State of the union

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I put this here cos i'm positive it'll end up being moved here eventually...

Being someone who lives in the union as opposed to living above it i skipped it. From what i read on CNN earlier he was basicly taking Kerry's platform on most things now.

Someone enlighten me.
 
OOP! found a transcript! big long nasty scary laundry list post coming.
 
George Bush doesn't care about flip-flops!
 
Just find it highly amusing that he is now advocating the Line Item Veto when his party used it against clinton and it was a main part of their strategy of offense in the Impeachment debacle.

Also.. He's against Human-Animal Hybrids? WTF?
 
Orchid said:
Also.. He's against Human-Animal Hybrids? WTF?


what the hell is that?
 
I hate the State of the Union address. It's always like *President speaks for 20 seconds* *APPLAUSE WOOHOO YAY APPLAUSE* *President speaks for 30 seconds* *APPLAUSE YIPPEE YEE-HAW APPLAUSE* repeat endlessly. I can't bear to watch it (and I don't just mean Bush's addresses either).
 
Since when does Bush have to make sense? Or even actually do what he says...
 
Songi_ said:
I hate the State of the Union address. It's always like *President speaks for 20 seconds* *APPLAUSE WOOHOO YAY APPLAUSE* *President speaks for 30 seconds* *APPLAUSE YIPPEE YEE-HAW APPLAUSE* repeat endlessly. I can't bear to watch it (and I don't just mean Bush's addresses either).


that's not his fault though.
 
I always feel bad for the old people who are having to do the whole standup sitdown standup sitdown stuff. They are just hastening that hip transplant. :D It wasn't a bad speech but I dislike the state of the union because nothing concrete is given out. It's just a lot of "What I want to do." and no "This is how I plan to get this done. This is how I will finance these ideas. ect.".
 
Kurgon said:
I always feel bad for the old people who are having to do the whole standup sitdown standup sitdown stuff. They are just hastening that hip transplant. :D It wasn't a bad speech but I dislike the state of the union because nothing concrete is given out. It's just a lot of "What I want to do." and no "This is how I plan to get this done. This is how I will finance these ideas. ect.".

well, in all honesty that's the greedy idea of the majority of politicians. say you WILL do things and leave everyone wondering why when you don't live up to it.

he says he PLANS to do this and that because he doesn't want to leave you asking why if he can't do what he planned. literally though, when has he said he would do somthing and hasn't?
 
Orchid said:
Also.. He's against Human-Animal Hybrids? WTF?

Kurgon said:
It's just a lot of "What I want to do." and no "This is how I plan to get this done. This is how I will finance these ideas. ect.".

I plan on funding this new war on Animal-human hybrids by selling orphans to Nazi's, Zoo's as bear food, or Haliburton
 
Braydon said:
I plan on funding this new war on Animal-human hybrids by selling orphans to Nazi's, Zoo's as bear food, or Haliburton


I support this idea with the funding of habetreaton.
 
The bold denotes my personal opinion about statements made.


Jan. 31 - NEWS - President Bush's State of the Union address as prepared for delivery from the White House:

Mr. Speaker, Vice President Cheney, Members of Congress, Members of the Supreme Court and diplomatic corps, distinguished guests, and fellow citizens:

Today our Nation lost a beloved, graceful, courageous woman who called America to its founding ideals and carried on a noble dream. Tonight we are comforted by the hope of a glad reunion with the husband who was taken from her so long ago, and we are grateful for the good life of Coretta Scott King.

Each time I am invited to this rostrum, I am humbled by the privilege, and mindful of the history we have seen together. We have gathered under this Capitol dome in moments of national mourning and national achievement. We have served America through one of the most consequential periods of our history -- and it has been my honor to serve with you.

I got nothin

In a system of two parties, two chambers, and two elected branches, there will always be differences and debate. But even tough debates can be conducted in a civil tone, and our differences cannot be allowed to harden into anger. To confront the great issues before us, we must act in a spirit of good will and respect for one another -- and I will do my part. Tonight the state of our Union is strong -- and together we will make it stronger.

Since when is debate on his policy greeting with a civil tone? everyone's either letting the terrorists win or a left wing ideological liberal

In this decisive year, you and I will make choices that determine both the future and the character of our country. We will choose to act confidently in pursuing the enemies of freedom -- or retreat from our duties in the hope of an easier life. We will choose to build our prosperity by leading the world economy -- or shut ourselves off from trade and opportunity. In a complex and challenging time, the road of isolationism and protectionism may seem broad and inviting -- yet it ends in danger and decline. The only way to protect our people ... the only way to secure the peace ... the only way to control our destiny is by our leadership -- so the United States of America will continue to lead.

