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Shaunessy

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With Seigan active Vs. DC Lesser Colibre I just anticipated 4 attacks per third eye. Still need to try it out Vs. IT and see if the rate drops, but if it stays like that then yes SAM is a new tank for slower attacking mobs.
 
Good shit, did you counter any?

Also, like i posted in the other thread hasso is 10 str 5 att and however much haste. Pretty nice, could use seigan to tank and pop on hasso for ws then go back. These JAs are bomb.
 
Jesus H, that's better than :Ichi. I demand a nerf!
 
Or mobs w/o double attack. I'm sure that the rate would drop on IT's and such, but by how much I have yet to see. Even so, this makes sam a much better tanking job, albeit our ability to evade attacks is completely random unlike ninja who's is set. But hey, we have HP for a reason. I'm sure standing up to a mob for like 15 seconds shouldn't be a huge problem.
 
Not to mention B+ eva rating and A- parry.
 
My parrying skill is about half my gk skill. I can't skill it up for shit. lol
 
Its much higher right after you use 3rd eye. As I said in the Version Update Info thread, Saotome Haidate + Seigan + 3rd eye = omgiwant75
 
Yeah i just tested some colibri too and countered a few, maybe 3-5 in 4 fights, pretty decent.
 
EDIT: Nevermind, I tested.

Went out as whm/sam...

Haste w/o Hasso on: 15 second recast.
Haste w/ Hasso on: 23 second recast.
 
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ds083roadkill said:
breifly tested the updates.

third eye has a new icon of course, which i personally think looks retarded, but it's nice. Not quite sure if seigan is required to have the enhance third eye, but from what i seen, third eye will stay at about a 50% rate, diminishing as you go on. One particular gob went: anticipate > counter > gone, so i'm not quite sure if it remains after the counter happens. Was in b.haidate at the time. relic legs have yet to be tested yet.

regaurding utsusemi, the recast timers seem to be greatly effected. The recast for Ni w/ hasso/seigan up is 1:08, ichi 0:45, leading me to belive the slow+ is greater the bigger the spell. +125% slow would be in NI, +50% w/ ichi. progressive slow+% ? idk.... The casting time is greatly lengthened. Utsu: ichi taking nearly 5 seconds (110% of a casting bar) before you hand accually removes from your face and the spell goes off. Ni respectivally the same.

Hasso is a flat +10 STR, from what i could gather, somewhere around +5% haste. acc is unknown. the haste has no effect over utsuemi compared w/ seigan.

Blade bash outright sucks a donkey now.... it's range is that of regular bashes. /em removes that merit.

Overwhelm seems improved possibly. i did 700+ ws's on TW mobs over and over. Was w/ hasso so that could have contributed.
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Rappa said:
EDIT: Nevermind, I tested.

Went out as whm/sam...

Haste w/o Hasso on: 15 second recast.
Haste w/ Hasso on: 23 second recast.
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Jesus fizucking christ, 25% haste?! That's gotta be for spells only... I hope...

edit: I totally read that wrong, thought it said 15sec with Hasso on.

How does that work then? Haste is by default 20sec recast, you wearing other Haste gear Rappa?

A penalty will be imposed on magic, song, and ninjutsu recast time while Hasso or Seigan is in effect.
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CmdrFly said:
How does that work then? Haste is by default 20sec recast, you wearing other Haste gear Rappa?
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Of course :P Standard whm equip, hehe.
 
I don't know I had STR+8 with Hasso on at 56. Total was STR+11 with AF legs on it may go up as you hit 60 and 70 respectivly. I'm only 57 so eh... that could be it. Seigan I don't know if you could call it better than Ichi if you carry EVA gear I could see SAM being a damn good first voke for SATA, but a tank I don't think so. I have to test it in EXP. The 4-5 anticipates is right I think I saw counter go off like 1% of the time. These were on TWs of course.
 
ds083roadkill said:
The recast for Ni w/ hasso/seigan up is 1:08, ichi 0:45, leading me to belive the slow+ is greater the bigger the spell. +125% slow would be in NI, +50% w/ ichi. progressive slow+% ?
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Ni by default is 45sec recast, not 30... so 50% across the board works.

45sec + 50% (22.5sec) = 68sec
 
oh thats true, heh. i can't add time >< lol

still, it sucks >=(
 
Hasso:

+10 STR, 10% faster swings, i assume therefore 10 acc @ 75
+5 STR, 5% faster swings, and i also assume 5 acc @ 37

Was +4 STR with 28 SAM sub on my WHM, i assume +3 str when you get the ability at 25. So yes, it's progressive with level.

There's no atk on it despite what some ppl say. Yes, you have 5 more atk, but that's because you got +10 str and not becuase it added 5 atk.
 
Gregedor said:
Hasso:
There's no atk on it despite what some ppl say. Yes, you have 5 more atk, but that's because you got +10 str and not becuase it added 5 atk.
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It's still 5 more attack then you had before you use the ability :P
 
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