Soulstar ninjalotted YYR from Myrrh

[jyakotsu]

TY TIDY, and youve been gone for how long and you can understand what ninja lotting is? Xean you fucking idiot

 

[Skanya]

Soul was in the wrong for lotting and the leaders where wrong in telling him to lot on the robe. if soul was asking you what he should do rather then bad mouth another member of your LS you should have just told him you have no say in the matter and to go by what ever agreement him and myrr already had and even if you did say something you should have just told him that "IF" myrr didnt show up next time you would still help untill he got on so no big deal, and if you didnt like myrr's attatude rather then keeping him in the shell just ask him to leave in /tells

 

[Marajade]

Everyone else is resorting to low blows and irrational flaming, why not me?

You'll notice that the irrational ones aren't the ones getting themselves beaten in this argument.

 

[Mishaela]

Kage this shit became public, Mod can remove it if neccessary, but this is essential to the flame the second it started

It...actually has nothing to do with the flame at all. The only relevance in that screenshot to this thread is Myrrh is feeling underappreaciated which at this time, who the hell can blame him?

 

[exodusamphi]

You'll notice that the irrational ones aren't the ones getting themselves beaten in this argument.

It all depends on how you look at it, I dont consider myself getten beaten, just name called.

 

[jyakotsu]

It...actually has nothing to do with the flame at all. The only relevance in that screenshot to this thread is Myrrh is feeling underappreaciated which at this time, who the hell can blame him?

fuck this im reediting the LS screenshots, TBH you can suck my balls... i was being nice by not sending your shit out. Thanks for the low blow Exodus.

 

[Bigboy]

How is requesting someone to stop calling out people in an LS being a "smart guy"? Its simply me requesting Mara to stop calling members who troll this board from TBH out. Thats pure flamebait right there. Call it repect for my shell or whatever, i still stand by my post.

And you seriously need to stop with the name calling, i was done with that in high school.

Sorry man, I talk it back, you're not a smart guy. >.>

I guess sarcasm is both below you, yet manages to fly over your head at the same time. A perpetual paradox you are.

 

[exodusamphi]

fuck this im reediting the LS screenshots, TBH you can suck my balls... i was being nice by not sending your shit out. Thanks for the low blow Exodus.

Whatever Jeska defended it perfectly and your going to get butthurt, do what you will.

 

[Myrrh]

I won't lie. I posted it. I was sick and fucked up on Cough meds. I was angry but it all worked out in the end. The ls I thought hated me turned out to like me more then my own Social. If anything this helped open my eyes.

I was always thinking Fury would fuck me over not my social which I've helped out constantly.

 

[Xean]

Well Xean, I've spent the greater portion of the shared leadership of Road's and my personal shell, and my time within Fury helping other people and supporting and encouraging others for gear and opportunities that I had no vested interest in. And I think your policy is trash. You're saying Myrrh is selfish for wanting this robe when he's the one who sat out there getting ToDs for weeks, when he couldn't apparently get help from anyone because of timing or whatever and getting angry at a ninja lot? Really? Because that's the biggest load of bunk I have ever heard. If your smns wanted the ToDs so damned bad, they would have been out there camping it themselves or would have motivated up the people to help out. I don't know of anyone in this game who would sit and camp ToD on charyb for hours/days/weeks then say to someone who was around a few times here and there, oh sure yeah... here nevermind that weeks of my personal time and effort was spent, you feel free to take that up. BUMP that. If I'm camping something I know someone else is interested in, I make arrangements with someone beforehand just like any ksnm bcnm etc. about who will lot/what is being lotted. That's called fairness. I'll go out on a limb and suspect that the agreement they came to on who would lot stemmed from the fact that he KNEW Myrrh had put in the time for this and earned it. All he kept saying was "How did I know you'd come help me?" Such an encouraging, everyone should be selfless and invest tons of time in drops for everyone else type mentality: Hold a ninja-lotted item over someone's head to force them into giving help they already promised you? You must be joking.

Here's an image from the forum showing that, yes, they did make efforts towards Shikigami, and yes, did get other members to go out and help. And what would be fair in this situation was that, since both people seeking one particular item were of the SAME linkshell and SAME job, and both STILL could not even equip the item, would be that BOTH were entitled to lotting the item. And what help must they be forced into giving us? None. There is no one else that really needs the robe. Only Myrrh is left; the other SMN is out of internet. Yet, help was still offered.

