Stop buying Ulli stones, you *#%*tards
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Firestreak said:
I'm sure this pointless comment by firestreak will be much appreciated too, because it is chock full of insight!
Every thread bajaratt and firestreak manages to post in becomes derailed and degenerated, but that's the sort of thing that makes internet forums so amusing, isn't it?
Zion said:
I buy Pebbles.
Didn't see the post or know about it till some person... (You posted on here you know who you are...) Sent me a /tell accusing me of buying....
Kind of makes me sick to think RMT can sell at the asking price or even worse people would buy. I find it easy to outclaim RMT, its the other camping shells that are the competition I worry about.
RMT usually only control 3 atmost at a time. Also seems that they have crappy bots lately if they are using.
The only RMT I have trouble camping is the ones using god gear. MNK and NIN with Byakko's Haidate and BRD WHM BLM group.
I know for fact that they cheat like hell....
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metachronism said:
Oy vay, Metachronism wants to fight. Sorry but I've gone on that circus ride enough times to realize that arguing with you is about as useful as... well, fuck, something not bloody useful. Nor entertaining, as you're rather boring. And I won't go as far as to call you stupid, but you don't use very much logic and we'll leave it at that.
I urge anyone to simply ignore the pointless derails such as 'JP better than NA' or if the OP has apologized profusely enough to the wrongly named LS or not and respond to the decent posts at hand, because quite frankly I don't really give a shit and quite frankly Meta arguing against a person or linkshell only makes them seem more credible by giving them easy arguments to distract attentions from hard ones.
Veresko said:
If there was a way for me to block buying from certain players through AH I would. As it stands, there isn't and there is nothing I can do about that.
There is something I can do about what bazaar I buy from. If I see an RMT bazaar, I wont buy from it. They used to sell of the hakutaku eyes cheap back in the day, but as I learned the names of the RMT I stopped doing so.
There is HUGE difference between knowing you are buying, and not knowing. At AH, no one knows who is on the other end. There are plenty of legit players who are selling consumables, and high end items that RMT sell as well. They aren't the only ones with shihei, V. claws, and other items.
When I had my character up there for a two week period I never saw Rawr there, doesn't mean I can toss your LS under the bus as people who buy from GS.
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Firestreak said:
If you're going to back away from a mudslinging war like a cowardly bitch, don't start one. LEARN. Oh wait, if you were any good at that, you wouldn't be on QCDN 24/7. My bad.
I have no clue what the hell you're trying to say in the second paragraph, but what's clear is that it is not pertinent to the thread topic.
I've said this so many times on this goddamned board, and some of you just don't seem to get it. If you're gonna apologize for it later, don' do stupid shit (slandering people falls into "stupid shit" category in my books. Maybe it's a-ok where you guys come from). What the hell is up with some of you who think saying sorry amends everything? More often than not, the damage is irrevocable.
Ok if you want to take it as "I'm afraid of you" rather than that I have better things to do than argue with somebody who makes as much sense as Blazn with better grammar, then go ahead.
Hey guys, I'm going to derail this thread even more than it has been because I'm a racist who shows obvious signs of blatant bigotry towards a video games players that I deem unworthy because they're from another place than me. Then when people say I'm derailing the thread, I'll retort with that they're derailing the thread by telling me that I'm derailing the thread and call them cowardly bitches because they don't want to take part in thread derailment which is against the rules but I don't care, because I'm better than anyone because of where I was born and rules don't apply to me.
Did I miss anything? My apologies, but I am awfully tired considering the time.
Did I miss anything? My apologies, but I am awfully tired considering the time.
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Uli can pop 14 times a week if all pops on 12hrsCelvantes said:
Most LSes like poping kirin 1-4 times a week, but there are more LSes out there then like 3-5
1~2 EU Lses
2~4 JPS
Idk how many NA, but there is not enough uli pops for enough LSes to richest ones comes first who can buy them off RMT, or good claimers.
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I have 2 major issues with the buying of popsets.
First and foremost, by encouraging RMT to spend more time in sky camping mobs, you fuck over the people that aren't willing to do the same. Rationalize it however you like, but you are the reason that legitimate shells have a much harder time at Ulli because they're fighting 3 assholes running a party each with enough claim bots to simply shock Ulli into submission.
Secondly, you're no different from the kid that goes out and maxes out his mommy's credit card buying gil. No different whatsoever. You justify the action the exact same way, you help RMT the same way, and the server as a whole loses out when you do stupid shit like that.
First and foremost, by encouraging RMT to spend more time in sky camping mobs, you fuck over the people that aren't willing to do the same. Rationalize it however you like, but you are the reason that legitimate shells have a much harder time at Ulli because they're fighting 3 assholes running a party each with enough claim bots to simply shock Ulli into submission.
Secondly, you're no different from the kid that goes out and maxes out his mommy's credit card buying gil. No different whatsoever. You justify the action the exact same way, you help RMT the same way, and the server as a whole loses out when you do stupid shit like that.
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Supporting RMT is terrible. People who buy from them are not earning the gear or their Kirin pop sets. It hurts the server even more. Am I impressed by a 1 minute Kirin? Not anymore :\ I used to think of Kaizen more as a role model NA LS for end game. I'm really dissapointed. If you want to see the RMT out of sky, stop buying their crap. If you keep buying RMT stones you don't belong in sky. 
