Here is the basics on it. When you enter there are 4 kings (all enemies are cardians), pld (sword), whm, blm (clubs), and rdm(coin) (not neccsarily in that order). You should be able to figure out which is which from the name. They will not aggro or attack until you hit one just like Maat. The first king you hit is the one that stays, the other three disappear. After the other 3 kings disappear, 2 queens shows up which are weaker versions of the kings, 1 blm and 1 whm (these are always the same for all kings). You can gravity them, can't sleep, very hard to silence. All of them have their jobs 2hour. All kings have pretty high evasion, queens are moderatly easy to hit in comparison.
Info about the types:
Pld: Hits the hardest out of all, extremely high accu. Nin tank will be hard pressed to dodge any attacks. We did not try with double mambo though from brd. He cures himself a lot and buffs himself. He was actually one of the more beatable types, although we still lost. His 2hour is pretty tame compared to the others. Just kite with gravity while its up.
Rdm: This guy is the devil incarnate. Hits almost as hard as the pld, hits faster, just as high of accu, spams sleep, nukes, silence, paralyze. He will tear a nin tank to pieces in under 30 secs. Do not waste your time trying this one. Chainspells 2hour will wipe you no matter what.
Whm: Hits pretty weak compared to the others. Only casts divine nukes, banishga 3, banish 3, holy, dia2 (maybe 3), protect, shell. Problem is his 2hour is bene. He used it at 30% against us and recored 6.5k hp (meaning king whm has around 10k hp) in addition to healing the queens.. He will also cure 5 spam the queens if they are in range and hurt. He is the most survivable, but slowest to kill.
Blm: Hits weaker like the whm, still high accu. Spams AoE nukes and sleepga2. He dies pretty fast in comparison to the others, but it is very hard to survive that long against his aoes. He also likes ancient magic which is very good if you have a blink tank and melees. Problem is if the whm queen starts healing him, you can't win. Will not melee you unless you run out of range while he's casting on you, you manage to silence him, or you melee him.
Party Strats and setup
Tank: Pld can not tank these. They hit too hard, too high of accu. We only used nin, but war/nin might be better given nin will be hard pressed to evade their attacks so the extra def could help.
DD: All melees need /nin. These things hit way too hard if they pull hate. We did this with 2 rng/nin pre rng nerf. This let them stand outside aoe ranged when fighting the mage types which helped a lot. After a couple loses, we made sure the tank and rngs stayed as far apart as possible so no more than 1 could be hit by sleepga2 or aoe nukes. Post rng nerf you are welcome to try melees for equal damage output, but you will have problems with fighting blm queen (king too if you choose that) and whm to a lesser extent.
Our party setup was nin/war, rng/nin, rng/nin, rdm/nin, rdm/blm, whm/blm. We would have gone with rdm/nin on both, but one didn't have it. Our attempt was to have the rdm/nins gravity kite 2 of the enemies while the other 4 killed 1. We found king to be most resistent to gravity, but he takes the longest to kill. So its either have 1 rdm/nin have a hard, but short time kiting the king while you kill a queen or let both kite the two queens for a long time while you kill the king first. After one is dead, we had both rdms team up to kite the other one because by that point they were becoming resistent to gravity.
One fight Neophytal (rdm/nin) managed a neat trick of getting both queens to himself, but not meleeing. He took them to the far end and let them cast on him while he stood still, but they did not melee. So /nin asorbed most of the nukes and he used his cures for the occasional aoe nuke. Poison potions could work against the blms sleepga2 to help with that, but that means no stoneskin then, up to you. He was able to do this for a good 10 mins without problems, but we wiped against the blm king (other rdm had died trying to kite).
So I think if you could pull the king to the far end (easier than pulling the two queens down there and having them melee) and let a rdm/nin eat all the nukes from queens, you would have a good chance of doing this. I would recommend killing the blm queen 2nd and making sure to keep him away from the whm queen (else he will be cured). Once the only thing left is the whm queen, it is an easy fight. Hardest part will be having the rdm/nin get hate on the two queens so they stay put at the start of the fight. Possibly have the rdm/nin attack the king at the start of the fight so the queens aggro him and then have the tank voke the king down to the far end (near the entrance circle). It is key you don't pull hate off the kiters or rdm/nin at the start. By keeping them far apart (40m or more, 50m is farthest you can see enemies) you can easily avoid pulling hate off each other.
I really do not think 6 blms could do this either if the thought comes to mind. Given that the whm queen loves to spam cures and use bene around 15-30%, you can't kill them fast enough I suspect.
