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[Nycon]

Had to lol at ahands. You must be farly new to sky if you dont have a hands I have zenith mits and a. abj hands in case I ever go for a -1. Most people in god shells should have a hands. With how long ulli has been a pain most byakko drops will probably be what most ls will be missing. That and whatever their pain in the ass kirin drop is (I would guess w. legs for most ls).

I think I've seen about 15-20 Genbu's killed, and I've never seen Ahands drop.(I know, 15-20 isn't alot, just saying it can be rare.)

 

[duncanrun]

I think I've seen about 15-20 Genbu's killed, and I've never seen Ahands drop.(I know, 15-20 isn't alot, just saying it can be rare.)

Ive seen 8 in a row drop so you guys must be really unlucky but Im guessing most ls in sky have killed hundreds of genbus. You are in summoners LS I believe you are new so mabye you havent seen as many. Congrats on the kirin kill btw after byakko and MG I was doubting but seems you guys are getting the hang of it.

 

[hellstorm]

Had to lol at ahands. You must be farly new to sky if you dont have a hands I have zenith mits and a. abj hands in case I ever go for a -1. Most people in god shells should have a hands. With how long ulli has been a pain most byakko drops will probably be what most ls will be missing. That and whatever their pain in the ass kirin drop is (I would guess w. legs for most ls).

I do, I have everything from sky including kirin osode and crimson legs(only thing I'm missing are byakko pants), but not everyone has been in sky for over a year and a half. See you are all looking at it from the prospective of veteran players. You also need to look at it from prospective of the newbie players. Just because you and I have A. hands does not mean everyone has.

 

[duncanrun]

I do, I have everything from sky including kirin osode and crimson legs(only thing I'm missing are byakko pants), but not everyone has been in sky for over a year and a half. See you are all looking at it from the prospective of veteran players. You also need to look at it from prospective of the newbie players. Just because you and I have A. hands does not mean everyone has.

Most LS are vets. Your argument is about Zip becoming the bottle neck because of the lack of a hands you need to look at it from both sides. Most ls are vets and will have everything they could possible want from Genbu. They will probably be killing him for gil drops and his seal.

 

[Nycon]

Ive seen 8 in a row drop so you guys must be really unlucky but Im guessing most ls in sky have killed hundreds of genbus. You are in summoners LS I believe you are new so mabye you havent seen as many. Congrats on the kirin kill btw after byakko and MG I was doubting but seems you guys are getting the hang of it.

Yea, I am relativly new to sky..lol. Have about a month or 2 of experiance. I was in Summoners LS, but I had to move on from Resurrection. That was awesome when we killed Kirin, it was a big accomplishment for that shell. I've moved on to SE, and I hope to be with them for a long long time. ^^

Totally agree that most veteran LS have probably killed hundreds of Genbu's so the rate on Ahands is probably alot better with that many kills. I've only seen 1 Mhands drop off Genbu in those 15-20 too, luckily, I was up for them. ^^

 

[duncanrun]

Yea, I am relativly new to sky..lol. Have about a month or 2 of experiance. I was in Summoners LS, but I had to move on from Resurrection. That was awesome when we killed Kirin, it was a big accomplishment for that shell. I've moved on to SE, and I hope to be with them for a long long time. ^^

Totally agree that most veteran LS have probably killed hundreds of Genbu's so the rate on Ahands is probably alot better with that many kills. I've only seen 1 Mhands drop off Genbu in those 15-20 too, luckily, I was up for them. ^^

Glad to see your out of that LS you didn't really seem to fit. No more byakko and mother globe wipes for you. Hope you see better drops on things like w.legs(go pld).

 

[Nycon]

Glad to see your out of that LS you didn't really seem to fit. No more byakko and mother globe wipes for you. Hope you see better drops on things like w.legs(go pld).

Thank you. :biggrin:

 

[hellstorm]

Most LS are vets. Your argument is about Zip becoming the bottle neck because of the lack of a hands you need to look at it from both sides. Most ls are vets and will have everything they could possible want from Genbu. They will probably be killing him for gil drops and his seal.

you still going to get new members at some point are you not, and 8 A.hands in a row is extremely lucky. I have seen ls go 0/10 without A. hands.

 

[Blazeoffury]

you still going to get new members at some point are you not, and 8 A.hands in a row is extremely lucky. I have seen ls go 0/10 without A. hands.

New members to a vet LS aren't the majority, a majority of the LS will have said item. Sure the new member may need them, but the LS cannot go out of its way to get them the item until they have proven themselves worthy of even the effort of trying to get the pop items for said god to get said item.

 

[Bajaratt]

A hands aren't really an important item anyways. The only job that really "needs" them is black mage and there are comparable alternatives which are really easy to get. The reason why Byakko was a bottle neck is because the pop items were rare, not because everyone wanted the haidate; this is not the case with genbu, so he is not going to be a bottleneck. The pop items are going to be much easier to get than the seiryu ones, as Mish already explained(while correctly using the term bottle neck); the rarity of a certain drop is a non-issue.

 

[summoners]

Mg is piece of cake, we took mg like easier than before ... that time wasn't enough members up..and yea we have killed mg with 9 people before and it was not wipe or anyone end up dead... well, that was then but now is better. We currently holding at least 4mg and 3summerstone..

 

[hellstorm]

A hands aren't really an important item anyways. The only job that really "needs" them is black mage and there are comparable alternatives which are really easy to get. The reason why Byakko was a bottle neck is because the pop items were rare, not because everyone wanted the haidate; this is not the case with genbu, so he is not going to be a bottleneck. The pop items are going to be much easier to get than the seiryu ones, as Mish already explained(while correctly using the term bottle neck); the rarity of a certain drop is a non-issue.

nah mg in 1 room and is up majority of time due to it secluded location. zip has much larger spawn area and is pretty much make him a luck pop. since people are the the killing stones alot zip dies soon as he pop, to whom ever it pop closest to. Granted you say there alot genbu seals floating around but I'm sure newer shells don't have that many, and I'm sure your shell will run out soon enough.