Its funny I have seen these people bitch about RMT but then buy from them.... Thats kind of like bitching about a war but sending the enemy money to fund it.
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So your all saying you'd rather have all these linkshells up there ccing with you all? Cause If the mentioned names are really buying shells cause they have extra gil floating around then Its probably safe to say that they are experienced and would be a hell of alot harder to outclaim. Not to mention it's not going to stop the rmt from camping him.
This thread is retarded. Really if all these 2nd rate shells had the gil to avoid standing around for 10-15 hours a day to avoid camping ulli than wouldnt you? Ulli is the reason so many people hate farming sky. God If these shells didnt buy stones I can see the flames, OMG they must bot cause my shell can't get ulli that much. You all cry now but if things changed and all the stone buying shells went up and started camping how many less Byakko's do you think there would be to go around?
And another point. Buying rmt items may not be the best thing to do, Honestly I'd rather people didn't either. But not buying ulli stone isn't going to stop the rmt's. If stopping the rmt's is what everyone wants so much, which judging by most of the posts thus far it is, then stop god damn buying gil. Really start flaming people who need to be flamed, like Fubio. The guy who apparantly was hacked for 65mil recently but was seen the next day shouting to sell HQ nobles, SH, and royals tunic. Why does someone hack 65mil from an account and forget those items?
Ulli's stone makes up such a small amount compared to what the sellers make. Start flaming the people that are buying their gil giving them a reason to sell items weather they be on the AH or shouting in cities or in a bazaar. Stop crying because your shell can't afford to cut out possibly the worst camped NM in the game.
This thread is retarded. Really if all these 2nd rate shells had the gil to avoid standing around for 10-15 hours a day to avoid camping ulli than wouldnt you? Ulli is the reason so many people hate farming sky. God If these shells didnt buy stones I can see the flames, OMG they must bot cause my shell can't get ulli that much. You all cry now but if things changed and all the stone buying shells went up and started camping how many less Byakko's do you think there would be to go around?
And another point. Buying rmt items may not be the best thing to do, Honestly I'd rather people didn't either. But not buying ulli stone isn't going to stop the rmt's. If stopping the rmt's is what everyone wants so much, which judging by most of the posts thus far it is, then stop god damn buying gil. Really start flaming people who need to be flamed, like Fubio. The guy who apparantly was hacked for 65mil recently but was seen the next day shouting to sell HQ nobles, SH, and royals tunic. Why does someone hack 65mil from an account and forget those items?
Ulli's stone makes up such a small amount compared to what the sellers make. Start flaming the people that are buying their gil giving them a reason to sell items weather they be on the AH or shouting in cities or in a bazaar. Stop crying because your shell can't afford to cut out possibly the worst camped NM in the game.
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I'd say having any legitimate LS countercamping me is preferable to RMT doing it, not only that, but if there are still RMT present, it presents a greater ratio of players to RMT.Invincible said:
You're right here, after these linkshells demonstrated that there are fools who will eventually crack and buy from them.Invincible said:
So, is this statement still valid?Invincible said:
The exact same number of legitimate ones.Invincible said:
If something the RMT did was completely and utterly fruitless, I'm sure they would eventually stop. They aren't up in sky to have fun playing with ulli, they are there to make gil, and nothing else, but again, we have some LSes to thank for not waiting them out. Now they will not leave ever. That much is for certain.Invincible said:
I agree with this much. Gilbuyers need to be reamed just like the rest.Invincible said:
Also, when are we going to get that rule back requiring character name?
Invincible said:
Anonymous posting at its finest.
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If Invincible actually knew what happened with that account mixup. Why does someone hack 65mil and then give it back?
...He might realize that Fubs > You. Calling him a gilbuyer is absolutly ludacris if you know the guy, he can't support the $2000+ it would take to buy all the items he owns.
Oh, and you forgot about the Speed Belt, Kraken club, among many other sought items.
Served. A la GTFO.
...He might realize that Fubs > You. Calling him a gilbuyer is absolutly ludacris if you know the guy, he can't support the $2000+ it would take to buy all the items he owns.
Oh, and you forgot about the Speed Belt, Kraken club, among many other sought items.
Served. A la GTFO.
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The lack of any debate from the shells involved makes this thread just fail. Which is most likely their intention, why bother dealing with some retarded QCDN drama. Endgame is cutthroat, the small sense of order and morality that exists is out of necessity and is at best a false sense of order and ethics. Endgame is about killing and getting gear, mainly just getting gear. LS's will do whatever it takes. Never kiss any LS's ass or hold them in any sort of great esteem based on how ethical you think they are, its all 16-30 year olds wasting time for some sort of amusement and searching to find any admirable qualities stemming from that is an exercise and futility. Buy all the Ulli stones in the world, kill Kirin in 59 secs and ejaculate when you get full tp return on Rampage, in the end it doesn't matter. That isn't at Kaizen, that is at everyone who finds some sense of real accomplishment in the act of being able to excel at the destruction of a pixelated creature by pushing bigger numbers through an equation in code.