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Honestly I've just gotten used to the fact that overcrowded camps in the expansion areas beat an empty exp area anywhere else. It's hard to deal with people who don't realize the fact that by going into some of the best exp zones in the game it means they're going to have to face competitions.

One of my friend's was soloing on puddings and Moev demanded he leave and send threatening tells at him for like an hour because Moev wanted all the puddings for himself. People just have to get over it and relax, I think. So 2 parties make 10k instead of 1 party making 12k... grow up, ok? Without the expansion where would we be right now? 15 parties crammed into sky for 2k/hour?
 
now this is off topic but I want to know what is up with some of the lower level parties now mind you this did not happend in the new area it was in CN on the cofffer bettles. I went down there when I think I was 71 or 72 on smn to skill my staff up some and get alittle exp well doing it. There was one party camping the bettles so I run to the back side between the bettles and the scorps. And start pulling one bettle at a time with carby not doing any high level bp on them. taking my time killing them and trying to get as many skillups as I can. When I get a tell from some ass in the party saying that I am stealing all the mobs and they are calling a GM on me WTF. I get this tell and look theres 3 unclammed bettles in the room I am fighting one. It takes me about 5 minutes to kill it. And they freaking called a GM on me the GM was cool and did not tell me to leave or anything but dam. And if there where no bettles I would not take the first pop I want for the party to get one then take one. No offince to the bst but hell it not like I was a bst taking 2 mobs at a time one as pet and one to kill.
 
Firestreak said:
People just have to get over it and relax, I think. So 2 parties make 10k instead of 1 party making 12k... grow up, ok? Without the expansion where would we be right now? 15 parties crammed into sky for 2k/hour?
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lol. You hit the nail on the head. That's the problem, I would be perfectly happy with 2 parties making 10k an hour, maybe 3 with 8k an hour. But, that's not it. Earlier today there was 94 people exping in the Mire today. 94. That's way more then 2 parties. I'm not arguing that there shouldn't be any new areas or anything. That must have been missunderstood by you. I like the new areas. I like new content. I'm just saying people need to use search for existing parties before they move in, all 10 of them into a zone made for half that.

If I should grow up for asking people to use common sense, then oh well. lol. Go where it's not crowded. Competition is fine. Competition is trying to outpull the party next to you. But, it's more like trying to win the lottery jackpot to claim a mob when you are against 6 other parties. That's beyond competition.

I'm not complaining about the Mire, or any other area in specific. Don't missunderstand me. I'm aggrovated no one wants to go anywhere else but those areas. If you /search an area, and there are 5+ parties there already, chances are it's very full. For instance, I started a party last night, they wanted Puks. I told them it was full, because there were 6 parties there already. I told them we could fight spiders right inside the mamook zone from the runic portal entrance to where those Puks are. I had a party there right before I tried to make this one, and we were getting roughly 8.5k exp an hour. It was completely open. So, what's the problem with that?

Also, I'm not complaining about not getting "oh my god!" chains and 15k exp an hour. I'm complaining about no one using search and wrecking existing parties exp. I'm fine getting average exp. lol. 6k an hour would be great, but good luck anymore. If there are established camps, and the zone is packed full as it is. Why would you want to go in there with 2 more parties and overfill the zone? Seriously. You made the comparison Firestreak, 15 partys in sky? It's 15 parties in the Mire sometimes. That's what I'm complaining about.

There's plenty of camps for everyone in the game, so why is everyone flocking to the same places? lol. Sky might be old, but it's still there. A week or so ago, I camped up there. There was no one else, at all, for almost 8 hours. They still exist, and that is my point. Search an area, if it's full, there are many other options other then going and joining the 5 other parties headed there to try to muscle others out.
 
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I guess there are just 2 ends to the spectrum. The end where people want to sit in the best camp and complain they don't have it to themselves, and the people who want to cram themselves in to the point they're getting less exp than they'd get somewhere else.

And of course the people that cram themselves in and act like the biggest assholes possible...
 
Firestreak said:
I guess there are just 2 ends to the spectrum. The end where people want to sit in the best camp and complain they don't have it to themselves.
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If that was directed at me, I just finished saying how I didn't mind exping anywhere, just no where that is packed completely full. There are no "perfect" camps. lol. They are determined by party skill and setup.
 
Here's my favorite part, most people that complain about 10 parties trying to pack into mire were in the 8th party to arrive, and are complaining about the parties that arrived after them. Take a stand, when your party insists on going to that overcrowded zone tell them you won't go.