For your best chances I would recommend the pld king. He has no ugly spells and nin tank does well against him (minus how fast he eats through shadows). Two hasted nins could probibly do well against him, but you will be lower on dmg. Expect to lose at least your first couple fights while you learn this fight. Everyone needs to know the strat inside and out. One mistake and you lose. There's a reason you don't see trump crowns around. :wink:
If anyone has some other strats could work on this fight, I would love to see them.
Info about the types:
Pld: Hits the hardest out of all, extremely high accu. Nin tank will be hard pressed to dodge any attacks. We did not try with double mambo though from brd. He cures himself a lot and buffs himself. He was actually one of the more beatable types, although we still lost. His 2hour is pretty tame compared to the others. Just kite with gravity while its up.
Rdm: This guy is the devil incarnate. Hits almost as hard as the pld, hits faster, just as high of accu, spams sleep, nukes, silence, paralyze. He will tear a nin tank to pieces in under 30 secs. Do not waste your time trying this one. Chainspells 2hour will wipe you no matter what.
Whm: Hits pretty weak compared to the others. Only casts divine nukes, banishga 3, banish 3, holy, dia2 (maybe 3), protect, shell. Problem is his 2hour is bene. He used it at 30% against us and recored 6.5k hp (meaning king whm has around 10k hp) in addition to healing the queens.. He will also cure 5 spam the queens if they are in range and hurt. He is the most survivable, but slowest to kill.
Blm: Hits weaker like the whm, still high accu. Spams AoE nukes and sleepga2. He dies pretty fast in comparison to the others, but it is very hard to survive that long against his aoes. He also likes ancient magic which is very good if you have a blink tank and melees. Problem is if the whm queen starts healing him, you can't win. Will not melee you unless you run out of range while he's casting on you, you manage to silence him, or you melee him.
Party Strats and setup
Tank: Pld can not tank these. They hit too hard, too high of accu. We only used nin, but war/nin might be better given nin will be hard pressed to evade their attacks so the extra def could help.
DD: All melees need /nin. These things hit way too hard if they pull hate. We did this with 2 rng/nin pre rng nerf. This let them stand outside aoe ranged when fighting the mage types which helped a lot. After a couple loses, we made sure the tank and rngs stayed as far apart as possible so no more than 1 could be hit by sleepga2 or aoe nukes. Post rng nerf you are welcome to try melees for equal damage output, but you will have problems with fighting blm queen (king too if you choose that) and whm to a lesser extent.
Our party setup was nin/war, rng/nin, rng/nin, rdm/nin, rdm/blm, whm/blm. We would have gone with rdm/nin on both, but one didn't have it. Our attempt was to have the rdm/nins gravity kite 2 of the enemies while the other 4 killed 1. We found king to be most resistent to gravity, but he takes the longest to kill. So its either have 1 rdm/nin have a hard, but short time kiting the king while you kill a queen or let both kite the two queens for a long time while you kill the king first. After one is dead, we had both rdms team up to kite the other one because by that point they were becoming resistent to gravity.
One fight Neophytal (rdm/nin) managed a neat trick of getting both queens to himself, but not meleeing. He took them to the far end and let them cast on him while he stood still, but they did not melee. So /nin asorbed most of the nukes and he used his cures for the occasional aoe nuke. Poison potions could work against the blms sleepga2 to help with that, but that means no stoneskin then, up to you. He was able to do this for a good 10 mins without problems, but we wiped against the blm king (other rdm had died trying to kite).
So I think if you could pull the king to the far end (easier than pulling the two queens down there and having them melee) and let a rdm/nin eat all the nukes from queens, you would have a good chance of doing this. I would recommend killing the blm queen 2nd and making sure to keep him away from the whm queen (else he will be cured). Once the only thing left is the whm queen, it is an easy fight. Hardest part will be having the rdm/nin get hate on the two queens so they stay put at the start of the fight. Possibly have the rdm/nin attack the king at the start of the fight so the queens aggro him and then have the tank voke the king down to the far end (near the entrance circle). It is key you don't pull hate off the kiters or rdm/nin at the start. By keeping them far apart (40m or more, 50m is farthest you can see enemies) you can easily avoid pulling hate off each other.
I really do not think 6 blms could do this either if the thought comes to mind. Given that the whm queen loves to spam cures and use bene around 15-30%, you can't kill them fast enough I suspect.
For your best chances I would recommend the pld king. He has no ugly spells and nin tank does well against him (minus how fast he eats through shadows). Two hasted nins could probibly do well against him, but you will be lower on dmg. Expect to lose at least your first couple fights while you learn this fight. Everyone needs to know the strat inside and out. One mistake and you lose. There's a reason you don't see trump crowns around. :wink:
If anyone has some other strats could work on this fight, I would love to see them.
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