"YOU AND I"? roflcakes. Aside from that he's already made up his mind from the tone of this paragraph.

Abroad, our Nation is committed to an historic, long-term goal -- we seek the end of tyranny in our world.

We never start at home anymore :(

Some dismiss that goal as misguided idealism. In reality, the future security of America depends on it. On September 11th, 2001, we found that problems originating in a failed and oppressive state seven thousand miles away could bring murder and destruction to our country. Dictatorships shelter terrorists, feed resentment and radicalism, and seek weapons of mass destruction. Democracies replace resentment with hope, respect the rights of their citizens and their neighbors, and join the fight against terror. Every step toward freedom in the world makes our country safer, and so we will act boldly in freedom's cause.

Remember 9/11? ok, just making sure it's fresh ... btw we knew about those dudes before they got up to go to the airport that day. It's also important to note that EVERY recommendation of the 9/11 comission is sub-par at best, your tax dollars at work.

Far from being a hopeless dream, the advance of freedom is the great story of our time. In 1945, there were about two dozen lonely democracies on Earth. Today, there are 122. And we are writing a new chapter in the story of self-government

Too bad it was at the cost of our own.

-- with women lining up to vote in Afghanistan ... and millions of Iraqis marking their liberty with purple ink ... and men and women from Lebanon to Egypt debating the rights of individuals and the necessity of freedom. At the start of 2006, more than half the people of our world live in democratic nations. And we do not forget the other half -- in places like Syria, Burma, Zimbabwe, North Korea, and Iran -- because the demands of justice, and the peace of this world, require their freedom as well.

Most of this i can dig ... save the whole syria, burma, zimbabwe, NK, and Iran bit ... let's go to war with daddy's enemies and strive for diplomacy everywhere else, sounds good right?

No one can deny the success of freedom, but some men rage and fight against it.

Goddamn ACLU (that's not a joke.)

And one of the main sources of reaction and opposition is radical Islam -- the perversion by a few of a noble faith into an ideology of terror and death.

What about radical christians? You mean to tell me that Islam somewhere not on our soil is as dangerous as the ill-educated masses listeing to pat roberts and jerry fallwell?

Terrorists like bin Laden are serious about mass murder -- and all of us must take their declared intentions seriously.

President's like myself "don't concern themselves (myself to direct quote) with them much."

They seek to impose a heartless system of totalitarian control throughout the Middle East, and arm themselves with weapons of mass murder. Their aim is to seize power in Iraq, and use it as a safe haven to launch attacks against America and the world. Lacking the military strength to challenge us directly, the terrorists have chosen the weapon of fear.

Bush seeks to impose a heartless psuedo-democracy where even the popular vote hardly matters and other things citizens SHOULD be voting on never see the light of day and yet there's this criticism, wtf? We already had all the bombs, wtf else were they gonna use?

When they murder children at a school in Beslan ... or blow up commuters in London ... or behead a bound captive ..... the terrorists hope these horrors will break our will, allowing the violent to inherit the Earth. But they have miscalculated: We love our freedom, and we will fight to keep it.

wait wait wait ... let the violent inherit the earth? per capita i'm almost positive we've got the lockdown on violence. I'm sure folks in columbia think the same of us for the most part about the unethical treatment of other nations citizens....

In a time of testing, we cannot find security by abandoning our commitments and retreating within our borders.

Even if that is what most people in the country favor.

If we were to leave these vicious attackers alone, they would not leave us alone. They would simply move the battlefield to our own shores. There is no peace in retreat. And there is no honor in retreat. By allowing radical Islam to work its will -- by leaving an assaulted world to fend for itself -- we would signal to all that we no longer believe in our own ideals, or even in our own courage. But our enemies and our friends can be certain: The United States will not retreat from the world, and we will never surrender to evil.

We openly embrace it.

America rejects the false comfort of isolationism. We are the Nation that saved liberty in Europe, and liberated death camps, and helped raise up democracies, and faced down an evil empire. Once again, we accept the call of history to deliver the oppressed, and move this world toward peace.

I reject the false comfort of isolationism. We are the nation that came late to the big wars and saved everyone's ass (according to every redneck on my block) Back when America meant having a sack and eating apple pie.

We remain on the offensive against terror networks. We have killed or captured many of their leaders -- and for the others, their day will come.

Once again .. if he doesn't lose interest, they don't provide a kickback, or they threaten his business ties.

We remain on the offensive in Afghanistan -- where a fine president and national assembly are fighting terror while building the institutions of a new democracy.

I got nothing.

