Sanoske

[Morwen]

You have no idea how much $4k would help me. I'm saving to move across the damn country and shit is expensive because everyone, EVERYONE, wants to make a buck. I would not sell my gil, my character or my gear for RL money because I would be the same as those that I dislike so very much.

To knowingly go against an agreement that YOU made, basically giving your word, to do something that is strictly prohibited in the agreement; speaks highly of your character.

 

[Rappa]

Did I ever say it was life changing? Nope, can't say I did.

However, to a 22 year old guy paying his own college bills,etc... yup, it helps. That's for damn sure.

And if people say/think I'm a piece of trash based on this, more power to them. I'm glad you have the balls to say it to me. But you and I both know that at the end of the day, the opinions on my actions within the game mean almost nothing.... since they only would affect my in-game rep, and I'm not in-game. Not saying peoples opinions in general don't mean anything, because they do, just not on FFXI. I never spent much time on QCDN outside Crafting forums and the Non-FFXI related sections anyway.

That's perfectly fine. I don't care about who you are or what you do RL. Like I said, I hope you invested the money in some good karma way. I come to QCDN to discuss FFXI, or to discuss random things in life with people I met from FFXI. Thus when it comes to this site, I can no longer respect or care about you or your opinions because you've tainted your rep when there was no reason to do so. You reap what you sow. You might not give a nickel about my opinion, but maybe you do. I'm just not the type to hold back my opinion about something like this. In time, I think you'll come to realize that it was a poor decision to bring this out into the open. You might even come to realize that what you did was wrong once the money dries up. Then again, maybe you won't.

 

[Sanoske]

That's perfectly fine. I don't care about who you are or what you do RL. Like I said, I hope you invested the money in some good karma way. I come to QCDN to discuss FFXI, or to discuss random things in life with people I met from FFXI. Thus when it comes to this site, I can no longer respect or care about you or your opinions because you've tainted your rep when there was no reason to do so. You reap what you sow. You might not give a nickel about my opinion, but maybe you do. I'm just not the type to hold back my opinion about something like this. In time, I think you'll come to realize that it was a poor decision to bring this out into the open. You might even come to realize that what you did was wrong once the money dries up. Then again, maybe you won't.

Understandable. Maybe slight regret on posting it up, but what's done is done, so I'll roll with it. As for wishing I hadn't sold gil? Not likely. The money is going to be gone pretty soon anyways, but with more than worthwhile investments. Only reason I would regret that is if I wanted to play again, which I won't.

 

[Uzor]

It was a shitty thing then, it is a shitty thing now. While I understand your reasoning, it isn't enough to ever excuse what you did.

 

[Bajaratt]

What I do know, and what I personally can attest to is paying over $900p/year to play the game.

Not getting into this thread, even though I do not like what he did and think he's as bad as any of the RMT around; this part I have to question. How are you spending $900 a year on this game?

The fee for a single account, single character is $12.95 per month. Round it up to $13 a month for easier math and you get $13 x 12 months = $156 per year. Unless you have 5 accounts and a bunch of extra characters on each account, where are you coming up with this $900 a year figure?

 

[Mirewen]

I was gonna say.. shit you played for 5 years, who gives a shit if you sold all your stuff at the end.

This is more of my mentality.

Funding RMT throughout a period of time is kinda lame imo but if after you've played for an extended period of time, meh, it's your to do whatever you want with.

My gil (about 75-90 mil if I sold everything off) is sitting on my dead character, I should have at least given it to friends but at that time I didn't know I'd be quitting for good, only found out after my character had expired and I didn't care enough to get her going again.

 

[Morcheeba]

Not getting into this thread, even though I do not like what he did and think he's as bad as any of the RMT around; this part I have to question. How are you spending $900 a year on this game

I never had an internet feed nor an xbl account until I got FFXI. Because my want to play FFXI I pay $60p/month for my internet, $15p/month for my characters and an additional $60p/year for my xbl membership.

That's $960 p/year.

