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[jamal]

man what the hell, falsifying info much? I never "bought" any of the hacks i had, i would never pay for a tool so easily obtainable or created. I got every single item i had for free, and if it costed money i modified it so it worked without having to pay for it.
Me and proph got along just fine, The only problem we ever had was when i ruined his relic run in dynamis by pulling a leroy on the animated shield with flee tool because kireek and deathchild dared me to, He was very angry about the millions of gil he put into it for me to ruin it, but he forgave me the next day and all was cool. Tho i still assumed he was bitter towards me from then on out, me and proph got along and we never held blackmail on each other, we didnt even worry that we both knew we hacked, i dont think it ever came up once that we were worried about anyone in the shell breakin our secret period.
And when did i "slightly" alter any program?! The programs i obtained were usually given out with the original coding in it and nothing altered, the only thing that changed was the offsets after every update and that had nothing to do with me except that no one but me knew how or where to get them.
The only Altered program was FFXIAPP, and that was not done by me period, that was done by the awesome guys over at MMH4X back when it was called FFXIhacked.
also, no, voke botting is not detecting by ping. That would be retarded especially at the laggier camps. There would certainly be alot of innocent bans if that were true. Try more around the lines of rapid text input, because 9 times out of 10 when a bot goes off its spammed voke so fast that its going before the mob even spawns, and rapidly the chat log filles with "No target available" or whatever it was it says when theres nothing there. And if they are really dumb at botting and have a text macro that says "VOKING MOB" like some people in our shell used to have...its painfully obvious that they are botting becuase that macro will spam text so fast...

Then you say i specifically lumped you in with myself, proph, cyrogay and the rest of the hackers, and that was not specifically me, you implemented yourself in the OH hack forum. And you used hacks just as much as us, and you cant say you couldnt tell proph was flee tooling kirin, You were on vent with us most of the time and it wasnt a very down low thing on vent, Proph using the frase "turn on flee tool" came out often, I even had to edit that out of a video i put online when we claimed KB from a wiping shell where you hear him tell kireek to turn on flee tool and run along side it and spam voke. the editing was so flawless in the audio no one noticed any skip where the line was taken out.
Hell, I put the "Chasym pulls a leeroy" video on chasym.org of the moment i leroy'd prophs relic run, and in that video i openly used flee tool and had all the dynamis mobs chasing me but not able to keep up...and not one...single...person. in the 1000's of downloads that file recieved ever noticed or said a word.

Yes, if you flee hack acrossed a zone or POS too fast, the server cannot catch up to you right away so you cannot zone and you have to wait for the server to catch up before you can, it happened all too often.

He also said you were the one sucking up to him in the rap parodies thread. Thanks for clearing up the confusion, this is alot more plausible then the shit he was spewing.

 

[Myrrh]

Qcdn, the untold story. When hackers turn on each other.

 

[XGrayswanderX]

man what the hell, falsifying info much? I never "bought" any of the hacks i had, i would never pay for a tool so easily obtainable or created. I got every single item i had for free, and if it costed money i modified it so it worked without having to pay for it.
Me and proph got along just fine, The only problem we ever had was when i ruined his relic run in dynamis by pulling a leroy on the animated shield with flee tool

Dude say whatever you want, but I think if Proph was asked the same question he'd confirm he and I knew you bought those bots and altered the programs. So don't feed us bullshit. Maybe maybe maybe, u created your own later on, but you definitely used a model. You had your typical moment already, THe Emo Dark knight Exit, Spited by the Dynamis LS, big deal.

So you ruined prophecies Shield NM, Exposed Cyronae by opening "Admin" only section on a private website, how rude, and you carry OHs Chip on your shoulder, that's a story that died when you quit the game a year ago.

Sure you and I and many others, had some good time joking on vent about things. There were times where I actually reconsidered my opinion about you. But you were still a nerd that me and proph hated. I cant count on both hands the times he called you a spineless faggot on Vent. He wouldnt even have anything to do with u in the new LS after his 2 month break or w/e. so, I don't see why you Think you're so liked Chasym.

Maybe you're still on your quest to somehow become a FFXI celebrity.

and Plz no drama, but I cant let you seem like you did anything honorable or had any friends to show for it. Have a good one taking care of your family.

 

[beeznuts]

Dude say whatever you want, but I think if Proph was asked the same question he'd confirm he and I knew you bought those bots and altered the programs. So don't feed us bullshit. Maybe maybe maybe, u created your own later on, but you definitely used a model. You had your typical moment already, THe Emo Dark knight Exit, Spited by the Dynamis LS, big deal.