 

[Romper]

Why are we failing to bring up the fact that last night at despot Moonkissme Resurrection SkyWorld(I Think maybe called PerfectSkyWorld) Divinity and Fury we're all at Despot at the same time. In general there are too many shells in sky farming and popping. That is the biggest problem is people are making sky shells just to make a sky shell. I think they're doing that because they simply want to over-step working in an established shell for their gear.

 

[Bajaratt]

nah mg in 1 room and is up majority of time due to it secluded location. zip has much larger spawn area and is pretty much make him a luck pop. since people are the the killing stones alot zip dies soon as he pop, to whom ever it pop closest to. Granted you say there alot genbu seals floating around but I'm sure newer shells don't have that many, and I'm sure your shell will run out soon enough.

So it's killed, every time it spawns it's killed; how is that a bottleneck? It's a fairly quick spawning NM, the fact that it's killed so many times in a day means that a lot of people can get the pop item from him. If MG takes longer to spawn, that means fewer per day can be killed, and therefore the number of MG stones will be the limiting factor in how many kirins could possibly be done.

Why are we failing to bring up the fact that last night at despot Moonkissme Resurrection SkyWorld(I Think maybe called PerfectSkyWorld) Divinity and Fury we're all at Despot at the same time. In general there are too many shells in sky farming and popping. That is the biggest problem is people are making sky shells just to make a sky shell. I think they're doing that because they simply want to over-step working in an established shell for their gear.

Sadly that's been going on for years. You get someone who doesn't want to wait a couple months to actually earn their gear in a good, established linkshell; so they make their own sky linkshell and recruit a bunch of new endgamers. They do sky for a couple months, maybe even kill a few gods with the pop items they get(while often wiping and wasting the pop items) and then the linkshell breaks and it starts all over again.

 

[summoners]

Don't know but Resurrection LS goals are to expand to land and sea.
Even though I might have my gears but I still put hard effort towards all my members to maintain what we are here for. It will be long before we finish sky.
Most members still need byakko's pants and body gears. Any other sky LS willing to work with us or willing to be partnership are welcome. For exchange we will be fairly trade for what necessary that other LS need help on.

 

[Nycon]

Sky was crazy yesterday during the day. GM got called on the RMT shell up there. Of course, nothing happened and RMT still got claim on Despot.

Good times. My first GM sighting.

 

[pakomen]

A hands aren't really an important item anyways. The only job that really "needs" them is black mage and there are comparable alternatives which are really easy to get.

LOL....

Hay guys check out my leet yigit gloves! /sarcasm

No, A.hands are really quite important. If only for your blms. Which, it seems, most LS's still regularly use.

Don't encourage blm's to be gimp. Get your a.hands. Every blm needs green gloves.

 

[K. Ishitar]

I haven't been up in sky for quite sometime now so I am not sure how to compare to RMT now versus say like a year ago. However, I have heard some horror stories such as RMT camping on the god popping islands and stealing the NM or waiting for the alliance to wipe and then take the mob and sell the drops. Not sure however what actions SE is going to take against the sky RMT this time.

Dear Players

new update: players can now pop unclaimed Gods such as kirin, byakko, suzaku, seiryu, and genbu at 17 random ??? with rock salt

love, SE

 

[Bajaratt]

LOL....

Hay guys check out my leet yigit gloves! /sarcasm

No, A.hands are really quite important. If only for your blms. Which, it seems, most LS's still regularly use.

Don't encourage blm's to be gimp. Get your a.hands. Every blm needs green gloves.

IS your blm not going to be able to do any damage without A hands? No. You'll do slightly less, but on big things, from what I keep hearing from blm's you'd wear either AF(or AF+1) gloves for the skill or relic gloves when you're doing a magic burst most of the time. Or there's the Igquira/genie hands, which have a balance to both. There are comparable choices, just because Yigit isn't the best of them(although it is decent and easy to get) doesn't mean they don't exist.

Also, at no time did I say that A. hands were worthless, I just said they're not really needed, which they aren't. The whole point was hellstorm saying that getting A. hands would become the new bottleneck to sky, which is completely wrong. A. hands are really only good for black mages, every other job has better hand gear, unless your rdm goes nuking.

Good piece, yes, necessary, no.

 

[hellstorm]

IS your blm not going to be able to do any damage without A hands? No. You'll do slightly less, but on big things, from what I keep hearing from blm's you'd wear either AF(or AF+1) gloves for the skill or relic gloves when you're doing a magic burst most of the time. Or there's the Igquira/genie hands, which have a balance to both. There are comparable choices, just because Yigit isn't the best of them(although it is decent and easy to get) doesn't mean they don't exist.

Also, at no time did I say that A. hands were worthless, I just said they're not really needed, which they aren't. The whole point was hellstorm saying that getting A. hands would become the new bottleneck to sky, which is completely wrong. A. hands are really only good for black mages, every other job has better hand gear, unless your rdm goes nuking.

Good piece, yes, necessary, no.

there is not a piece in sky that is "necessary" every piece has a near as good gear as there sky counter parts.

As for the zip and mg issue, for a single ls which would be easier to get zip or mg? chances are are you can get mg unless you had 3-4 shells up there at one time which hardly ever happens. ZIp it much harder to obtain because there are always atleast 2-3 ls there. It may pop more, but I be willing to bet your ls will most likely get more mg then they will zips.