SE screwed up a few things in the expansion areas, you can't search and know how many exp parties there are in a zone for sure. When you search mire, you also get people prepping for assault in 2 different staging points, as well as people traveling through for missions or other various reasons. There's also a handful of camps spread out pretty damn far apart, so even if you did know who all was there for exp, you would need to check several search comments or send several tells to konw which camps were available.
 
Mikomi said:
This obsession with new areas is unbelievable. Especially from those people who refuse to exp anywhere but the new areas, even though they are completely packed. I've made several parties in the last week where I have had members flat out leave because I refused to go to a new area after having searched and found 6 parties in a 2 party area. Sorry, but I would rather not have 2k exp an hour, to sit in a new area when I could go exp in, say, Kuftal Tunnel, Bibiki Bay, Uleguerand Range or even Sky and get full chains.
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Whenever I am in a lv 70's party and the word Bibiki Bay comes up I see nothing but "No thanks" from other party members who have been spoilt on fast easy exp in Cadevera Mire. I once went to Lufuse Meadows and merited there on Rams and Birds exp was great and being a cop area it was nice and peaceful. People are lazy they want their exp fast and furious and they dont want to walk far to get it either.
 
Well guess people's lazyness and Lack of common sence sums up good, and yes I experienced (still am experiencing) these things quite often. On exp party I rather want to go kill Toughs-Vtoughs endlessly rather than having to stare at 3 pullers from different groups for the first mob to pop on a very nice exp per mob areas.

Other things that happens on groups that annoyed me are the lack of group configuration common sence. (5melee 1 whm trying to do ITs? please... haven't you had enough of that in the dunes or have you lived through PLing /sigh)

Could make another essay about this but enough for derailing.
 
Jeska said:
Whenever I am in a lv 70's party and the word Bibiki Bay comes up I see nothing but "No thanks" from other party members who have been spoilt on fast easy exp in Cadevera Mire. I once went to Lufuse Meadows and merited there on Rams and Birds exp was great and being a cop area it was nice and peaceful. People are lazy they want their exp fast and furious and they dont want to walk far to get it either.
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I agree, it just shows ignorance among other things when party member's won't go to Bibiki Bay or older zones. I actually stopped xping on SMN for the simple fact, I was tired of The lolmire. Had a pt was going to the mire, I searched, there is about 70ish people in the zone, 90% of this number are lv.70's. I stated this fact and the leader had this intellegent comment to say.

"It's ok, I've xp'ed w/ 90 people in the zone and the XP was still really great :D." <~ Dumbest thing I've ever heard!! To my dismay, we got there, grabbed a camp, and pulled flies for chain 2-3 tops, equaling to about 2k/hr xp.
 
thesse new areas have really changed things. my GF & try to lvl our 73 jobs together, her blm and my smn, but it hard to make a party that a blm and a smn can be in together cause i keep running into the melee burn fanatics. and yes the crowdedness of the mire and such makes me sick.

but on another note it has a positive side. us non spoiled players dont have to worry that much when we go to the more traditional exp zones.
 
Selph said:
I agree, it just shows ignorance among other things when party member's won't go to Bibiki Bay or older zones. I actually stopped xping on SMN for the simple fact, I was tired of The lolmire.
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QFT. i hated the few times my smn went there for exp cause that zone basicly rerduced me to a WHM. i didnt wanna risk getting to close to the imps to use my BP's by the melee & tank. >.< insomnia (No Thanks)
 
Zaltana said:
QFT. i hated the few times my smn went there for exp cause that zone basicly rerduced me to a WHM. i didnt wanna risk getting to close to the imps to use my BP's by the melee & tank. >.< insomnia (No Thanks)
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OMG! lol I know the feeling, everything I'd move in to give Hastega or Lunar Cry I'd get hit w/ Amnesia >< and be stuck with a avatar when I could use that time to rest...
 
not just the NA players that do this either, lol, last night was in a PT w/ Mikome */cheer brd pet gogo! >.>;* and 3/6 members was JP in our pt, really odd setup too, blm, blm, war, war, rng, brd lol.... but we were doing great and those guys were really awesome, chain 6+... for 2hrs or so.... other pt moved into the back corner, and another moved in right next to us, *already 2 other pt's there*... lol...... so our xp dropped from a little over 9k xp/hr *when we first got there the zone was empty cept' for 1 other party* to about 3k xp/hr *packed with 6 parties, 3 upper area, 3 back dead end area of the mire*... miko kept grabbing mobs, but i know for a fact there wasn't anything left for the other guys to get more then a chain 1-2... tops....

