SMN Burns flameboard style

In addition to what Shirai said you still have to share camp with other people usually. You usually can't hold the zone for your self for hours. So yeah its not nearly as godly as most people think it is. It takes time to pull, it takes time to find people, it takes time to get 2hr back, it takes time to do the actually astral flow and thundersparks with huge pulls. Also, if anything goes wrong then you pretty much lose all the time you worked for, like someone killing your mobs, a smn or lvl sync dieing ect ect.
 
for some reason when i diamond dust a mob in burns i get aggro. what did i do wrong? from what I've heard it makes no sense that crap starts attacking me. It lost me a ton of exp when it happened since i was the synch at the time.
 
You might have activated Astral Flow itself while being to close to the mobs, that creates a good portion of hate, even Summoning Shiva to close creates hate I believe. Try standing further back (30 yalms at least I think) from the holder when using Ether's, using Astral Flow or summoning your Avatar.
 
If done right the only mob on which the summoners should have hate accumulated is the mob that is used to Astral Flow on, all other mobs getting hit by Astral Flow only have hate on the avatar because no direct action is taken against those mobs by any of the summoners.
Any action you do before flowing should not generate any enmity unless you already had some enmity accumulated.
For example if you have been pulling your accumulated enmity does not disappear upon zoning.
Using Astral Flow or even a Blood pact can be just enough to turn a mob's attention to you instead of the tanker.

Another thing that might screw the burn is the tank not having enough hate on the designated Astral flow mob.
This will make the mob go to the people that flowed it instead of going back to the tanker.

The last thing I can think of is that you picked the wrong target to Astral flow.
 
Some people SMN burn differently, when we SMN burn there is no designated mob to Astral Flow on, you just run in with your Avatar target any mob there and BP. I've heard of having a designated mob that has been CFH'd, never tried it though.
 
Hobobob said:
I've heard of having a designated mob that has been CFH'd, never tried it though.
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It's how we used to do it.
Pull a gigas or the spider NM, have the tanker build a little extra hate on it and call for help.
Picking random mobs works, but you keep the risk that if the tanker doesn't have enough enmity on it you end up being desert when your avatar dies.

In a high lag situation I rather not move around too much, just face the wall in first person mode and have the same mob targeted to flow at all times, that and being able to use Hi-Ethers and drinks and /heal right beside the flock without pulling hate.
(150+ mobs in one spot lags even the best computersystems unless you play FFXI in Lego style.)

But as you say, everyone does it differently.
 
Quetz sucks for smn burning seriously
 
that designated mob thing must have been it since i did everything else too far out of range for the emnity shift to me.
 
If you dont hate whatever server you're on you're not cool
 
Arthur said:
How does it suck?
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There is many more people who do it here then most places I have been so the sharing zone thing has slowed down the ability to gain exp as fast here.

Khajit said:
If you dont hate whatever server you're on you're not cool
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I like quetz khajit you know this ; ;
 
that doesn't mean you cant complain about it. an tbh I hear so much complaints about whatever server a person is on that i immediately dismiss it as a habit instead of any actual gripes or that all servers are equally crappy, We just didn't visit all of them yet.
 
Sevv said:
There is many more people who do it here then most places I have been so the sharing zone thing has slowed down the ability to gain exp as fast here.
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Yess cause sharing sucks alot, just like dynamis.....
 
I guess i better talk to Miros about the feasibility of a K. Tunnel Scheduling board for summoner burns.
























Hahaha. Hopefully i had someone going there.
 
Sevv said:
Quetz sucks for smn burning seriously
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I'm sure it's gotten worse across servers. We weren't that bad for the longest time but it's caught on enough to create congestion. Most likely it's the same everywhere.
 
/sigh, no one follows the rules anymore.
 
Nicholette said:
I'm sure it's gotten worse across servers. We weren't that bad for the longest time but it's caught on enough to create congestion. Most likely it's the same everywhere.
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Well it can differ per server.
Back on Titan there were pretty much only two groups that got smn burning done with good results.
Ours was one of them, and as we were EU and the other group was a NA group we didn't get in each other's way too much.

There occasionally were some random groups trying but those usually quit pretty quick.

Here on Midgar however I occasionally see a group doing it, but K-tunnel usually is empty aside from the random person farming.
 
PEOPLE. USe shift to type in all caps? USE CAPS LOCK!
 
i don't really like KT that much for summoner burning i want to try to get people to try different place to see if there is a higher lvl area maybe or a different zone that you can summoner burn at to get same or higher xp as it stands now people in KT start to hog or some times Aoe the mobs because they can i know a few people from a certain LS has aoe my mobs im not point fingers or anything but i want to just be able to get summoners together and try other places in hopes of better xp like i was thinking a 30 cap area for it or a 20 area there has to be other areas out there
 
I know buburimu works, Dhalmels, Crawlers, Gobs. Never done KT myself, only done buburimu.


Also any SMN Burns going on that want another SMN my SMN needs to hit 37 its at 30 right now, id be happy to lend my 2 HR In
 
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