Salvage.

Well thank you!
 
Myrrh said:
How do you know what i was implying? hell even i don't know what I'm implying most of the time. So rude of you to assume such things.
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I'll just assume you're being completely sarcastic then. And coming from a LS like Rise, aka Notorious cheaters, and yes, I'm talking about people who REALLY cheat, as in hacks that help them win fights, claim mobs, That's just the funniest thing ive read this entire thread. Not to mention coming specifically to charming NMs, to PK my LS, great sportsmanship right? You guys are a shining example of FFXI integrity. oh wait! I know how to use sarcasm too, Arent I clever?

Myrrh said:
I won the case. Do i get a cookie now?
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And Yes, of course you can have a cookie for being smuurrt. Oh wait no, saracasm again. It just comes out at the darndest times, Don'tcha'know?
 
Takes a cheater to know a cheater i suppose.

Name calling is fun.
 
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I'll just assume you're being completely sarcastic then. And coming from a LS like Rise, aka Notorious cheaters, and yes, I'm talking about people who REALLY cheat, as in hacks that help them win fights, claim mobs, That's just the funniest thing ive read this entire thread. Not to mention coming specifically to charming NMs, to PK my LS, great sportsmanship right? You guys are a shining example of FFXI integrity. oh wait! I know how to use sarcasm too, Arent I clever?



And Yes, of course you can have a cookie for being smuurrt. Oh wait no, saracasm again. It just comes out at the darndest times, Don'tcha'know?
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When you cant refute the claim, you refute the source.

You should hax yourself into a better argument position.
See hut I did thar?
 
Nope, Ive said what Ive done, and that is not claim botting or flee hacking to fight anything unlike the LS I point out. My point is they cheat to win, and I cheated to see what the programs "could" do, on a testing basis only though.
 
For the record i never said you cheated, Gray. For you to come out and defend yourself in such an angry way means you might be hiding something. And really bashing Rise? a dead Ls. come on. Shaunessy did better then you. Hell marajade can shut up me better then you. You sir fail.

And what happened to being calm? you are only making my point stronger.

But really, I do love how both you and Sire(w/e) COMPLETELY dodge the topic and just bash people.

Edit: And LMAO "I only cheated to see what they could do" FUCKING GOLD.

Hey guys i only botted faf to see if it this bot i had worked. Really.
 
Lol, you prove your point more than anyone, But only in regards to yourself. Your post seems far angrier than any Ive read honestly. I'm perfectly calm here, I could go with the cliche "Cant we all just get along?" But I doubt that would result in much. And though i do appreciate you saying that I don't hack Myrrh, your assumption that I am angry is however, just an assumption. I'm really not, I'm not a very emotional person, I rely on facts and reason.

True people accusing me of things I am clearly not guilty of is an annoyance, but it's not going to get a Rise out of me. No pun intended. There is no place for "you got pwned" commentary here, unless you're just trying to fill thread space with the "entertaining yet useless parts" which i'm not knocking either, Heck I think 1/2 the people reading the threads here to be amused anyway. What I'm saying is that there are still many people out their who "heavily" rely on hacks to claim, and even kill NMs even to this day, even after all the bannings. I'm also saying that Im not one of them, and I have never been one of them.
 
Myrrh said:
For the record i never said you cheated, Gray. For you to come out and defend yourself in such an angry way means you might be hiding something. And really bashing Rise? a dead Ls. come on. Shaunessy did better then you. Hell marajade can shut up me better then you. You sir fail.

And what happened to being calm? you are only making my point stronger.

But really, I do love how both you and Sire(w/e) COMPLETELY dodge the topic and just bash people.

Edit: And LMAO "I only cheated to see what they could do" FUCKING GOLD.

Hey guys i only botted faf to see if it this bot i had worked. Really.
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what did i dodge? Your the one throwing around accusations atm, all i asked was that you actually prove anything you say. Can you prove it, with real proof? (and no, me logging on is not proof, contrary to what you and your buds might think).

And who did i bash? What I said about jamal is true. He was upset that I said it was stealing to take a kirin, so he was attempting to take the moral upperhand in the thread. However, all his information about myself, and meridith was flawed.

I dont know anything about rise. I have no problems with anyone in that shell at all. I think hmk might be able to vouch for me on that, as i had tried to get one or two people to join that ls, as well as offered assistance to him a couple of times.

