back from me. Well done!
 
The key to beating this BC seems to be neutralizing Groundblast from the BLM. Its a really powerful AOE that goes through and wipes shadows for about 710 DMG. The BLM boss spammed this a total of 3 times in about 1 minute.

Perhaps its activated by something, I can't say for sure. IIRC one of the beastman nms does a certain ws on reaction to spells. Start up time is about 2~3 seconds, so seems stunable. We were trying to ws stun spells and ended up eating ground burst.

As for the nin and the thf, we didn't try to sleep it since the wiki says that the other two mobs are not sleepable, but we had a thf aggro it and a rdm follow him around to cure bomb him. If it wasn't for groundblast completely taking us by suprise, we probably would've had a better chance on taking at least one of the mobs down.
 
The thief and ninja are sleepable if you use ES+sleepga, but the BLM will not sleep >_>. I think the first thing is to bring all 3 NMs to 33% since they wont recover past that. Then bring in a very powerful pt and kill all 1 by 1 by reraising. It looks very hard to do, since thf and nin dont seem easier than BLM lol. Our pt killed the blm with 1 reraise, we had smnx2 sam drk blm whm, and no tank since they are useless.


Also a big thanks to the NA community for not moving their ass to get this back. Once again JP will do the job and NA will stay passive. I still can't
believe that we were the only allaince there for 5 hours after they steal the candy, while it was NA prime. Have fun having others play the game for you.
 
We lost again? ;/
 
mdkuser said:
The thief and ninja are sleepable if you use ES+sleepga, but the BLM will not sleep >_>. I think the first thing is to bring all 3 NMs to 33% since they wont recover past that. Then bring in a very powerful pt and kill all 1 by 1 by reraising. It looks very hard to do, since thf and nin dont seem easier than BLM lol. Our pt killed the blm with 1 reraise, we had smnx2 sam drk blm whm, and no tank since they are useless.


Also a big thanks to the NA community for not moving their ass to get this back. Once again JP will do the job and NA will stay passive. I still can't
believe that we were the only allaince there for 5 hours after they steal the candy, while it was NA prime. Have fun having others play the game for you.

You do realize last night was like, the BIG Dynamis night, so half the server's end game players were in Dynamis? It was also Friday night, so many people were out, and those in Dynamis probably went out after. God forbid.
 
Cythe said:
You do realize last night was like, the BIG Dynamis night, so half the server's end game players were in Dynamis? It was also Friday night, so many people were out, and those in Dynamis probably went out after. God forbid.
getting the astral candycane is more important than getting wasted and making sweet love! :rtfm:
 
Uzor said:
getting the astral candycane is more important than getting wasted and making sweet love! :rtfm:

pfft, hardcore gamers can do all 3 at once D: I think.. or something like that.. *shrugs*
 
Uzor said:
getting the astral candycane is more important than getting wasted and making sweet love! :rtfm:

HAHAHAHAHAHA.
That's funny, but I disagree.
 
mdkuser said:
Also a big thanks to the NA community for not moving their ass to get this back. Once again JP will do the job and NA will stay passive. I still can't
believe that we were the only allaince there for 5 hours after they steal the candy, while it was NA prime. Have fun having others play the game for you.

Yeah, sorta disappointing. On the other hand, the BC is really time consuming. There were JP two or three parties that gave it a shot while we were healing but no NAs.
 
Elemmire said:
pfft, hardcore gamers can do all 3 at once D: I think.. or something like that.. *shrugs*

well, could always take her home, turn on the game, and just go... like in Swordfish <.<;
 
mdkuser said:
Also a big thanks to the NA community for not moving their ass to get this back. Once again JP will do the job and NA will stay passive. I still can't
believe that we were the only allaince there for 5 hours after they steal the candy, while it was NA prime. Have fun having others play the game for you.


Yeah, sorry, but the method required to just enter the BC is retarded enough. Getting people to do it would be less effective than just shooting yourself in the foot. The outcomes the same, but far less time consuming. Not to mention SE designed it so that players have to throw time and EXP away at it, just so some someone else can win it. Thats why people don't want do it, while there reward is universal for everyone, theres no glory in losing.

You act like 2-3 Japanese groups is the entire Japanese playerbase as well. Don't forget that they outnumber us on the server, I'd say both sides were equally represented. As Well, Prime time NA Friday is JP Saturday Morning. Not much difference. Blatant JP Fanboyism quoted.

Also potential irony as he most likely has used guides for quests/missions completion and strategy. I bet you have fun having others play the game for you.
 
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Yeah.

NAs.

Represent.



I know for a fact atleast 3 UK players tried to recover the AC repeatedly when it was taken, and were among the first to attempt it last night.
 
In the end, I think we can all agree that SE is the problem here. I wouldnt be suprised if nobody every bothered getting the AC back. Why? Cause its too much of a pain in the ass....seriously. SE needs to reevaluate the reward system for the whole Besieged stuffs.
 
Brin said:
In the end, I think we can all agree that SE is the problem here. I wouldnt be suprised if nobody every bothered getting the AC back. Why? Cause its too much of a pain in the ass....seriously. SE needs to reevaluate the reward system for the whole Besieged stuffs.

Where COP seems to have failed with rewards and creating "fun" areas, TOAU seems to be having problems with rewards. Why is it so hard for SE to make an update as rewarding as Zilart is? And for that matter, why are they adjusting Zilart after its been around for so long, but won't adjust COP? The hell are they thinking...
 
About the NMs not being sleepable, have you ONLY used sleep? Are we forgetting that BLU and BRD have light based sleep spells? Or am I just making an ass out of myself right now?
 
Blaine said:
About the NMs not being sleepable, have you ONLY used sleep? Are we forgetting that BLU and BRD have light based sleep spells? Or am I just making an ass out of myself right now?

Nah, we had two Bards out there, I know they tried Lullaby. Sleepga wouldn't stick anyway without ES. I don't know if the Blue Mage tried anything, didn't pay attention. I was a bit too busy dying. /grin
 
Its hard getting people to go and finding the right jobs todo the bc is even harder. The group I was in had 2 whm, 1 smn, and me the rdm (and a blu but didnt have a chance togo in, atleast before I left). We ended up trying 1 whm all melee 1st go, then 1 whm 1 rdm 2 war/nin 1 thf and a mnk. Just like the jp pts ahead of us, wiped everytime.
 
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