In all the time I've known Myrrh, he has gone on missions/done events he HATED only to help out other people. He has offered help to me more times than I can count in a time of need, and has always been respectful and congratulatory on lotting decisions. I don't care what you've "heard," you shouldn't have been making those kinds of judgement calls on lotting rights unless you knew Myrrh to be dishonest firsthand which you and Zer both, admittedly do not. You, your leadership, your decision, and your little buddy Soulstar are wrong. This was not your linkshell's event only, this was not your call, I hate to burst the ego involved. It should have been left to the people who agreed beforehand, yet the one took it upon himself to break that agreement and ninja lot a fellow linkshell member. Sell the "we're looking out for the best of the linkshell" noise to someone else. Because NONE of you were looking out for Myrrh. Thank God there are some of us that are looking out for him or there wouldn't have been enough people there to kill the goddamned thing in the first place. How's that for some hard, cold fact?

I've already stated what I thought about Myrrh initially. Read my post and you'll see that I was pleased with Myrrh being very helpful in the early times I was here. Oh, but no one ever reads everything. Usually, something someone says already has something about it in the first post.

Actually, yes it was the linkshell's event. Two people wanted YYR. Myrrh was complaining in our LS that his endgame LS was NOT helping him. Myrrh had other friends to help him out, but they weren't the only ones there either. However, they weren't seeking a YYR. That leaves two members from ONE shell seeking a YYR.

And here's a pic where Myrrh is complaining about your own shell. Everyone on here likes to point fingers at everyone else, but they always do the same things themselves.

 

[Jeska]

I won't lie. I posted it. I was sick and fucked up on Cough meds. I was angry but it all worked out in the end. The ls I thought hated me turned out to like me more then my own Social. If anything this helped open my eye.

Its times like this you find out who your true friends are Myrrh, I hope I can help you on the next pop or something else sometime.

 

[Zyndara]

Notice the I've spent the greater portion of the shared leadership of Road's and my personal shell, and my time within Fury helping other people and supporting and encouraging others for gear and opportunities that I had no vested interest in. and Thank God there are some of us that are looking out for him or there wouldn't have been enough people there to kill the goddamned thing in the first place. How's that for some hard, cold fact?

Now, read this good 'ole QCDNers...

There you have it... Fury HELPED? Sure, after enough times asking, but seriously, i dont see them beeing there helping Myrrh...

and epic SS for an epic thread

See my earlier post. I don't know you well but you're really getting into this when you don't need to be for someone talking about non-involved people throwing their two cents in. #1 Marajade was there helping tonight, one of the many people MYRRH brought in to help, so he has every right to respond to this... more so than you who had nothing to do with it. #2 As I previously stated, Fury has been busy as hell. We have a lot going on, we're trying new things, people merit, people are leveling jobs. You can ask Myrrh, I respond to him any time I am on and physically at the keyboard to see his text. But there are times when people are *GASP* logged in and afk. MANY people do this. Myrrh wanted help, asked for help, and in OUR forums had many people including myself post that they were interested in helping if the ToD fell when people were able to come help. Most people who don't respond to LS chat don't do so because they can't... battle spam, afk, zoning, what have you. That's not an excuse, depending on the time of day, that's the truth. But I'm sure that never happens in other perfect shells right? Riiiiight. You don't really have a place in this argument and you are not doing a credit to yourself or the shell by continuing along this line. I'm sorry Ex, but that's the truth.

The fact is, we turned out in numbers to help Myrrh as soon as enough of us were able. And even when only a few of us were, sometimes we were there to at least help w/ ToD. Take your own advice and stop trying to make this about our linkshell when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand in the least.

 

[Selph]

Wow....I don't really even know how to reply to this.....
Myrrh..I am so sorry this happened to you......I dont know you well, but from what I have seen, your an excellent player, and a helpful person. If I'm and you want help camping Shiki again, give me a tell, and Ill do all I can to help you get your robe.

