So I've finally had enough (rant)

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Fellina

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Leeches- I'm sure you all know, or knew of someone, who's got one of these in their circle of friends, or their linkshell. The guys who want everything for themselves, and will beg, plead, swindle, or con anyone they can to get it. I had one on my back for a long time, and last night I finally had enough.

I've known this guy since early in the PS2 release, and helped him since he was a little newblet. I've had some problems with him in the past, but being a fairly laid-back person, and taking into account that he's still a kid (like 14 years old) I managed to keep my cool, and eventually make him see some sense, lol. He seemed to be shaping up OK- whereas when he first started he was begging left and right, he'd now actually started to put real value on that gil, and even told my husband "It's time I start farming for myself, I can't mooch like that anymore". (Or something to that extent).

So anyway, this guy had spent a few weeks pissing and moaning about getting SMN, his ultimate dream job. First it was hitting 30, then getting the ruby, then getting Fire element; whatever roadblock he hit, he would complain about, and beg for help in whatever way he could. (The Fire one was the funniest- I eventually had to tell him look- I may be knowledgeable, but that doesn't mean I can control the weather, lol). When he finally got SMN, I breathed a sigh of relief, thinking maybe now he'd settle down and just play already. Boy, was I wrong.

Now that he had his dream job, he wants Rank 5 for airship pass. He starts bugging me about killing the dragon for rank 3- I tell him I'll help if I can, but I'm busy a lot these days. (Moving in 1 week, husband has new job in another state, etc.)

So last night I log in, having a pre-arranged date to get rank 4 with 3 others from my linkshell. My little buddy sends me a tell, saying that he's now on mission 3-3. I respond "heh, I'm doing the same", and naturally he asks if he can tag along. I consult with the link briefly, they say it's OK (mind you they all knew him too, he'd actually been invited to the link a few weeks prior, so it's not like they didn't know what he was like) so he's invited to come along. "Oh, I still need to talk with the Sibyl" OK, fine, just get to Jeuno already.

We wait for an hour for my leeching friend to finally get to the Tower and join up with us. And when he does show up, it's as a lvl 29 BLM with NO EQUIPMENT. Actually, that's not entirely accurate- he had a freesword's staff, and a bronze moogle belt. That was IT. His excuse? "Well, I de-leveled getting SMN, and I don't want to play any job but that, but it's only at 13". Apparently he'd also sold all his BLM stuff, because "SMN is a different job, so I need diferent equipment" >.<

So we start making our way into the tower- we haven't even gotten halfway through the first floor when he gets aggro because he took off before invis was fully on. So what does he do? HE KEEPS RUNNING! Shouting "help" over /p. It took the whole group to put down the train he'd made, and even though they were all easy/weak for us, there were so many of them he'd rounded up that our lvl 58(!) WHM almost died. So, we all rest, WHM raises the now-dead naked Taru (warning him that next time he does that he'll be left dead), reraises himself, and we continue on.

A trip that should have taken us an hour, tops, to get up the tower took us three, all because of this naked Taru BLM. Then, at the end, he has the absolute balls to ask for us to help him do the Rank 5 missions too. Yes, because that's just what we want to do- hold your hand through everything.

I'm being a lot nicer than I should be, actually- last night was so bad, that the WHM (also our LS leader) even declared that if this Taru ever showed up on our link again he'd break the guy's pearl. I'm not going to name names, because deep down, I still have that glimmer of hope that maybe, someday, he'll realize what an ass he's been. However, I'm not willing to put myself through any more aggravation waiting for that time to come.

My advice to all you- if you have that "friend" or fellow link member that alwasy needs help with EVERYTHING, especially quests and missions, beware. They may end up riding your back all the way through Rank 5, AF, and everything they can, if you let them. It's one thing to be nice, but don't be so nice it turns you into a chump- once you get into that role, it's tough to get out again.
 
Wow. Sorry to hear about your misfortune. You sound like a really nice person and the type this game needs more of. Have you ever tried to blacklist your leech friend. Hate to see Bad players run off the good ones.
 
Maybe he just likes you a lot Fellina, you know, a boy during puberty and all ..., you are like his one and only love and he can't get close to you other than begging for your help whenever he is online. ;)
 
dont lose hope, lol.....this story sounds a lot similar to...umm...well....*cough*..me. I used to bitch to high hell about everything, Im not gonna go into examples form my EQ days cuz thats when i started my first mmorpg, but i was also around his age...15 about. It'll take a while for him to shape up, but what he may need is a good confrontation and an ingame mentor, or at least someone to look up to. For me, i was confronted by one of my guild officers who sat me down and we had a "talk", but that game became the person I wasted to emulate in game. This guy was also a druid and one of the more wellknown ones and better ones on the server....maybe if u guys have a similar class...whm or another summoner who can get to know him? Its both a case of n00bness and immaturity...he'll shape up....just watch.....eta is unknown...=p.
 