And we are on the offensive in Iraq, with a clear plan for victory.

CLEAR PLAN? since when? i thought this whole war thing was over already.

First, we are helping Iraqis build an inclusive government, so that old resentments will be eased, and the insurgency marginalized. Second, we are continuing reconstruction efforts, and helping the Iraqi government to fight corruption and build a modern economy, so all Iraqis can experience the benefits of freedom. Third, we are striking terrorist targets while we train Iraqi forces that are increasingly capable of defeating the enemy. Iraqis are showing their courage every day, and we are proud to be their allies in the cause of freedom.

So we're helping to rebuild what we oh so righteously blew up .. then we're putting a government in to place that's just as corrupt as the last one and those that aren't are getting picked off like flies all the while manipulating their economy with our own interests in mind, thirdly we're training their military as fast as the insurgents can blow them up >.> The iraqi people ARE courageous, i got no bones on that ... so much for a clear plan to victory.

Our work in Iraq is difficult, because our enemy is brutal. But that brutality has not stopped the dramatic progress of a new democracy. In less than three years, that nation has gone from dictatorship, to liberation, to sovereignty, to a constitution, to national elections. At the same time, our coalition has been relentless in shutting off terrorist infiltration, clearing out insurgent strongholds, and turning over territory to Iraqi security forces. I am confident in our plan for victory ... I am confident in the will of the Iraqi people ... I am confident in the skill and spirit of our military. Fellow citizens, we are in this fight to win, and we are winning.

I got nothing on this either, if it weren't for the troops dubya wouldn't have much going for him at all.

The road of victory is the road that will take our troops home. As we make progress on the ground, and Iraqi forces increasingly take the lead, we should be able to further decrease our troop levels -- but those decisions will be made by our military commanders, not by politicians in Washington, D.C.

no no, the decisions to put them places are made by politicans. Once they get there, it's on the people who know what the fuck their talking about to get them out.

Our coalition has learned from experience in Iraq. We have adjusted our military tactics and changed our approach to reconstruction. Along the way, we have benefited from responsible criticism and counsel offered by Members of Congress of both parties. In the coming year, I will continue to reach out and seek your good advice.

by calling anyone who disagrees a hard left-wing liberl out to destroy the fabric of america, even if they happen to be a decorated war hero.

Yet there is a difference between responsible criticism that aims for success, and defeatism that refuses to acknowledge anything but failure. Hindsight alone is not wisdom. And second-guessing is not a strategy.

Subjective reality syndrome. It's all a matter of whose side you're on when something gets said.

With so much in the balance, those of us in public office have a duty to speak with candor.

Meanwhile he refuses to give information that should be public record on a gambit of issues simply because they may incriminate him. Sound politics IMO.

A sudden withdrawal of our forces from Iraq would abandon our Iraqi allies to death and prison ... put men like bin Laden and Zarqawi in charge of a strategic country ... and show that a pledge from America means little.

agreed ... now

Members of Congress: however we feel about the decisions and debates of the past, our Nation has only one option: We must keep our word, defeat our enemies, and stand behind the American military in its vital mission.

meh, our word is all about the almight $. cut the bullshit

Our men and women in uniform are making sacrifices -- and showing a sense of duty stronger than all fear. They know what it is like to fight house to house in a maze of streets ... to wear heavy gear in the desert heat ... to see a comrade killed by a roadside bomb. And those who know the costs also know the stakes. Marine Staff Sergeant Dan Clay was killed last month fighting the enemy in Fallujah. He left behind a letter to his family, but his words could just as well be addressed to every American. Here is what Dan wrote: "I know what honor is. It has been an honor to protect and serve all of you. I faced death with the secure knowledge that you would not have to.... Never falter! Don't hesitate to honor and support those of us who have the honor of protecting that which is worth protecting."

I'm for the troops, not for getting the troops blown up, let me make that distinction clear.

Staff Sergeant Dan Clay's wife, Lisa, and his mom and dad, Sara Jo and Bud, are with us this evening. Our Nation is grateful to the fallen, who live in the memory of our country. We are grateful to all who volunteer to wear our Nation's uniform -- and as we honor our brave troops, let us never forget the sacrifices of America's military families.

God rest his soul.

Our offensive against terror involves more than military action. Ultimately, the only way to defeat the terrorists is to defeat their dark vision of hatred and fear by offering the hopeful alternative of political freedom and peaceful change.

Not to mention coporate interests running their lives, the model for any good america clone.

So the United States of America supports democratic reform across the broader Middle East.

but not at home.

Elections are vital

to everyone but him.