To be f'ed over in your Social LS like that is....well....shitty to say the least.
I'm not quite sure wtf Xean and other's where thinking. YYR isn't something to ruin friendships over. And this Soul<whatever> guy doesn't seem to have much of a moral backing, pawn, always do what peer pressure you to do? Think about how much Myrrh must feel right now. Seconds away from holding the biggest pain in the ass piece of gear for a dedicated to SMN to earn, EARN, not Ninja lot, and then you rip it away. I hope everytime you where that robe, you discover how much you don't deserve it, and how bad you make your Shell, your job, and yourself look.

Xean, and the rest of TBH...shame on all of you. Think about how all of you would feel if something like this happened to you. You WOULD be pissed off.
TBH, back stabbers 4 life....

This honestly makes me sick....

 

[Jeska]

I dont know what those screenshots are supposed to prove Xean, Myrrh already stated he made those posts in a low time and was frustrated, in fact why not go all the way and post the final post Myrrh put there explaining his frustration and hopes we could do it todgether soon.

You should have been a politican Xean, you are great at giving out part of the story, at least the part that suits you.

 

[exodusamphi]

See my earlier post. I don't know you well but you're really getting into this when you don't need to be for someone talking about non-involved people throwing their two cents in. #1 Marajade was there helping tonight, one of the many people MYRRH brought in to help, so he has every right to respond to this... more so than you who had nothing to do with it. #2 As I previously stated, Fury has been busy as hell. We have a lot going on, we're trying new things, people merit, people are leveling jobs. You can ask Myrrh, I respond to him any time I am on and physically at the keyboard to see his text. But there are times when people are *GASP* logged in and afk. MANY people do this. Myrrh wanted help, asked for help, and in OUR forums had many people including myself post that they were interested in helping if the ToD fell when people were able to come help. Most people who don't respond to LS chat don't do so because they can't... battle spam, afk, zoning, what have you. That's not an excuse, depending on the time of day, that's the truth. But I'm sure that never happens in other perfect shells right? Riiiiight. You don't really have a place in this argument and you are not doing a credit to yourself or the shell by continuing along this line. I'm sorry Ex, but that's the truth.

The fact is, we turned out in numbers to help Myrrh as soon as enough of us were able. And even when only a few of us were, sometimes we were there to at least help w/ ToD. Take your own advice and stop trying to make this about our linkshell when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand in the least.

I understand what your saying save for 1 thing, IF fury has nothing to do with this then WHY are Fury members posting about their turnout on the help and all that when you arent involved? People call me a hipocrit but the people who have posted from your LS are on the same level as me.

 

[Marajade]

Wow. It would seem TBH is resorting to use of private fourms to attempt to win this. (it isn't working, but its still sad.)

 

[exodusamphi]

Wow. It would seem TBH is resorting to use of private fourms to attempt to win this. (it isn't working, but its still sad.)

So if Xean posted 3 or 4(my stupid memory doesnt recall the amount of screenies he posted from our forum) then im off the hook right?

theres some /sarcasm for you. (No aggressive tone intended)

 

[Marajade]

So if Xean posted 3 or 4(my stupid memory doesnt recall the amount of screenies he posted from our forum) then im off the hook right?

theres some /sarcasm for you. (No aggressive tone intended)

Nope, its a good thing hooks come in bulk.

 

[Xean]

It doesn't matter whether other campers included members outside the LS. Let's not even compare the numbers anyways, you wouldn't want that. What matters is who was going after the YYR, and that was TWO people who were in the SAME linkshell.

Actually it does matter, cause you had no authority to say who could lot. I don't know the exact numbers for tonight, but I do know that at the pop previous to this one it was in the middle of the night and 7 Fury members were there, 0 TBH members. I didn't see Soulstar or any other TBH SMN even in the zone.

Exactly how do you link non-lotting campers to bearing any importance to who lot or couldn't? The authority was laid down in the agreement that was mistakenly made in the beginning. How many people came from one side to help doesn't dictate who can lot. And today there were 6 people from our LS there today, not counting Myrrh. I would have been there--just like I was last time--but Thursdays are scheduled static party evening.

 

[Mishaela]

Xean, and the rest of TBH...shame on all of you. Think about how all of you would feel if something like this happened to you. You WOULD be pissed off.
TBH, back stabbers 4 life....

Only the two leaders and one (maybe two if I missed someone) support what's going on, the rest of the shell is actually supporting Myrrh in this matter. =/