lol wth is wrong w/ everyone? there some kinda stupid-virus going around? lol if ya'll need a good camp, theres a great one that takes about 5 min of running and a silver coin..... runic portal to Mire > Alzadaal Undersea Ruins > back part of the Mire... fight those Soulflay(sp?) squid lookin guys *who look like they came from FFT...o.O..* and Imps /nod you can also grab the new runic portal thru the ruins while ur at it, making it a snap to get to that camp w/out using a silver coin ^^

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Zaltana said:
QFT. i hated the few times my smn went there for exp cause that zone basicly rerduced me to a WHM. i didnt wanna risk getting to close to the imps to use my BP's by the melee & tank. >.< insomnia (No Thanks)
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Hmmm I have had some of the best exp parties on smn in this zone most times I would end up being main puller using carby to line the mobs up for the party to kill. and if I was not pulling at that time I use garuda 70 bp and most time take off of 1/2 the imps life or 3/4 if the life if the imp.
 
The party crowds have gotten so bad that I just start EXPing on my 75 jobs early in the morning when I dont have to work, during the few hours that NO one is barely on in certain zones. That's like the only way I can get decent flow of exp/merits sometimes. I especially like parties where the leader knows more than one camping spot in the zone, usually where no really goes to EXP the mobs (i.e. Killing Lamia @ Dvucca, or Treants, to name one).

Things got so bad I found myself lvling other jobs just to get away from the new areas to a degree. Though I like the new areas some ppl act very anal about some mobs. AS for shout wars about mobs, this might be a little harsh but if you cant pull fast enough then shut the fuck up. That's just being honest, however it's different if you're being camped on top of on purpose. Then its on bitches.

Zal I wanna slap you XD. SMN isnt the only job that sometimes gets turned into a WHM. My RDM/WHM has had its moments (consecutive parties) of main healing. I'm lucky to get my SMN into a EXP party. If I main heal hell I do not care, but that's just me. [Carbuncle][Assualt][Healing Ruby II] (from a distance and keep all melee alive without using Curaga II]

Overgrazing EXP areas sucks.

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Davion said:
Zal I wanna slap you XD. SMN isnt the only job that sometimes gets turned into a WHM. My RDM/WHM has had its moments (consecutive parties) of main healing. I'm lucky to get my SMN into a EXP party. If I main heal hell I do not care, but that's just me. [Carbuncle][Assualt][Healing Ruby II] (from a distance and keep all melee alive without using Curaga II]

Overgrazing EXP areas sucks.

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you cant slap me. im unslapabble. :ph34r:

but u know full well that i'm able to main heal and buff my party fluently. those imps put a damn stopper into my rythem.

and on a note about rdm main healing. i've been running across with rdm's with undercapped magic skills lately and the excuse i get is, "im always called upon to main heal. so i dont have time to cast other stuff." im guessin this is cause the lower new players see rdm's main healing in upper lvls and think that it a common practice all through the game. the concept of merrit parties hasnt hit them fully yet i guess. maybe im just old school, and i was invited 90% of the time to do a rdm's job not whm's, but i made it a priority to never leave my primary skills uncapped when i lvled. has the whm population droped drasticly or are new kids getting the wrong message from endgamers?
 
Dagoat said:
Hmmm I have had some of the best exp parties on smn in this zone most times I would end up being main puller using carby to line the mobs up for the party to kill. and if I was not pulling at that time I use garuda 70 bp and most time take off of 1/2 the imps life or 3/4 if the life if the imp.
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i dont try to DD like that in exp parties. just my personal preferance. if the party wants me to i will but its not my first impulse. and yes i know how much hurt the 70bp's put on the imps. provided the lil shits dont use insomnia right before i hit the commands.
 
I've gotten so sick of the over populating of ToAU, I've resorted back to places like bibiki bay, and I get better exp D:

If I make a pt on my 66 RNG, I'm more then likely going to Bibiki Bay cause it's constantly empty. I can run an 8k/hr exp pt on my RNG there pretty easily. zomg, 100 ISP for a coin or a quick and yer on chocobo there! It's so easy ; ;
 
Kypdurrondragoon said:
I've gotten so sick of the over populating of ToAU, I've resorted back to places like bibiki bay, and I get better exp D:

If I make a pt on my 66 RNG, I'm more then likely going to Bibiki Bay cause it's constantly empty. I can run an 8k/hr exp pt on my RNG there pretty easily. zomg, 100 ISP for a coin or a quick and yer on chocobo there! It's so easy ; ;
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I agree with you there. I went to Bibiki Bay just a little while ago to Raise III a friend and that place was ghost town. Maybe one BST soloing but that was it.
 
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