IF I do play for 6 years like a lot of ppl have that would be $5,760.

THATS where I get my figures.

 

[Bladewind]

I'm not surprise tbh. I never liked him. Might be due to his "relations" (Vang etc).

Rofl, hypocrite.

Oh, sorry i forgot you "farmed" the 36 Mil for your 3 salvage bodies, plus the rest of your gear (toreadors etc) by NPCing demon drops from Castle Zvahl Baileys. You want to insult me you little prick i've got 2 pieces of advice, a) provide some evidence and b) don't run away and hide in the corner with your fingers in your ears pretending not to notice a reply.

Oh, and if you've got so much money to throw around, merit 5/5 STP on SAM and BUY A FUCKING HAUBERGEON +1, gimp.

 

[Sneakypants]

To knowingly go against an agreement that YOU made, basically giving your word, to do something that is strictly prohibited in the agreement; speaks highly of your character.

These are the rules that everyone must accept to play the game. Don't accept them, then you can't play. It's the same as using an iPod or countless other devices or services. Don't agree to the T.o.S.? Then you will not be allowed to use the service. Yet, everyone agrees and goes about their merry way.

Every last person who has ever done anything against the terms of service, from flee hacking, to selling gil, to running windower has gone against what they said they wouldn't do. When counting the little-white-lies of violations (your logic of agreeing to the T.o.S. doesn't discriminate against large or small violations, but merely recognizes violations) almost nobody is 100% squeeky clean.

I doubt you feel that windower users and people that violate the T.o.S. in other "tiny" ways have tarnished their character as much as Sanoske apparently has. Perhaps there is a better example you can use. This blanket doesn't fit so well. :/

 

[Sanoske]

These are the rules that everyone must accept to play the game. Don't accept them, then you can't play. It's the same as using an iPod or countless other devices or services. Don't agree to the T.o.S.? Then you will not be allowed to use the service. Yet, everyone agrees and goes about their merry way.

Every last person who has ever done anything against the terms of service, from flee hacking, to selling gil, to running windower has gone against what they said they wouldn't do. When counting the little-white-lies of violations (your logic of agreeing to the T.o.S. doesn't discriminate against large or small violations, but merely recognizes violations) almost nobody is 100% squeeky clean.

I doubt you feel that windower users and people that violate the T.o.S. in other "tiny" ways have tarnished their character as much as Sanoske apparently has. Perhaps there is a better example you can use. This blanket doesn't fit so well. :/

Well, you gotta remember Sneak... I will, in fact, be using this money to start an illegal meth lab in my basement. Eventually becoming a druglord and infesting the country with broken lives and shattered dreams.

That's what I meant when I said the money will help "pay the bills".

 

[Bajaratt]

I never had an internet feed nor an xbl account until I got FFXI. Because my want to play FFXI I pay $60p/month for my internet, $15p/month for my characters and an additional $60p/year for my xbl membership.

That's $960 p/year.

IF I do play for 6 years like a lot of ppl have that would be $5,760.

THATS where I get my figures.

First off, you bought an internet connection(and you're seriously overpaying for it) JUST for a single video game? That's beyond insane.

Second, you're factoring in costs that aren't part of the game. That's like factoring in how much you're paying for car insurance each year and also including what you pay for gas, your car payments, and any maintenance done on the car. Plus, unless you're only using the internet for FFXI; no porn, no email, no shopping, no streaming, etc, it's not an inclusive cost to the game.

 

[Morcheeba]

First off, you bought an internet connection(and you're seriously overpaying for it) JUST for a single video game? That's beyond insane.

Second, you're factoring in costs that aren't part of the game. That's like factoring in how much you're paying for car insurance each year and also including what you pay for gas, your car payments, and any maintenance done on the car. Plus, unless you're only using the internet for FFXI; no porn, no email, no shopping, no streaming, etc, it's not an inclusive cost to the game.

You obviously missed my point, and one of the very first things I said in response to your question. I never HAD an internet feed until I wanted to play FFXI, I never HAD an xbl gold membership allowing my online game access before I got FFXI to play.

