Saddowned

There's somethings best left unknown to the public when it comes to political warfare. I'd rather not know all the specifics and be told a bullshit story in order to keep control.
 
Anyways I was just arguing for the sake of argument... someone has to take the other perspective. I don't really give a shit what happens, I just hate Bush and everything he and his father has done. They always made their intentions look good to the people but they were always done for underhanded reasons.
 
Actually as being Canadian I am in the position to give an outsiders view, one that is not affected by American political propaganda and one where I form an opinion based on evidence and facts which I have observed. I'm not in denial that I have an underhanded president because its not my president, so I can judge him to the full extent, the same way you all can judge Saddam.
 
Firestreak said:
The declaration that you're not affected by propoganda is pretty humorous as you spout off about evidence that the US Government planned the September 11 attacks.

Its called an example. I didn't say anywhere that I believed or didn't believe it. But the fact that there are people out there showing more proof then their own government is sad. Maybe the government just figured they wouldn't have to prove anything to its own people. They still haven't by the way.
 
hell im done arguing with some "outsider" that seems to know nothing about both of governments. hell i hate what bush has done and yes i was in the Us army for 4 years and just got out not to long ago. but saying the Saddam doesn't deserve what hes got coming to him. this is a man that condones the beheading and torturing of people that don't think the way he does. that right there stands alone from a government that extorts money. how in the fuck can you compaire the killing of innocent lives because they think differently than the leader to someone skimming money from businesses both are wrong but one is in far worse than the other. and the thing to top it off we just caught saddam it is his OWN people that have condemned him to death that right there should say something. so before you talk about something you have no clue about please learn your facts
 
When Prime Minister Harper starts murding people living in Canada, I'm sure there will be no problem whatsoever..............................
 
tonicfly said:
hell im done arguing with some "outsider" that seems to know nothing about both of governments. hell i hate what bush has done and yes i was in the Us army for 4 years and just got out not to long ago. but saying the Saddam doesn't deserve what hes got coming to him. this is a man that condones the beheading and torturing of people that don't think the way he does. that right there stands alone from a government that extorts money. how in the fuck can you compaire the killing of innocent lives because they think differently than the leader to someone skimming money from businesses both are wrong but one is in far worse than the other. and the thing to top it off we just caught saddam it is his OWN people that have condemned him to death that right there should say something. so before you talk about something you have no clue about please learn your facts

The only facts you have is that which has been spoonfed too you. It doesn't take an educated person to make opinions without any extensive knowledge of either government. Opinions should be a conglomerate of facts and personal morals, and an unbiased opinion is even better.

The governments are not the thing I'm arguing here, its Bush vs Saddam and what they have both done as people, if you haven't drawn that out of the conversation yet.

If you never stop to ask yourself, "why do I think everything Bush does is for the greater good" and never seriously consider the possible ulterior motive then you are brainwashed. Don't bother arguing that everything US does it for good, you aren't angels. There are many things past presidents have done for the greater good, for peace without any incentive coming out of it. But Bush is not one of them.
 
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decidence said:
Don't bother arguing that everything US does it for good, you aren't angels.


I don't see anyone doing that.
 
Mr.Wonko said:
Savagery+Barbarism=Justice?

Eye for an Eye is strangely sound.
 
So, what is this "underhanded" Business Bush is involved in? Is he secretly murdering off Jews in the background or something? Please, do enlighten me.
 
I just love the whole oil argument. Was it just me paying 3.50 a gallon? Where was all this oil for that?
 
lolconspiracies
My life is so horrible and different since Bush is president ; ;

Also if Bush was anything like Saddam wouldn't Jon Stewart, David Cross, and the entire Democratic Party all have been sentenced to death?
 
decidence said:
You are all brainwashed and unable to accept that your own people are just as bad as anyone in Iraq, just in a different way. Iraq's people execute and torture. US's people extort money, get rich off it's people and steal oil from other countries. And who gets to choose which evil is the lesser.

thank god there is canada then, where the air smells sweater, people are perfect and shit rainbows and their government makes sure they are well aware of the great Satan... the United States. Seriously, I might be brainwashed but atleast I can get a CAT scan within 6 months
 
Why are you even comparing bush to Saddam? It was Saddams fucking country that sentenced him to death not us. Obviously they had a problem with him. And you act like bush makes all the decisions in our government, have you seen any of his speeches? There is no way that guy is doing half the shit he is blamed for. Is bush a dumb ass? Yes but don't only blame him its the whole government.
 
Westyle said:
Also if Bush was anything like Saddam wouldn't Jon Stewart, David Cross, and the entire Democratic Party all have been sentenced to death?

Saddam said, "Fuck it! I'll commit some murders. I might get hanged by my own people, but it'll be worth it!!"

Bush "Triple Dog Dared" Saddam...So I mean, anyone in that position would have to murder their own people. Maybe Saddam is getting treated unfairly. Maybe Bush should fry for putting him up to it. Yeah. That's it.



This thread delivers.



I can't wait till that mother fucker swings.
 
decidence said:
The only facts you have is that which has been spoonfed too you. It doesn't take an educated person to make opinions without any extensive knowledge of either government. Opinions should be a conglomerate of facts and personal morals, and an unbiased opinion is even better.

The governments are not the thing I'm arguing here, its Bush vs Saddam and what they have both done as people, if you haven't drawn that out of the conversation yet.

If you never stop to ask yourself, "why do I think everything Bush does is for the greater good" and never seriously consider the possible ulterior motive then you are brainwashed. Don't bother arguing that everything US does it for good, you aren't angels. There are many things past presidents have done for the greater good, for peace without any incentive coming out of it. But Bush is not one of them.

sorry deci but your so blind sided by your own opinion that you cant stop to read ive already said that what bush does is fucked up no arguement there but it is nothing compaired to the piece of shit saddam. hell bush is outta office soon and some new asshole will be in his place. i would like to know where im so brainwashed though because you need to look at yourself and the mirror before calling someone brainwashed. considering the most of the facts you would know about are from the news. ive been over there and ive seen the way those people are treated and have lived for a very long time because of tyrannical ruler and his sadistic family
 
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