Spiral Lights Over Norway

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Do you guys believe that it was caused by a "failed Russian ICBM"? I just looks way to perfect too be caused by an unstable missile in flight to me. Thoughts?




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Holy fuck, that looks fucking cool. Missile, my ass!
 
I just don't see how... a missile could do that so perfectly. I'm seriously hoping one of the smart forum lurkers will come on here and prove that it was some elaborate hoax or something, and call me a retard.

But yeah, I'm just not buying it.
 
That thing doesn't even look real. It looks like something out of a movie.
 
If wish we got more of a scientific explanation... not just "oh, those cheeky Russians..."
 
As much as it looks cool, it really was just a failed missile launch. Not anywhere near as glamorous as many of the suggestions I read, but by far the most likely. All the explanation you need is in the video, it clearly shows what can happen when a missile fails, and the spiral shape it can create. That's exactly what was seen, and that's the explanation for it. I can't understand why, with an explanation of what happened on the table, people still come out with outrageous suggestions and claim they don't believe it.
 
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Russia launches missile at Norway while Obama is receiving his noble prize. Discuss.
 
As much as it looks cool, it really was just a failed missile launch. Not anywhere near as glamorous as many of the suggestions I read, but by far the most likely. All the explanation you need is in the video, it clearly shows what can happen when a missile fails, and the spiral shape it can create. That's exactly what was seen, and that's the explanation for it. I can't understand why, with an explanation of what happened on the table, people still come out with outrageous suggestions and claim they don't believe it.

They test shot a RSM-56 Bulava missile. The first two stages was a success (launch and the blue spiral), but then something went wrong causing it to explode.

Its designed to avoid anti-missile systems by making it hard to track in the air, thus the spiraling, supposedly. It is also immune to EM-pulses and nuclear explosions at a minimum of 500 meters.
 
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If wish we got more of a scientific explanation... not just "oh, those cheeky Russians..."

As you wish. Although I can only shed some light on exterior details surrounding what we're looking at. I only have ideas on what that actually is, but not even I can rely on that.

I recognize the spiral formation. In short terms the spiral's ratio is 1.618 at any scale. On an interesting and important side it has been known by ancient civilizations since their time, and more into the modern tech scene since the 80's.

In this case I don't know what the cause of that spiral is, but I have a keen understanding of it's shape. Despite it's appearance Geometrically it's the basis for a perfect rectangle, or the most pleasing rectangle, take your pic. It's natures way, and it has been inspirational in design, technology, and all living things. All things natural and the best of synthetic even.

I've been meaning to make a thread about this but I'll just go ahead and make something here while there is interest. Of coarse I can say go look it up what I'm saying, but it's more fun this way.

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This shape has many names. In sacred geometry it's called the Golden Section, or the Golden Ratio. It's also called a logarithmic spiral, Phi, or Pi, nautilus spiral ( like the nautilus shell ) and my personal favorite ( cause of how it sounds ) Fibonacci. ( Named after an ancient Greek mathematician who discovered this common ratio in nature, Leonardo Fibonacci. It's also been considered to be Gods fingerprint and I'll get to that in a sec.

"The nature of growth" best describes the basic math behind this spiral. Mathematically It works by simple addition....

....1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21 (toward infinity).

Each number is obtained by adding the numbers before it. To continue the above we would add the 2 last numbers like we did for the entire scale, 13+21 (and we get) = 34. Easy to understand.

The Spiral and the Rectangle

Take any two numbers next to one another in the Fibonacci scale and draw two lines horizontal and vertical from one another and have them meet at the corner. You can then draw a Fibonacci rectangle.

I made this break down on a grid, (excuse the poor digits, I rushed it with a vector tool, but fair enough)

Figure A
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Notice the squares on the grid. 1 is one, then 2 by 2, then 3 by 3 and so on. Those are all Fibonacci numbers. That is a break down of a Fibonacci rectangle.

Figure B
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There is the spiral. Lets focus on the top. when we break a perfect square from the rectangle, we get another Fibonacci rectangle as seen under the square.

I also highlighted the last part of the spiral in that image. It is a quarter circle. All off the squares have that same quarter circle. I had to rotate the curves by 90 degrees at each turning point and also scaled them accordingly for each section. The curve on the top section is scaled to 13 as it is in the 13 by 13 section of the grid. I did the same for the others.

More on the subject.
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I overlaid the perfect spiral I made, over the perfect spiral someone/something else made in the Norway sky.

The Fibonacci spiral can be quite evasive visually, and it is infinite. If I did another 90 degree turn, the logarithmic spiral would stay on track, and also continue to make the Fibonacci rectangle.

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In nature, the spiral and the numeric ratios can be found in any living creature including ourselves. Gravitational force follows the same pattern. Any type of vortex, from draining water from a sink, to a typhoon spiral in the same mathematical ratio. A title wave curls with a Fibonacci spiral, as does the arms of every galaxy. Everything from snow flakes to rainbows.

For computer science, they wrote simulation software using Fibonacci numbers, and we end up with some pretty accurate animations of water particles being tossed in the air and splashing on a surface.



All slightly off topic, but not at all either. Only something as multifunctional as the Golden Ratio can call many topics of discussion in one place. I've seen so many examples of the spiral, and what we're seeing is as mysterious as the spiral in itself.

It's been inspirational for art and design and various gadgets that really do function. I wouldn't be too surprised if it were a new type of weapon, though I'd rather it not be.
 
All I have to say is this.


SPECIAL BEAM CANNON!!!!!!!!!


That is all.
 
We are highly disappointed in you guys.
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Wow.

At first glance that looks so incredibly fake it's laughable. Then I watched the vid and thought.. ok maybe it's a stunt. Honestly, spirals in the sky over Norway! So exciting they should name a musical after it =)

No but Ant, that explanation, although I could only just follow, was neat ^^

Weird stuffs.


Personally, if they keep getting these launches wrong, I' say it's time to pack it in and put you finding towards something better ;p
 
golden ratio explanation

In case it's not in the video (I didn't watch it) - see also Vitruvian Man, Honeycombs, Sunflowers, and almost any other naturally-occurring spiral for other examples of Phi at work. It's really quite neat.
 
This thing has been kinda funny for me, since my initial reaction at seeing the video (before the Russians announced the launch failure) was "Huh, looks like someone has a missile launch malfunction."
 
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