I know now my internet usages go beyond FFXI. That didn't happen for quite a few months after I initially started playing FFXI. Didn't have a computer at home til, wait it's the 19th, less than a month ago, that's in 2 years.

I do use my gold xbl for CoD4/Waw and a few (very few) other games, mostly the live experience.

Yea that internet is over charged.. that's my life in a nutshell, I get raped by companies =) Look up some of my MS complaints in the gaming section of this forum. hehe

At that aside, lets divide my monthly fee into quarters to account for the other 3 online games I play. $15p/month for internet, $15p/month for FFXI, & $5p/month for gold membership..that's $420 p/year.

Substantial difference, just remember though, no internet feed, regardless of the cost, no FFXI pour moi.

The only thing this has to do with the OP is that in 6 years I personally would have spent over $5500 ultimately for FFXI.

 

[Anglis]

Lmao Sano! What a way to go out!


Who cares really? Honestly at this point in the games life, it isn't affecting you personally. Sano is a nice guy no matter what he did in the game.

 

[Miros]

Personally if I ever did this, I would have just kept it a secret.

 

[Uzor]

Rofl, hypocrite.

Oh, sorry i forgot you "farmed" the 36 Mil for your 3 salvage bodies, plus the rest of your gear (toreadors etc) by NPCing demon drops from Castle Zvahl Baileys. You want to insult me you little prick i've got 2 pieces of advice, a) provide some evidence and b) don't run away and hide in the corner with your fingers in your ears pretending not to notice a reply.

Oh, and if you've got so much money to throw around, merit 5/5 STP on SAM and BUY A FUCKING HAUBERGEON +1, gimp.

Wait, you seriously just accused Mdk of buying gil?

lol... That's all I can say. You DO know that

1) we've made 84.500.000 gil selling Salvage items
2) he have several crafts at 100

right?

 

[Morcheeba]

Personally if I ever did this, I would have just kept it a secret.

That would have been bright =)

 

[Odon]

So I sold over 800 million total, GET AT ME DAWG WOOF WOOF! Which amounted to a little over $15,000.

Don't act like any of you wouldn't take the amount of money him and I made at the end of your run of this game. You know god damn well you would. It all boils down to you being jealous he just got money for nothing.

 

[Mirewen]

So I sold over 800 million total, GET AT ME DAWG WOOF WOOF! Which amounted to a little over $15,000.

Fuck you crafters All my skills are at 0, I actually had to farm gil ._.; If i never see a leech again...

 

[Zyndara]

Some people don't sell out. Even over something as trivial as a video game.

 

[Rappa]

So I sold over 800 million total, GET AT ME DAWG WOOF WOOF! Which amounted to a little over $15,000.

Don't act like any of you wouldn't take the amount of money him and I made at the end of your run of this game. You know god damn well you would. It all boils down to you being jealous he just got money for nothing.

For starters, I'm not jealous at all. I have a very fun, rewarding, high paying job where I can play FFXI while I work naked if I want to, lol. As for making "money for nothing", you know that's not even close to being true. You can claim it's "nothing", but it's still a vast amount of time even to craft up that much gil, time you could've spent doing something more fun or even doing something to make more money if that's what you really cared about.

At the end of the day what it comes down to is why we choose to do things. Did you choose to play FFXI for fun or to make rl money? If you chose money, then you chose poorly. While I won't lie and say $15k (if that's accurate, which I'm assuming it's embellished even if it's close to accurate) is not much money, I will say that I'm sure you could've found ways to make much more than that in the same amount of time. If you chose to play FFXI for fun then well.. you obviously didn't do that very well since you wasted so much time crafting. I'm guessing it's solely for money though since you quit a while ago.

So yeah, everyone here will talk about how awesome it is and how great you are while bitching about that guy named Fwckjw who keeps undercutting them in the AH or about that guy named Giuwerlft that keeps claiming their NMs. GG qcdn, lol.