-- but they are only the beginning. Raising up a democracy requires the rule of law, protection of minorities, and strong, accountable institutions that last longer than a single vote. The great people of Egypt have voted in a multi-party presidential election -- and now their government should open paths of peaceful opposition that will reduce the appeal of radicalism. The Palestinian people have voted in elections -- now the leaders of Hamas must recognize Israel, disarm, reject terrorism, and work for lasting peace. Saudi Arabia has taken the first steps of reform -- now it can offer its people a better future by pressing forward with those efforts. Democracies in the Middle East will not look like our own, because they will reflect the traditions of their own citizens. Yet liberty is the future of every nation in the Middle East, because liberty is the right and hope of all humanity.

i liked this part.

The same is true of Iran, a nation now held hostage by a small clerical elite that is isolating and repressing its people. The regime in that country sponsors terrorists in the Palestinian territories and in Lebanon -- and that must come to an end. The Iranian government is defying the world with its nuclear ambitions -- and the nations of the world must not permit the Iranian regime to gain nuclear weapons. America will continue to rally the world to confront these threats. And tonight, let me speak directly to the citizens of Iran: America respects you, and we respect your country. We respect your right to choose your own future and win your own freedom. And our Nation hopes one day to be the closest of friends with a free and democratic Iran.

ah the sweet smell of diplomacy :confused:

To overcome dangers in our world, we must also take the offensive by encouraging economic progress, fighting disease, and spreading hope in hopeless lands. Isolationism would not only tie our hands in fighting enemies, it would keep us from helping our friends in desperate need.

As opposed to helping ourselves.

We show compassion abroad because Americans believe in the God-given dignity and worth of a villager with HIV/AIDS, or an infant with malaria, or a refugee fleeing genocide, or a young girl sold into slavery. We also show compassion abroad because regions overwhelmed by poverty, corruption, and despair are sources of terrorism, organized crime, human trafficking, and the drug trade.

I'd be for this if he was talking about this country, fuck the rest of the world for once, oi.

In recent years, you and I have taken unprecedented action to fight AIDS and malaria, expand the education of girls, and reward developing nations that are moving forward with economic and political reform. For people everywhere, the United States is a partner for a better life. Short-changing these efforts would increase the suffering and chaos of our world, undercut our long-term security, and dull the conscience of our country. I urge Members of Congress to serve the interests of America by showing the compassion of America.

blah blah blah .. humanitarian stuff meanwhile everyone in this country is left to fend for themselves on a crumbling system of healthcare.

Our country must also remain on the offensive against terrorism here at home. The enemy has not lost the desire or capability to attack us. Fortunately, this Nation has superb professionals in law enforcement, intelligence, the military, and homeland security. These men and women are dedicating their lives to protecting us all, and they deserve our support and our thanks. They also deserve the same tools they already use to fight drug trafficking and organized crime -- so I ask you to reauthorize the Patriot Act.

back to terrorism that fast? glad to know he truly cares about those poor suffering people. As far as the patriot act goes i'd refer folks to trip's sig .. written by a REAL patriot.

It is said that prior to the attacks of September 11th, our government failed to connect the dots of the conspiracy.

said and proven.

We now know that two of the hijackers in the United States placed telephone calls to al-Qaida operatives overseas. But we did not know about their plans until it was too late. So to prevent another attack -- based on authority given to me by the Constitution and by statute -- I have authorized a terrorist surveillance program to aggressively pursue the international communications of suspected al-Qaida operatives and affiliates to and from America. Previous presidents have used the same constitutional authority I have -- and Federal courts have approved the use of that authority. Appropriate Members of Congress have been kept informed. This terrorist surveillance program has helped prevent terrorist attacks. It remains essential to the security of America. If there are people inside our country who are talking with al-Qaida, we want to know about it  because we will not sit back and wait to be hit again.

even though a progam for this that was legal already existed.

In all these areas -- from the disruption of terror networks, to victory in Iraq, to the spread of freedom and hope in troubled regions -- we need the support of friends and allies.

NOW we need friends and allies? what about back when this shitstorm started?

To draw that support, we must always be clear in our principles and willing to act.

further alienating the world at large like we did previously ... good call.

The only alternative to American leadership is a dramatically more dangerous and anxious world. Yet we also choose to lead because it is a privilege to serve the values that gave us birth. American leaders -- from Roosevelt to Truman to Kennedy to Reagan  rejected isolation and retreat, because they knew that America is always more secure when freedom is on the march. Our own generation is in a long war against a determined enemy -- a war that will be fought by Presidents of both parties, who will need steady bipartisan support from the Congress. And tonight I ask for yours.

Since i forgot to ask for not only your support but the support of congress before i got us into this mess.