So you ruined prophecies Shield NM, Exposed Cyronae by opening "Admin" only section on a private website, how rude, and you carry OHs Chip on your shoulder, that's a story that died when you quit the game a year ago.

Sure you and I and many others, had some good time joking on vent about things. There were times where I actually reconsidered my opinion about you. But you were still a nerd that me and proph hated. I cant count on both hands the times he called you a spineless faggot on Vent. He wouldnt even have anything to do with u in the new LS after his 2 month break or w/e. so, I don't see why you Think you're so liked Chasym.

Maybe you're still on your quest to somehow become a FFXI celebrity.

and Plz no drama, but I cant let you seem like you did anything honorable or had any friends to show for it. Have a good one taking care of your family.

I can't stand a damn thing Chasym did, but opening the OH boards was nothing short of hilarious.

That and saying it's "rude" is laughable too. Protip: It's not "rude" to expose things like that. It is however rude to be the one doing it. Sounds like some people got a little butthurt.

 

[XGrayswanderX]

I can't stand a damn thing Chasym did, but opening the OH boards was nothing short of hilarious.

That and saying it's "rude" is laughable too. Protip: It's not "rude" to expose things like that. It is however rude to be the one doing it. Sounds like some people got a little butthurt.

Actually, you're a little off, it wasn't the OH boards that he opened. And yes, it was quite hilarious.

 

[beeznuts]

Actually, you're a little off, it wasn't the OH boards that he opened. And yes, it was quite hilarious.

Eh, it's the same difference, really.

 

[XGrayswanderX]

And I never did any hacking at all outside of La theine. I just joked about it on the forums with people who were doing it.

 

[Kreoss]

And I never did any hacking at all outside of La theine. I just joked about it on the forums with people who were doing it.

No offense and all, sir, but how can we know this to be true?

Once one has admitted to hacking, it is hard to take the hacker's word for it that "Oh, I just did it in Dynamis" or "I just messed around with it to see what it was like." Having admitted to it, yes, you're going to be held to a different standard now, and people are going to watch everything that you do with suspicion and skepticism.

The best way to redeem your reputation isn't to take a hardass stance, but to keep your head down and act with a little humility. And reputation does matter. Hacking is perhaps the worst thing you can do to your reputation in endgame, after all, so instead of bragging about how you cleaned up these shells and such, it might be better if you let things die and worked quietly to rebuild.

The Flameboard in particular has a very long memory.

 

[XGrayswanderX]

No offense and all, sir, but how can we know this to be true?

Once one has admitted to hacking, it is hard to take the hacker's word for it that "Oh, I just did it in Dynamis" or "I just messed around with it to see what it was like." Having admitted to it, yes, you're going to be held to a different standard now, and people are going to watch everything that you do with suspicion and skepticism.

The best way to redeem your reputation isn't to take a hardass stance, but to keep your head down and act with a little humility. And reputation does matter. Hacking is perhaps the worst thing you can do to your reputation in endgame, after all, so instead of bragging about how you cleaned up these shells and such, it might be better if you let things die and worked quietly to rebuild.

The Flameboard in particular has a very long memory.

Well I let it die for a very long time, I have hundreds of friends in FFXI, so really in my own isolated world the fact that i played with flee tool on a chocobo doesnt really hurt my in game experience.

I left it all alone for a good 7 months. But low and behold people still hold hurtful grudges against me, and I still don't really care. It would be preferable to not have unknown enemies, but what can I do now that the paint has drowned people like Chasym and speckled "semi-innocent people like me's Favorite jeans? I do however feel some remorse, If saying im sorry you dislike me" helped the situation, I would say it.

When Jamal decided to make a rap about me, I wasnt offended. In the beginning of his forum there was a bold faced Print heading that Read;

DO NOT TAKE PERSONAL REFERENCES SERIOUSLY. repeated 3x

I mean come on, he whole exchange was humorous anyway. I just had to spit a little fire back at Jamals corner for trying to burn me. Carry on I suppose.

-I also dont know how many more questions I'll answer for people who want to know the "real" truth, before I let this forum resolve itself.

 

[Noninoni]

Qcdn, the untold story. When hackers turn on each other.

lol...!!!

 

[Tymon]

No offense and all, sir, but how can we know this to be true?

Once one has admitted to hacking, it is hard to take the hacker's word for it that "Oh, I just did it in Dynamis" or "I just messed around with it to see what it was like." Having admitted to it, yes, you're going to be held to a different standard now, and people are going to watch everything that you do with suspicion and skepticism.