Now, the mantra around here, of many of those that support your view is 'once a hacker, always a hacker.' If grays allegation is true, then what does that make you? And no, ive never seen proof of your ls hacking, nor am i attempting to validate grays assertion that your ls hacked. Im just posing a question.
 
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And coming from a LS like Rise, aka Notorious cheaters, and yes, I'm talking about people who REALLY cheat, as in hacks that help them win fights, claim mobs,
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LOL@you. Name one single example, ever, of Rise cheating to win a fight or claim a mob.

And no, I don't count. I never claimed shit.
 
This kind of shit is getting old and stupid.

Person 1>> he cheats

Person 2>> I don't cheat. Show me proof. but i won't show you proof.

It's getting old. The same thing can be said for that damn Windower/Parser debate. LET IT REST! No one gives a shit if you cheat, weather or not windower/parser is a cheat.

People only care about the fact you(anyone now not just you two) lie to cover up something so damn stupid. Well, i can only say that for some people. Other people who take this game to seriously might hate you for cheating.

I don't know the deal with Rise cheating, Nor do i care. Yes i was in a ls with cheaters. Yes it's as bad as myself cheating but am i going to go bat shit insane trying to deny it? NO. cause no one gives a shit. hell if anything i wish my ls did a better job, we never got any damn claims. If i made an App to a ls would they talk about how i was in a ls with cheaters? Doubt it. they'd must likely check up on how well i do my job, If i show up to events and so on.

You can call me a cheater, you can make up false claims, and so on. It doesn't bother me. If this was 2 weeks ago i'd say my computer was too shitty to even handle a bot but with this new computer......anyways. No point in boting. i got no endgame shell and i plan on keeping it that way for a few months. I need a break from this bullshit drama that i hate so much.

Yes i'm angry. why? cause morons like gray and Sire can't just fucking admit it. instead they get "friends" to justify it. Or try to make it sound right to themselves. If you two want to carry on this stupid shit then be my guest. You both cheat. No one cares. You continue to lie about it. Making this all the more fun.

And heres some fuel for the fire.

Uzor cheats.
Marajade Cheats.
Lenneth cheats.
neosquall cheats.
I cheat.

Wait....FUCK YOU MYRRH I DON'T CHEAT YOU BASTARD. YOU HAVE NO PROOF. YOU'RE FUCKING LYING. WHY SHOULD I CHEAT....(someone fill in a cheaters response for the rest)

It's late. I'm tried. and in a bad mood. thank you and good night.
 
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Myrrh said:
This kind of shit is getting old and stupid.

Person 1>> he cheats

Person 2>> I don't cheat. Show me proof. but i won't show you proof.

It's getting old. The same thing can be said for that damn Windower/Parser debate. LET IT REST! No one gives a shit if you cheat, weather or not windower/parser is a cheat.

People only care about the fact you(anyone now not just you two) lie to cover up something so damn stupid. Well, i can only say that for some people. Other people who take this game to seriously might hate you for cheating.

I don't know the deal with Rise cheating, Nor do i care. Yes i was in a ls with cheaters. Yes it's as bad as myself cheating but am i going to go bat shit insane trying to deny it? NO. cause no one gives a shit. hell if anything i wish my ls did a better job, we never got any damn claims. If i made an App to a ls would they talk about how i was in a ls with cheaters? Doubt it. they'd must likely check up on how well i do my job, If i show up to events and so on.

You can call me a cheater, you can make up false claims, and so on. It doesn't bother me. If this was 2 weeks ago i'd say my computer was too shitty to even handle a bot but with this new computer......anyways. No point in boting. i got no endgame shell and i plan on keeping it that way for a few months. I need a break from this bullshit drama that i hate so much.

Yes i'm angry. why? cause morons like gray and Sire can't just fucking admit it. instead they get "friends" to justify it. Or try to make it sound right to themselves. If you two want to carry on this stupid shit then be my guest. You both cheat. No one cares. You continue to lie about it. Making this all the more fun.

And heres some fuel for the fire.

Uzor cheats.
Marajade Cheats.
Lenneth cheats.
neosquall cheats.
I cheat.