Together, let us protect our country, support the men and women who defend us, and lead this world toward freedom.

dig

Here at home, America also has a great opportunity: We will build the prosperity of our country by strengthening our economic leadership in the world.

or strongarming it, y'know, whatever works.

Our economy is healthy, and vigorous, and growing faster than other major industrialized nations. In the last two-and-a-half years, America has created 4.6 million new jobs

with padded and shuffled numbers meant to reflect the good of the administration, not the absolute facts.

-- more than Japan and the European Union combined. Even in the face of higher energy prices and natural disasters, the American people have turned in an economic performance that is the envy of the world.

EXACTLY, the PEOPLE put the right foot forward.

The American economy is pre-eminent -- but we cannot afford to be complacent. In a dynamic world economy, we are seeing new competitors like China and India. This creates uncertainty, which makes it easier to feed people's fears.

Something he's very good at, and recognizes instantly.

And so we are seeing some old temptations return. Protectionists want to escape competition, pretending that we can keep our high standard of living while walling off our economy. Others say that the government needs to take a larger role in directing the economy, centralizing more power in Washington and increasing taxes. We hear claims that immigrants are somehow bad for the economy -- even though this economy could not function without them. All these are forms of economic retreat, and they lead in the same direction -- toward a stagnant and second-rate economy.

blah blah, what to do about economics, just once i wish instead of having these vague schools of thought thrown at us we got to VOTE on something instead of someone.

Tonight I will set out a better path -- an agenda for a Nation that competes with confidence -- an agenda that will raise standards of living and generate new jobs. Americans should not fear our economic future, because we intend to shape it.

what happened to you and i?

Keeping America competitive begins with keeping our economy growing. And our economy grows when Americans have more of their own money to spend, save, and invest. In the last five years, the tax relief you passed has left 880 billion dollars in the hands of American workers, investors, small businesses, and families -- and they have used it to help produce more than four years of uninterrupted economic growth. Yet the tax relief is set to expire in the next few years. If we do nothing, American families will face a massive tax increase they do not expect and will not welcome.

much like they reacted to his "tax cuts".

Because America needs more than a temporary expansion, we need more than temporary tax relief. I urge the Congress to act responsibly, and make the tax cuts permanent.

Keeping America competitive requires us to be good stewards of tax dollars.

by spending money on all but non-existant security measures and going to war on ideals, and cutting programs to help those who live in poverty.

Every year of my presidency, we have reduced the growth of non-security discretionary spending -- and last year you passed bills that cut this spending. This year my budget will cut it again, and reduce or eliminate more than 140 programs that are performing poorly or not fulfilling essential priorities. By passing these reforms, we will save the American taxpayer another 14 billion dollars next year -- and stay on track to cut the deficit in half by 2009. I am pleased that Members of Congress are working on earmark reform -- because the Federal budget has too many special interest projects. And we can tackle this problem together, if you pass the line-item veto.

can't exactly comment to this, i'm sure there's a slant on it somewhere.

We must also confront the larger challenge of mandatory spending, or entitlements. This year, the first of about 78 million Baby Boomers turn 60, including two of my Dad's favorite people -- me, and President Bill Clinton. This milestone is more than a personal crisis -- it is a national challenge. The retirement of the Baby Boom generation will put unprecedented strains on the Federal government. By 2030, spending for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid alone will be almost 60 percent of the entire Federal budget. And that will present future Congresses with impossible choices -- staggering tax increases, immense deficits, or deep cuts in every category of spending.

Yea, sure we've known it was broke for years now and did nothing, you foot the bill now .. and by now i mean i need a fucking check, dammit. While we're on the subject of medicare TN's system has recently crumbled to nothingness leaving thousands upon thousands with no healthcare, government reform in action.

Congress did not act last year on my proposal to save Social Security, yet the rising cost of entitlements is a problem that is not going away -- and with every year we fail to act, the situation gets worse. So tonight, I ask you to join me in creating a commission to examine the full impact of Baby Boom retirements on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. This commission should include Members of Congress of both parties, and offer bipartisan answers. We need to put aside partisan politics, work together, and get this problem solved.

Nothing i can say i didn't say a second ago ... kinda funny, nothing new he said he didn't say a paragraph ago.

Keeping America competitive requires us to open more markets for all that Americans make and grow. One out of every five factory jobs in America is related to global trade, and we want people everywhere to buy American. With open markets and a level playing field, no one can out-produce or out-compete the American worker.

1 out of every 5 JOBS has been outsourced overseas. Let's be clear about this next bit: We want people to buy from american companies, where the shit is made is of no consequence.

Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws, reflects our values, and serves the interests of our economy. Our Nation needs orderly and secure borders. To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection. And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty ... allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally ... and reduces smuggling and crime at the border.

the border which he opened.

Keeping America competitive requires affordable health care.

Affordable health care <--- oxymoron in this society. Also not his fault.:shock:

Our government has a responsibility to help provide health care for the poor and the elderly, and we are meeting that responsibility.

or not .. whatever.

For all Americans, we must confront the rising cost of care ... strengthen the doctor-patient relationship ... and help people afford the insurance coverage they need. We will make wider use of electronic records and other health information technology, to help control costs and reduce dangerous medical errors. We will strengthen Health Savings Accounts -- by making sure individuals and small business employees can buy insurance with the same advantages that people working for big businesses now get. We will do more to make this coverage portable, so workers can switch jobs without having to worry about losing their health insurance. And because lawsuits are driving many good doctors out of practice -- leaving women in nearly 1,500 American counties without a single OB-GYN -- I ask the Congress to pass medical liability reform this year.

believe it when you see it, not until then.

Keeping America competitive requires affordable energy. Here we have a serious problem: America is addicted to oil, which is often imported from unstable parts of the world.

this coming from an oil family guy whose been in bed with the saudis from day one.

The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly 10 billion dollars to develop cleaner, cheaper, more reliable alternative energy sources -- and we are on the threshold of incredible advances. So tonight, I announce the Advanced Energy Initiative -- a 22-percent increase in clean-energy research at the Department of Energy, to push for breakthroughs in two vital areas. To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission coal-fired plants; revolutionary solar and wind technologies; and clean, safe nuclear energy.

Hasen't this been something we've been doing for a while .. providing tax breaks for hybrids and that sort of thing? wow .. a continuation of a good idea, sweet deal.

We must also change how we power our automobiles. We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars, and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen. We will also fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn but from wood chips, stalks, or switch grass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within six years. Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. By applying the talent and technology of America, this country can dramatically improve our environment ... move beyond a petroleum-based economy ... and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past.

See above.

And to keep America competitive, one commitment is necessary above all: We must continue to lead the world in human talent and creativity. Our greatest advantage in the world has always been our educated, hard-working, ambitious people -- and we are going to keep that edge. Tonight I announce the American Competitiveness Initiative, to encourage innovation throughout our economy, and to give our Nation's children a firm grounding in math and science.

Meanwhile he cut the cap ammount students recieve from grants and gave more out in the name of padding his numbers. Again believe it once you see it, not until then. My guess is we'll still be the stupidest nation in the world 10 years from now.

First: I propose to double the Federal commitment to the most critical basic research programs in the physical sciences over the next ten years. This funding will support the work of America's most creative minds as they explore promising areas such as nanotechnology, supercomputing, and alternative energy sources.

promises promises, where's the action he's all too well known for?

Second: I propose to make permanent the research and development tax credit, to encourage bolder private-sector investment in technology. With more research in both the public and private sectors, we will improve our quality of life -- and ensure that America will lead the world in opportunity and innovation for decades to come.

Above.

Third: We need to encourage children to take more math and science, and make sure those courses are rigorous enough to compete with other nations.

LOLCOMPETITIVE-EDUCATION.

We have made a good start in the early grades with the No Child Left Behind Act,

which is failing miserably and providing people to society who can't understand i don't want fucking onions on my burger.

which is raising standards and lifting test scores across our country.

by adjusting the grades of people who just don't get it and passing them through anyway.

Tonight I propose to train 70,000 high school teachers, to lead advanced-placement courses in math and science ... bring 30,000 math and science professionals to teach in classrooms

From where?

... and give early help to students who struggle with math, so they have a better chance at good, high-wage jobs. If we ensure that America's children succeed in life, they will ensure that America succeeds in the world.

Seriously, the thought of children today being in power later makes me hope i die soon.

Preparing our Nation to compete in the world is a goal that all of us can share. I urge you to support the American Competitiveness Initiative ... and together we will show the world what the American people can achieve.

who's got us so insecure that we need to be competitive about everything?


America is a great force for freedom and prosperity. Yet our greatness is not measured in power or luxuries,

which is how he measures his "base"

but by who we are and how we treat one another.

which is terribly

So we strive to be a compassionate, decent, hopeful society.

where the fuck does this guy live again?

In recent years, America has become a more hopeful Nation.

replace hopefull with pesimistic and you have that right.

Violent crime rates have fallen to their lowest levels since the 1970s. Welfare cases have dropped by more than half over the past decade. Drug use among youth is down 19 percent since 2001. There are fewer abortions in America than at any point in the last three decades, and the number of children born to teenage mothers has been falling for a dozen years in a row.