The best way to redeem your reputation isn't to take a hardass stance, but to keep your head down and act with a little humility. And reputation does matter. Hacking is perhaps the worst thing you can do to your reputation in endgame, after all, so instead of bragging about how you cleaned up these shells and such, it might be better if you let things die and worked quietly to rebuild.

The Flameboard in particular has a very long memory.

it all comes down to personal trust of said person.

if someone you know murdered someone, just one person, you're going to assume he will kill again, and you can never be sure if he will or not

it all comes down to whether or not you believe in and trust that the person in question is telling the truth


personally? I believe him when he says he didn't hack for gain in end game.

but..he certainly isn't coming across that way, and his attitude only hurts his stance.

 

[Tymon]

PS: don't try to come in here and say that this game doesn't have the repercussions of IRL things like murder, because though that is true, some of the people on this board take this game very seriously, and you can see that in vibrant 64 bit color if you read the last few pages of this thread.

 

[Kagemusha]

PS: don't try to come in here and say that this game doesn't have the repercussions of IRL things like murder, because though that is true, some of the people on this board take this game very seriously, and you can see that in vibrant 64 bit color if you read the last few pages of this thread.

{Obligatory "Serious Business" post}.

 

[Chasym]

Dude say whatever you want, but I think if Proph was asked the same question he'd confirm he and I knew you bought those bots and altered the programs. So don't feed us bullshit. Maybe maybe maybe, u created your own later on, but you definitely used a model. You had your typical moment already, THe Emo Dark knight Exit, Spited by the Dynamis LS, big deal.

So you ruined prophecies Shield NM, Exposed Cyronae by opening "Admin" only section on a private website, how rude, and you carry OHs Chip on your shoulder, that's a story that died when you quit the game a year ago.

Sure you and I and many others, had some good time joking on vent about things. There were times where I actually reconsidered my opinion about you. But you were still a nerd that me and proph hated. I cant count on both hands the times he called you a spineless faggot on Vent. He wouldnt even have anything to do with u in the new LS after his 2 month break or w/e. so, I don't see why you Think you're so liked Chasym.

Maybe you're still on your quest to somehow become a FFXI celebrity.

and Plz no drama, but I cant let you seem like you did anything honorable or had any friends to show for it. Have a good one taking care of your family.

ROFL, BS! i have never paid cash for anything, and what the hell do you read anything?! i created my first bot BEFORE mrargus ever came out, it was the first bot i ever owned. It was way before OH was ever my shell, it was back in the atmaweapons, and if excim reads this i know he can confirm that because he knew i was botting stroper chyme with it.
If you wanna believe i paid for hax, then LOL good for you. But the only person i know that bought hacks, besides the list of people who bought FFXI app (hello im not on that list and i had the modified FREE app! i would certainly be on that list had i bought it, since it was the only real pay to use hack)
was prophecy, and i dont even think he used his own money, i think aldiel bought it for him, that 100 dollar program that came out that supposedly was only being given out in limited supply, you dont remember everyone saying they couldnt believe he paid that much for it?it was not until months later that i came acrossed that program for free at ffxihacked that i realized how shitty that program was.
And if the OH story died a long time ago, You wouldnt still be under these players radar as a cheater would you? You only hacked in la theine? Motherfucker PLEASE! you would flee kite tons of the shit we did, why deny it now? why not fess up for it? people already will never stop looking at you as Grayhacker for as long as those who know still play. I dont even play anymore and people will never stop looking at me as a cheater and a hacker and i live with that and dont deny it.
And why now suddenly say i paid for my programs? Would that hurt my image any more? i would think not, it would have the same end result either way, but im not that stupid to pay for something that was readily available at ffxihacked.
The first time i got ahold of argus was on some LS' message board on another server, they got into a fight and someone made a post saying something along the lines of "do you want to see what it is your leaders are really doing?" and posted a download to mrargus. Thats where i got my first copy, it was the second program i ever owned besides my very own fast fingers, and after that i just collected other programs made by other people, i never made my own again because it was too much of a hassle when i had a slew of them for free of charge and free of time.
I had NO model to go off of when i made mine, back then the only hacks i know of were used in the background with F keys and scripts. Mine was a standalone program that worked on top of windower with no keys needed.
And if i even have an FFXI celebrity status, its not through hacking, that doesnt make you a celebrity at all.
My videos and songs are the only thing that leave me credibility for the game and they are still out there as popular as ever without me having to put anything out there at all. My vids are put up on you tube by fans, with 10 thousands for views, even had people make their own flash animations to my songs at newgrounds. Are you jealous gray? Jealous that even though i did the darkest deeds of the game that i could still some how be well known and liked in the game well after i quit, but everyone still gives you shit? Get over it kid, get a sleeping bag and pack it up. And hey if proph didnt like me behind my back, thats fine, but he sure didnt act that way when i was around. i never got shafted, and for some reason when it came time to get gear, tho i was still fresh new in the shell pretty much, i got put ahead of those already waiting and got my gear pretty fast.
Not that im proud of that or anything, i did voice my opinion on it not being fair feeling, but he said who cares.
And if that is true proph didnt like me and you didnt like me, who cares? i dont know you guys anyway, and i certainly could care less. Is it supposed to hurt my feelings now or something? are you digging at the bottom of the hurt barrel for something to put on me? dig deeper i guess, its gonna take some work. Because if all that is true, in the end, i got you guys worse than youll ever be able to get me.
oh i still have friends in the game, no one from OH im sure, not that i care. But i still have em.
and never once did i say i did anything honorable or even remotley hint at it, because i didnt. and im just fine with that.