Pseulen said:
Pseulen said:
but that game became the person I wasted to emulate in game.

err....game=guy and wasted=wanted....=p.
brought back fond memories that got you excited all over again, didn't it .. ;)
 
Pseulen said:
Pseulen said:
but that game became the person I wasted to emulate in game.

err....game=guy and wasted=wanted....=p.

You wanted to "emulate" in a guy? nice to see you coming out of the closet, albiet in a strange way :lol: :P
 
Thankless little bastard! LOL

There are far to many people like that running around.
A lot of them don't even know you and just run around asking for gil or crystals, etc.
Of course I like helping people out, and I do in many ways, but I don't walk around just giving people money or armor or crystals for nothing.
I have my own trials to overcome as well. Everyone needs to figure it out for themselves. I am happy to offer advice in place of handouts. :lol:
 
I usually only help guys I know, or if I'm in the area (farming in gid) I'll help then.
 
ur a comedian Krius......har....har.......haruh. (notice the sarcasm) :wink:
 
Krius, you sicko :P
 
I have somthing of a big problem with people that beg for handouts in the gil/item department. There are occasions where i'll lend a helping hand with such things. However, lately, its gotten so that if im browsing the AH in sandoria i'll start getting random tells from total strangers that go somthing like this:
Randomxxx: "Hey."
Me: "Hello!"
Randomxxx: "I have xxxx gils, and i need to get itemX, can you give me some money?"
Me: "@#$@@!"
/blist add Randomxxx

now mind you, i tend to only /blist the total strangers that beg like this.
many times ive had people ask for stuff and took the time to explain to them that many people find such requests in poor taste. Tell them about many ways to make gil for their level. theres always a way, gils are so easy to make in this game at most any level. you only really run into roadblocks at the 1,000,000 amounts, as it takes a while to accumulate such sums unless you have some craft over 70 or get pretty lucky camping a big ticket NM.
I dont mind helping out with requests for missions, or af's or things of this nature. But from my thought on it, if I just hand over gil/items to people that seem to make a habbit of begging it, they will never learn to do for themselves. and im a big fan of self-reliance. ^^;
~Syn
 
Hmmm ok here is my dilemma...I have recieved a lot of help from my LS, namely the 3 higher level than me member. They have done almost everything for me....RSE, Ranks...actually come to think of it, thats it. Well they, or really one has been extremely helpful. Many times i have exclaimed how badly i felt for being such a leech and they alwasy say NP we like helping etc...

So now im almost caught up...im 5 levels down from them. Well i have this new nifty ability on my THF called TH2. Now i have absolutely NO problem helping them. Ill camp NM all they want cause i like hanging with them...im usually alone...I dont recall EVER asking for gil, from anyone. I have asked for help camping once i think. But since i hit like 25 i camp alone. Better profits and self-reliance. So now im at the point where ive camped emperor 4 times and got drop 3, ive done BCNM, ive farmed for weeks on end, ive busted my butt to get the best gear i can have almost. Im talking the middle pricey stuff, not millions, but like Hairpin, Leaping Boots, dual Deft Rings, dual Drone Earrings, AF before or as soon as i can get it, best arrows i can buy, chiefkabobs, etc...I feel good knowing ive got all this on my own.

So here is the thing, i realize i owe my LS big, but now im getting requests that i BUY them 150-200k items. At first i was like "umm....ok i guess." I mean ive got the money, i do owe them. But after comign here, maybe that is not the route. Perhaps i shoudl help them earn the money rather than buy the stuff for them. I might be able to earn money faster if i did it myself and bought it for them, but then they woudl just expect it of me. hmmm, what to do....

Well just thought i would write down my thoughts. Sorry my grammar sucks but my comp keeps freezing so im not gonna risk going back to fix it...
 
Key word, they have "helped" you, they didnt "give" you. They helped u attain higher ranks, they helped u quest for armor, they helped u get ur footing until u can go out on ur own with more than enough confidence. That is all you owe ur linkshell in return, the same help u recieved. Youre being taken for a ride here, bro. 150-200k? umm, regardless of whther or not ur a thf...thats still an aceload of money. but thats beside the point...theyre mooching off you....help them farm...thats what you should do.

anon: hey faedryth, can u buy me leaping boots?
Faedryth: wth? are u daffy? hell no.....but ill help u camp lizzy.
anon: cmon, u owe us
Faedryth: and im returning the favor right now...ill see u in (South Gustaberg).
 
Faedryth, I have actually seen you in game camping spook! I even sent a /tell admiring your gear.


Anyways, I wanted to say that it is nice to hear that Hi-lvl THF's have no problem making $$- cause at 18- I'm broke :(
 
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