I can't really subjectively comment on these numbers as i live in the fucking teen-pregnancy capitol of the nation. Meth use is staggering around here too .. so meh.

These gains are evidence of a quiet transformation -- a revolution of conscience, in which a rising generation is finding that a life of personal responsibility is a life of fulfillment.

lmao

Government has played a role.

lmfao

Wise policies such as welfare reform, drug education, and support for abstinence and adoption have made a difference in the character of our country. And everyone here tonight, Democrat and Republican, has a right to be proud of this record.

See above.

Yet many Americans, especially parents, still have deep concerns about the direction of our culture, and the health of our most basic institutions.

Guilty as charged.

They are concerned about unethical conduct by public officials, and discouraged by activist courts that try to redefine marriage.

most of the country really doesn't give a flying shit about that last part.

And they worry about children in our society who need direction and love ... and about fellow citizens still displaced by natural disaster ... and about suffering caused by treatable disease.

we do, his actions don't prove he does .. what's wrong with this picture?

As we look at these challenges, we must never give in to the belief that America is in decline, or that our culture is doomed to unravel. The American people know better than that. We have proven the pessimists wrong before -- and we will do it again.

As much as i'd love to agree here it's simply too jaded a statement.

A hopeful society depends on courts that deliver equal justice under law. The Supreme Court now has two superb new members, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Sam Alito. I thank the Senate for confirming both of them. And I will continue to nominate men and women who understand that judges must be servants of the law, and not legislate from the bench. Today marks the official retirement of a very special American. For 24 years of faithful service to our Nation, the United States is grateful to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

yadda yadda, symbolic victory.

A hopeful society has institutions of science and medicine that do not cut ethical corners, and that recognize the matchless value of every life. Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research -- human cloning in all its forms ... creating or implanting embryos for experiments ... creating human-animal hybrids ... and buying, selling, or patenting human embryos. Human life is a gift from our Creator -- and that gift should never be discarded, devalued, or put up for sale.

you heard it here first, GW is not down with mithras. Everything about the human cloning and hybrids i can kinda dig but using embryos for stem cells and stuff is something i'm kinda for if someone can show that it'll work.

A hopeful society expects elected officials to uphold the public trust.

lolpresident.

Honorable people in both parties are working on reforms to strengthen the ethical standards of Washington -- and I support your efforts. Each of us has made a pledge to be worthy of public responsibility -- and that is a pledge we must never forget, never dismiss, and never betray.

i can't really say wholeheartedly agree with this on both sides of the isle ... buncha corrupt douchebags. I'm not for a two party system, honestly, i'm even less for OUR two party system.

As we renew the promise of our institutions, let us also show the character of America in our compassion and care for one another.

A hopeful society gives special attention to children who lack direction and love. Through the Helping America's Youth Initiative, we are encouraging caring adults to get involved in the life of a child -- and this good work is led by our First Lady, Laura Bush. This year we will add resources to encourage young people to stay in school -- so more of America's youth can raise their sights and achieve their dreams.

Good idea. Hope it works.

A hopeful society comes to the aid of fellow citizens in times of suffering and emergency -- and stays at it until they are back on their feet.

LOLKATRINA.

So far the Federal government has committed 85 billion dollars to the people of the Gulf Coast and New Orleans. We are removing debris, repairing highways, and building stronger levees. We are providing business loans

to non-local contractors.

and housing assistance. Yet as we meet these immediate needs, we must also address deeper challenges that existed before the storm arrived.

like the fact THEY LIVE UNDERWATER ON THE FUCKING COAST, GTFO for god's sake.

In New Orleans and in other places, many of our fellow citizens have felt excluded from the promise of our country. The answer is not only temporary relief, but schools that teach every child ... and job skills that bring upward mobility & and more opportunities to own a home and start a business.

Utopia ... ultimately doomed to either not exist or fail horribly.

As we recover from a disaster, let us also work for the day when all Americans are protected by justice, equal in hope, and rich in opportunity.

A hopeful society acts boldly to fight diseases like HIV/AIDS, which can be prevented, and treated, and defeated. More than a million Americans live with HIV, and half of all AIDS cases occur among African-Americans. I ask Congress to reform and reauthorize the Ryan White Act ... and provide new funding to states, so we end the waiting lists for AIDS medicine in America. We will also lead a nationwide effort, working closely with African-American churches and faith-based groups, to deliver rapid HIV tests to millions, end the stigma of AIDS, and come closer to the day when there are no new infections in America.

repost, shoulda said this shit way back up there.

