RMT Dynamis

Garvin said:
I have a question for you. How is it exactly that the players were outsmarted? You're assuming that they were actually helping the RMT do the dynamis, an assumption that is almost certainly faulty.

If neither side benefitted from what happened, how could either side get "owned"?

if they didn't need them in some way then why the invite? And why no evidence from the run either prove cheating or RMT activities. If it did nothing more than waste their time the players still lose. And who said the RMT didn't benefit? They just made sure there was nothing the players could do to stop them. And even if getting legit players simply made their run appear more legit to GMs they still win because how can we complain that they're running dynamis when we go in with them? And clearly, some players went with the idea that items they wanted might drop and they could take them. That was clearly not the case.

What's next? Camping NMs with RMT? I understand if you just want to defend the players that went. I'm not saying they were bad or that their intentions were to support RMT activities. I'm saying that we as a community need to wake up and come up with real solutions.
 
Zealot X said:
if they didn't need them in some way then why the invite? And why no evidence from the run either prove cheating or RMT activities. If it did nothing more than waste their time the players still lose. And who said the RMT didn't benefit? They just made sure there was nothing the players could do to stop them. And even if getting legit players simply made their run appear more legit to GMs they still win because how can we complain that they're running dynamis when we go in with them? And clearly, some players went with the idea that items they wanted might drop and they could take them. That was clearly not the case.

What's next? Camping NMs with RMT? I understand if you just want to defend the players that went. I'm not saying they were bad or that their intentions were to support RMT activities. I'm saying that we as a community need to wake up and come up with real solutions.

I know that at least some of the players that went tried to catch the RMT doing something they could call a GM for. At least they were making the effort.
 
Zealot X said:
if they didn't need them in some way then why the invite?
In the hopes that the players would go along with it and fight things. There IS no other reason. There is NOTHING else these people would be invited.


Zealot X said:
What's next? Camping NMs with RMT?
If there were some way to force the RMT into a group and keep them from just walking off with the item or NM, you bet I'd "camp" NMs with them. And by camp I mean "sit there and let them kill it if they claim it over me, then try to take the item." Unfortunately that's something that only works in dynamis.

Zealot X said:
I'm saying that we as a community need to wake up and come up with real solutions.
We as a community do not get to make the real solutions. The GMs, developers, and task force are the ones who do that. All we as players can do is try to make RMT miserable, delaying them in any way possible. I'd say this falls under that quite well.
 
HA!! first night with an account to this cestpool of a site and I already see my name somewhere. Some were mentioning that not many of the people that were so called legit players were speaking up on here.... that's b/c we don't troll this site 24/7 looking for some sort of source of drama to get our jollies off for the evening. That being said I will let you know why I went, it was for 3 reason:
1)bored as hell around the holidays with all my IRL friends gone.
2)figured what the hell, I can steal a couple coins on THF
3)most importantly knew it was RMT so I wanted to go and find a reason to call a GM on them.

I'll have you know I accomplished all of my goals. It didn't take very long of being there to see that they were using lot hax. Whoever back there mentioned that they are not stupid and know what to do in dynamis ROFL yeah right you should have been there. It is impossible for one guy to deal with the amount of stones that need nuked and mobs that need slept by his 15 chars with just his 2 human hands. It was a good laugh and I dropped my hourglass with 1 coin and called a GM on them. At least I took some sort of active roll in trying to do something about RMT instead of sitting at my comp on some lame forum talking like old men at the coffee shop "Well paw those RMT sure do suck and I hate them a lot" GTFO man get active in your pursuit to fuck with RMT instead of just sitting here saying how dirty anyone that steps within' 10 feet of them is.

Thanks to Kero for sticking up for me on here a bit, but some of these losers aren't worth your time, I know they certainly aren't worth mine. This will be the only post by me for this section b/c I'm not getting into some sort of pissing contest with some of the filth, mainly 1 in particular that can somehow through his all knowing understanding of this game, saw exactly what happened without ever even having to be there. HAHA makes me laugh.
 
nobody cares about you or what you do hope this helps
 
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