Rose Strap

[Duffman]

that is all.









ok more... I don't have sea so I've been using Hachiman Kote and Shinimusha Haidate to attain 6hit for my TP gear. For WS, I popped in Pallas Br. and Shura Haidate.

Now I can put on Shura fulltime or use Enkidu's subligar on TP. The defense on shinimushas was poor but I managed. I've tried the strap in Einherjar and liked it. I have yet to get into campaign with it. I don't know if +20 will be noticable or not. Either it's 7,6,5hit. The inbetween stuff is hard to peg; for me.

Stuff is situational: I miss not using Platinum+1 but again... situational. I even use Axe Grip when I want to get as much STR+ as possible. This rose grip is nice to rotate in to my collection.

Oh and I am eyeballing that bull necklace 25+ str in campaign.

 

[Wakmidget1]

ok more... I don't have sea so I've been using Hachiman Kote and Shinimusha Haidate to attain 6hit for my TP gear. For WS, I popped in Pallas Br. and Shura Haidate.

You WS is part of your 6-hit, now I am not a SAM, but iirc Y/G/K are all 1-hit WS's? If your TP return on you WS's doesn't match your TP/swing you don't have a 6-Hit.

You get to 100 in 6 hits, that's fine, but you still need to maintain it. Which is 5 hits + WS.

 

[Duffman]

That confuses me. I think I need to take some more time to reread that and comprehend it. I don't get into all the math but I have the appropriate TP+ to equal the 6. I counted the swings and get 100 at 6. When I WS, it all shifts to STR+ but I have my 100 from 6 swings. Then I get about 15 post WS.

OH... maybe that's it? For subsequent WSs? From a dead 0 to at least 100, I get it in 6 hits. What am I missing on that?

again I may have to reread what you said a few times.

 

[Duffman]

reread... I see what you said.

0-100 6hit

ws = 1 hit or my 7th but really the 1st in the next 6





so 0-100 in 6

ws

15tp + 5 hits and if I'm 98 or something then it's not technically 6hit.


I'll pay attention post WS and see what it happening. I may or may not be on it yet. I haven't been counting the WS as a hit; even though it is.

 

[mdkuser]

Pro tip if you want to know if you have a 6-hit:

Go outside a city and kill 5 mandy in TP gear and one in WS gear. If you get more than 100 then its a 6 hit.

If you want to know how much TP you get in TP gear or in WS gear, kill 10 level -1 mobs in TP gear and check your tp. If you have 173 tp it means you get 17.3 TP/hit, for example.

Be sure the mobs dont hit you, it can happen and fuck the TP (/nin or seigan).

 

[Wakmidget1]

Pro tip if you want to know if you have a 6-hit:

Go outside a city and kill 5 mandy in TP gear and one in WS gear. If you get more than 100 then its a 6 hit.

If you want to know how much TP you get in TP gear or in WS gear, kill 10 level -1 mobs in TP gear and check your tp. If you have 173 tp it means you get 17.3 TP/hit, for example.

Be sure the mobs dont hit you, it can happen and fuck the TP (/nin or seigan).

Or you can just go to a Campaign battle under beastmen control and engage a fortification w/o the Campaign icon above your head.

A good one for this test is Garliage Citadel since there's a fortification that actually has no aggro if you attack it from behind.

 

[Duffman]

Those tests make a lot of sense and it's easy math.

 

[mdkuser]

Or you can just go to a Campaign battle under beastmen control and engage a fortification w/o the Campaign icon above your head.

A good one for this test is Garliage Citadel since there's a fortification that actually has no aggro if you attack it from behind.

why would you do thatinstead of exiting windy and kill 6 mandies >.>

 

[Sketchzter]

Not sure if you do Duffman, but you also basically need 5/5 Store-TP merits to successfully achieve 6-hit setup. You can get away with 3/5 Store-TP merits in certain set ups, but its not really recommended since you have to basically WS in more storeTP gear than being able to WS in STR+ gear.

From the looks of it though, you said you get to 100TP in your initial 6 swings, but then get 90-something after your first WS and the 5 following swings. Which basically means you don't have enough StoreTP in your WSset. That, or you don't have enough StoreTP merits.

 

[Schon]

with 5/5 sTP merits you need to average 11 sTP in gear per hit (including WS) to maintain a 6 hit build. Using the rose strap in campaign, its easy to make a 5 hit build with a combination of shinimusha and hachiman gear, but you'll likely be sacrificing ACC, STR or haste. Usually I dont bother to try for a campaign 5-hit, but use the extra TP as /dnc for curing/debuffing myself and STILL able to maintain a 6-hit.