Wait....FUCK YOU MYRRH I DON'T CHEAT YOU BASTARD. YOU HAVE NO PROOF. YOU'RE FUCKING LYING. WHY SHOULD I CHEAT....(someone fill in a cheaters response for the rest)

It's late. I'm tried. and in a bad mood. thank you and good night.
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good post, thanks.
 
Can someone tell me what the origional intention of this thread was? And then tell me what any of YOUR posts on this thread has to do with it?
 
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Can someone tell me what the origional intention of this thread was? And then tell me what any of YOUR posts on this thread has to do with it?
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Only once you explain where and how you pulled 25million gil out your ass for a Penance Robe, kay.
 
Myrrh said:
For the record i never said you cheated, Gray. For you to come out and defend yourself in such an angry way means you might be hiding something. And really bashing Rise? a dead Ls. come on. Shaunessy did better then you. Hell marajade can shut up me better then you. You sir fail.

And what happened to being calm? you are only making my point stronger.

But really, I do love how both you and Sire(w/e) COMPLETELY dodge the topic and just bash people.

Edit: And LMAO "I only cheated to see what they could do" FUCKING GOLD.

Hey guys i only botted faf to see if it this bot i had worked. Really.
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That's not true, and you know it. That's a hearsay. Most people, when accused of something, try to defend themselves if they get accused by a person that's not a personal friend. Almost everyone care more or less what others think of them unconciously.

So for you to come out and say that just because Grays is defending himself doesn't mean he's a cheater. If I say to someone that "You're obviously jelous of him due to him having better gear then you. Just admit it. ", they will most likely answer "No I'm not" or "Fuck no" from instinct. If it's a personal friend of theirs, however, they will most likely answer "Yeah =( You caught me" due to them believing that personal friends of them are friendly. Thus, their first assuption is that it must have been a joke, and they assume their friend will read their irony. Friends can ususally read eachother, due to knowing how they speak/type.

So saying that just because Grays is defending himself must mean that he's hiding something is far from truth. And I would personally say that it's a rather meaningless argument.

Myrrh said:
So....you'll bitch at people for not showing you proof of you cheating thus making you a forum terrorist but you'll bitch for the right not to give in to people asking you for proof to clear your own name.....


HAY GUYZ I R SMRT
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Since you're the ones bitching at him first, that makes you the terrorist. Now, you can say that someone is a terrorist for defending themselves against terrorist, but you'd be saying USA are terrorists then for defending themselves against Afghanistan.

So what's your oppinion? Did Sirelohir (USA) defend themselves, or did Sirelohir(USA) act as terrorists too in order to counter the terrorists?
 
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Myrrh Was obviously upset when they posted the stuff they did, I mean they did admit it in the end after all. Even though that was their angle for why I looked guilty to them. At least they have the dignity to come out and say, hey i was being a hypocrite, but it was emotion that was driving me to say the things I did.

As in my case, I'm defending my own integrity which is a much different case. I have said a number of times I am completely open to anyone bringing forth any proof of my "illegal actions" because, I know they have none. That is my angle.
 
Whisp said:
Can someone tell me what the origional intention of this thread was? And then tell me what any of YOUR posts on this thread has to do with it?
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As to answer your question though Whisp, which I'm sure a number of people are curious about; this thread was originally in the "Good times" section, because, it was about the "good times" some of us had on our first salvage run, which was also a very successful run. a Number of people thought it would be "ok" to shit all over it though, the positive trend of the thread lasted for about 5 posts.

So instead of locking it, or stopping anyone from doing this, our good friend Moderator "Alyada" thought it would be the "right" thing to do, by placing it in the Flameboard instead, because that's basically what it had turned into anyway.

Alyada really makes a fine example there too, now everyone knows it's "ok" to take a fat shit on people's discussion on having a good time, just because they don't like a person or a few people involved.

Morale of the Story Alyada - Slander, and Jibes aside, soon as a thread starts filling up with disrespectful people making disrespectful unbased commentary, Throw it into the Flames and let Havoc let Loose! Because that's the "right" thing to do, Amirite?
 
Alyada already explained why he did what he did. You should probably read that over again.

Plus, you say "amirite" an awful lot. You should probably think of a new closing line, amirite?
 
Makelith said:
Alyada already explained why he did what he did. You should probably read that over again.

Plus, you say "amirite" an awful lot. You should probably think of a new closing line, dood.
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FIXED FOR GREAT JUSTICE.
 
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