RMT Dynamis

Peregrine said:
Then I'm going to assume that you don't know what the word logic means, and you're just throwing words around to act like you have an argument in hopes that something will sound like it's flying. Reasoning, not randomness. Thought, not schizophrenia. What does working in the day have to do with anything? Trolling qcdn has nothing to do with people not posting about messing with RMT. You're not using logic. You're using the word perhaps. Perhaps they're bought accounts. Perhaps they're FBI agents stinging a panda smuggling operation run by RMT videogamers. Perhaps RMT stole their children, and the only way to get them back is to help them out in dyn. Or you're right. You got me. Perhaps they work. Oh no, I am undone!

I am in the same ls as a couple of people on that list and vaguely remember them getting on ls the night this happened and laughing and joking about screwing with the RMT. I was half asleep and signing off at the time so I didn't get details but I remember the gist.

So we have a vaguely-remembered, half-asleep, no-details gist. PERHAPS they are ashamed to tell their friend that they didn't do any messing. That they truly were just bored and went along?

Just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts. They went in with RMT. They came out with RMT. And it's as if nothing out of the ordinary went on in between. You think they're good people. Great. Great people can go into a dyn out of boredom and let RMT keep the coins. You don't know. You can barely remember what may have been a false version anyway. Of course they're going to say "heheh yeah we messed with rmt."

When by messed they mean lol'd a little but nothing more.

Odds are that they went in out of boredom, and RMT got no trouble from them. I'm sorry. That's the evidence here until you remember more clearly.
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Who says they caused trouble? Maybe they went in and tried to ninja lot? Still doesn't make what they did helpful to RMT in the slightest.

Your "logic" only makes sense if you automatically assume the worst in people. Which, from what I've seen in your posts is exactly what you do. I didn't say that it's logical to assume they went in there and caused massive RMT death and ruined their run. I said it's logical to assume they didn't go in there to help the RMT in exchange for easy to obtain gear. It's far more logical to assume they were bored and went to try and ninja lot.

The reference I made to people not trolling qcdn or that they may be at work is in response to your assumption of guilt because they haven't defended themselves on this thread. There are a lot of players that don't check qcdn everyday or at all. How is assuming they haven't posted on this thread or about RMT in general because they don't use qcdn excessively illogical?
 
eiteen said:
couldnt have put it better myself...

i have known knocker for a long time, and he is definately not RMT... why he was in RMT dynamis is beyond me... probably there to cause havoc...
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yeah Knocker and I were talking in tells, he pretty much wanted to do what everyone else wanted to do. Screw RMT and steal theyre gil. With the amount of coins RMT made in the end they lost over 800k on buying the glass. I would have to say it hurt them some.
 
Nyet said:
I dont understand why people need to explain their actions so much when you people are far from legit judges.
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You do Dynamis with RMT, you're God damn right you better explain it...legit judges or not...hell going in with hackers, cheaters, w/e so you can get shit is bullshit. The RMT were shouting in Whitegate forever to recruit...I do believe, some answered the call for free ride to AF...others answered it to fuck with the rmt. If you can't respond to defend yourself...thats on you, we'll see it as we see it...some people will suck rmt dick for a chance at free shit.
 
Charcoip said:
they didnt know where to get glass eventually they figured it out though.
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Not bloody likely. Perhaps that's what the unassuming NA force giggled and told themselves in the one-sided confusion, but it sounds like from start to finish, RMT ran that dyn flawlessly. RMT is not stupid. If what you say is true, they herded you all like cattle.

If your best attempt at messing with them ended up giving them everything they wanted, do you really believe that they didn't know where to get the glass? Or is that the only way the owned NA players could come away from it with any resemblance of victory?

Don't run with RMT. Chances are they will beat you. Lesson learned. Next time, why don't you stay in that dyn and show some GMs that impressive lotting of theirs instead of considering yourself a failure just because you can't go in there and get something from it?
 
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sirivalin said:
You do Dynamis with RMT, you're God damn right you better explain it...legit judges or not...hell going in with hackers, cheaters, w/e so you can get shit is bullshit. The RMT were shouting in Whitegate forever to recruit...I do believe, some answered the call for free ride to AF...others answered it to fuck with the rmt. If you can't respond to defend yourself...thats on you, we'll see it as we see it...some people will suck rmt dick for a chance at free shit.
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Is everyone ignoring my posts?
 
Peregrine said:
Not bloody likely. Perhaps that's what the unassuming NA force giggled and told themselves in the one-sided confusion, but it sounds like from start to finish, RMT ran that dyn flawlessly. RMT is not stupid. If what you say is true, they herded you all like cattle.

If your best attempt at messing with them ended up giving them everything they wanted, do you really believe that they didn't know where to get the glass? Or is that the only way the owned NA players could come away from it with any resemblance of victory?
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Can you say that differently? I honestly have no idea what you just said.
 
Peregrine said:
but it sounds like from start to finish, RMT ran that dyn flawlessly. RMT is not stupid. If what you say is true, they herded you all like cattle.
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I'm sorry, where was the part where it sounded like RMT ran it flawlessly?
 
Charcoip said:
Is everyone ignoring my posts?
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I responded to a specific post...hence my "<specific post here>" So don't quote me on something not directed at you Jujutsu...........
 