 

[XGrayswanderX]

Oh, blah blah. You assumed I was hacking Jailers like Cyro just like everyone else on these boards. It's impossible to tell who's playing your character, Cyros, Quitita,s Prophecies, Kireeks, Because all of you shared ur bots and hacked on each other chars like it was Russian Roulette. Who's gonna get caught 1st, or last?

As to the programming, I concede chasym. I know only limited C++ and I have no idea where any bots have come from originally.

All I know is that the original Gil seller/botter was that Japanese guy Daikon. You remember him, he was the one with the naked humes kneeling around by Lower Jeunos fountain - Daikonone, Daikontwo, Daikonman, Daikonking, daikondaikon, and so on.

 

[Xalioniaf]

Oh, blah blah. You assumed I was hacking Jailers like Cyro just like everyone else on these boards. It's impossible to tell who's playing your character, Cyros, Quitita,s Prophecies, Kireeks, Because all of you shared ur bots and hacked on each other chars like it was Russian Roulette. Who's gonna get caught 1st, or last?

As to the programming, I concede chasym. I know only limited C++ and I have no idea where any bots have come from originally.

All I know is that the original Gil seller/botter was that Japanese guy Daikon. You remember him, he was the one with the naked humes kneeling around by Lower Jeunos fountain - Daikonone, Daikontwo, Daikonman, Daikonking, daikondaikon, and so on.

Where'd those mules disappear off to anyway? I'm fairly sure he wasn't banned, because I saw Daikon around a lot in Al Zahbi long after all the other Daikons disappeared.

 

[Chasym]

Oh, blah blah. You assumed I was hacking Jailers like Cyro just like everyone else on these boards. It's impossible to tell who's playing your character, Cyros, Quitita,s Prophecies, Kireeks, Because all of you shared ur bots and hacked on each other chars like it was Russian Roulette. Who's gonna get caught 1st, or last?

As to the programming, I concede chasym. I know only limited C++ and I have no idea where any bots have come from originally.

All I know is that the original Gil seller/botter was that Japanese guy Daikon. You remember him, he was the one with the naked humes kneeling around by Lower Jeunos fountain - Daikonone, Daikontwo, Daikonman, Daikonking, daikondaikon, and so on.

you assumed the same about me as well, but i didnt even have sea till the end of my characters life span, and the only jailer i ever went to was love, the one you tanked, and i didnt even battle, i just filmed.

 

[XGrayswanderX]

you assumed the same about me as well, but i didnt even have sea till the end of my characters life span, and the only jailer i ever went to was love, the one you tanked, and i didnt even battle, i just filmed.

Fair enough.

 

[Solan]

Hell, I put the "Chasym pulls a leeroy" video on chasym.org of the moment i leroy'd prophs relic run, and in that video i openly used flee tool and had all the dynamis mobs chasing me but not able to keep up...and not one...single...person. in the 1000's of downloads that file recieved ever noticed or said a word.

Can you send me this vid? I wanna see it and it doesn't look like Chasym.org is working.

 

[Chasym]

Can you send me this vid? I wanna see it and it doesn't look like Chasym.org is working.

if i can find it sure, i had a hard drive crash and i lost a few videos, One being my tiamat video, my loldrg video and i believe the chasym pulls a leroy video. even lost my smn back song >.< been tryin to find people with copies for awhile but people only have my more well known ones.