Fellow citizens, we have been called to leadership in a period of consequence. We have entered a great ideological conflict we did nothing to invite.

Is he fucking serious? He invited it ... wtf?

We see great changes in science and commerce that will influence all our lives. And sometimes it can seem that history is turning in a wide arc, toward an unknown shore.

Just sometimes ..... not ALWAYS.

Yet the destination of history is determined by human action,

let's not leave out inhuman action.

and every great movement of history comes to a point of choosing.

and being denied choice.

Lincoln could have accepted peace at the cost of disunity and continued slavery. Martin Luther King could have stopped at Birmingham or at Selma, and achieved only half a victory over segregation. The United States could have accepted the permanent division of Europe, and been complicit in the oppression of others.

"I could have accepted the outcome of the popular vote in my first election.."

Today, having come far in our own historical journey, we must decide: Will we turn back, or finish well?

at this point i'd say we all just wanna finish, well or not.

Before history is written down in books, it is written in courage. Like Americans before us, we will show that courage and we will finish well.

someone pick up a history book and tell me how we got to today, did we do well or did we commit atrocity after atrocity until we started to get it right?

We will lead freedom's advance. We will compete and excel in the global economy. We will renew the defining moral commitments of this land. And so we move forward  optimistic about our country, faithful to its cause, and confident of victories to come.


i'm a pesimist, sue me.

Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless America.

This is only my opinion. don't like my politics or opinions? great, don't vote for me, speak your mind with some ammount of intelligence and call me out on what i'm wrong about, i'd prefer this not get to poop-flinging but i'm sure many think this post makes it way too late for that. I'm cool with that but let's at least have some kind of inspired debate.


now .. if you'll excuse me .. my brain and fingers hurt.
 
lol did you not see the looks on the Democrats' faces? ...priceless...

2008 can I add you to my friends list?
 
Thanks for killing the thread Mokk with your text-bomb.
Now I'll never know how the war on man-beasts is going
 
lmao, sorry .. it is a huge TL;DR .. but then again .. so far so's this administration.
 
Mokk, after reading through your comments you are in no position to criticize the president. Your comments are petty and nit picking. Your comments don't even counter or make a point. You just sling unsupported one liners (many copied from Farenheit 9/11). Can't believe I wasted time reading that.
 
Rones said:
Mokk, after reading through your comments you are in no position to criticize the president. Your comments are petty and nit picking. Your comments don't even counter or make a point. You just sling unsupported one liners (many copied from Farenheit 9/11). Can't believe I wasted time reading that.

I copied nothing from anything.

Pardon me, isn't every legal citizen in a position to criticize the president as a public official?

God forbid you have a sense of humor about it. :P

Call it what you want, i stated they were my opinions at the start, you should have known better to waste your time with that by now, rones. :)
 
I now see why this is in the FB..
It's full of absolute and utter ignorance.
Mokk did okay, he made his points and validated a few. While I disagree its better than you bitches who whine and cry and give no thought to it.
Please, learn politics. Until you understand them, GTFO.
Simple. Bush may be a moron, but he knows a fuckload more than anyone and everyone on this board added up. Sure you are free to voice your opinion, but please think first. You left wing idiots can't do anything right, but expect right wing to be perfect. If a democrat says it its okay but if a republican says it OMGSTFU. Please GTFO of politics before you hurt your miniscule minds. I'd hate you to be leaking grey fluid from the ears because you tried to rationalize a leftist view.
Wanna look over some shit? Guy who worked for Clinton hushed up information that led to 9/11's lack of preperation.
Wanna bitch about Bush taking 3 days to get to those morons in LA? How about the "guv'nah" who knew three days in ADVANCE they had to evacuate and did NOTHING.
I find it funny to see a DEMOCRAT run and owned for 25 years place got fucked so hard.. FL gets hit by hurricanes all the time, Alabama got hit by Katrina as well.
Both of these states are run by republicans
Both these states recovered rather hastily.
LA.. is trash. Some 25% poverty? yeah nice job the democrats are doing.
They have received the MOST federal support of ANY STATE IN THE US. Including Cali OMG! Wheres it go? Who the fuck knows.. but they didnt have any locks did they? They didnt work on their poverty either. GG
And more.. so much more.. so easy too. Left wing is a joke.
Set up a point, it will be brought down. Don't even bother justifying your ignorance please. ^^
Thank you Mokk for the post. I don't listen to them cause I think Bush is a moron, but I will say ANYTHING is better than Kerry. ^^ (or Clinton... dear god)

Thats gonna stir Clinton talk. Don't bother. You will get buried.
 
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