Kerowynn said:
Who says they caused trouble? Maybe they went in and tried to ninja lot?
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Can you not read, and do you honestly think RMT did not expect that?
 
Kerowynn said:
I'm sorry, where was the part where it sounded like RMT ran it flawlessly?
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Your friends accomplished none of their objectives. They toiled like slaves, and in the end gained nothing. RMT had them under control. RMT disaster dynes are nothing unique. They happen every week. They look to be losing gil on dyn every week. They don't get a single extension. They don't get a single win. They look *terrible*.

They just don't look any more terrible with NA gadflies trying to mess with them in their runs, which is why they invite you. Yes. Their run sounds like it went off flawlessly for a RMT run. Their targets lended them strength and got nothing in return. No matter how badly they did (because they always do badly), they did better because your buddies did more help than hurt. Why? Because the RMT knew that they were untouchable from the start.

The NA players' arrogance and cockiness was their undoing. RMT was a beastmaster that night, and they were mere sheep.
 
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Peregrine said:
Can you not read, and do you honestly think RMT did not expect that?
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What part am I not reading? Please repost for emphasis. I don't recall ever saying they went in there and MPK'd all the RMT or ninja-lotted all of their gear. I just said they probably went in there to try to screw the RMT out of gear and coins and that they didn't go to try to be helpful to the RMT.

Umm no, I'm sure the RMT did expect it. Please show where I said or insinuated they didn't. I haven't posted a single thing about how successful the people that went in to try to screw the RMT were. I just said that's probably what they intended to do.

I've posted entirely about what their intentions likely were, not how things actually went. I thought that was pretty obvious.
 
Peregrine said:
Your friends accomplished none of their objectives. They toiled like slaves, and in the end gained nothing. RMT had them under control. RMT disaster dynes are nothing unique. They happen every week. They look to be losing gil on dyn every week. They don't get a single extension. They don't get a single win. They look *terrible*.

They just don't look any more terrible with NA gadflies trying to mess with them in their runs, which is why they invite you. Yes. Their run sounds like it went off flawlessly for a RMT run. Their targets lended them strength and got nothing in return. No matter how badly they did (because they always do badly), they did better because your buddies did more help than hurt. Why? Because the RMT knew that they were untouchable from the start.

The NA players' arrogance and cockiness was their undoing. RMT was a beastmaster that night, and they were mere sheep.
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I believe that according to someone that was there, the RMT actually lost gil that night. How is that successful? How do you know how much the nonRMT people helped? I'm sorry, did I miss there part where you were there?

Edit: I also never said that they were successful, I only spoke of likely intentions. Big difference.
 
Charcoip said:
Can you say that differently? I honestly have no idea what you just said.
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Your statement that you almost succeeded in stealing the one million gil entry fee because "they didn't know where to get the glass" is unlikely to be true, given that RMT utterly dominated and tricked the NA players into fighting for something they had no chance of receiving. RMT has been doing dynamis terribly for about as long as I have been doing it legitimately. They know what to do with the glass. They know what to do with the zone. They even know what to do with you.

The sad truth is that there was almost no way you could have messed with them. That's why they invited you.
 
Kerowynn said:
I believe that according to someone that was there, the RMT actually lost gil that night. How is that successful? How do you know how much the nonRMT people helped? I'm sorry, did I miss there part where you were there?
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Again, you do not read. They always lose gil. They always have whether NA is invited or not. If they did one point of damage to help the RMT, they helped. They did no damage to the RMT. They did damage to the mobs. They helped.

You missed the part where I know almost everything there is to know about the state of dynamis on quetza. The good, the bad, and the illegal.
 
Peregrine said:
The NA players' arrogance and cockiness was their undoing. RMT was a beastmaster that night, and they were mere sheep.
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The pure drama in this sentence deserved to be quoted again. Although I'm unsure of why NA is refrerred to in plural but RMT is referred to in singular. Well, either way it still sounds like something you'd hear in narrative at the end of a bad B movie lol.
 
Peregrine said:
Again, you do not read. They always lose gil. They always have whether NA is invited or not. If they did one point of damage to help the RMT, they helped. They did no damage to the RMT. They did damage to the mobs. They helped.

You missed the part where I know almost everything there is to know about the state of dynamis on quetza. The good, the bad, and the illegal.
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Yeah as far as I'm concerned this thread isn't about dynamis and the amount you do or do not know about it is irrelevant. It's about whether or not a group of players intended to help out or steal from RMT.
 
I don't know what to tell you, Ben. I was bored out of my mind, I wanted pants, and they weren't showing Scrubs on Comedy Central.
 
It's not what you do or don't know, it's what you intend? What an easy goal to achieve.

Darlin I intend to have RMT banned from the game whenever I get the option and see the opportunity, along with any fleetooling, hacking git I can get my eyes, ears, and hands on. The difference? You have to know something to hope to be successful at it. I would have had GM's pre-called on multiple PC's to watch that entire run instead of running around like a little pissant trying to pick ONE COINS off.

These are NOT morons who don't even know where the glass is. Your friends, then, are at best ignorant.

Again, lesson learned.
 
Legomyeggo said:
I don't know what to tell you, Ben. I was bored out of my mind, I wanted pants, and they weren't showing Scrubs on Comedy Central.
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That's fine. You took your shot. Maybe you learned something, maybe not.
 
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