Stop buying Ulli stones, you *#%*tards

Medicineman said:
Oh and note- LARGE said that Celvantes, Ajs, and syliph bought gil ^^ quick everyone flame them!
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Large has been banned for what, two months? You chat with him on MSN/AIM or something?
 
Bajaratt said:
I'm amazed you can talk so much with your mouth so full of shit.

Please point out where anyone is claiming to represent the NA player base? I sure don't remember saying "I am Bajaratt, I AM NA." I'm curious what group you're representing, because if you're their representative, they're all bigoted idiots who don't bother to read posts and just respond to what they think was said.

As yet, you haven't contributed anything to this thread other than to tout that you think that JP > NA.
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I said whatever some NA ls will manage to do, some JP LS *will* have the resouces to do it better. Whether you attribute that to "skills" or "equipment" or whatever, that is a simple fact. There is no subjectivity to this. It's factual. Accept it. If you consider that an attack to you and your fellow brethren, you are just another gimp with a persecution complex, which you have shown to be the case.

If you want me to break down the semantics, here you go:
me: if some NA LS can do it, there will be some JP LS with the resources to do it better
you: but NAs have cool equipment too!
me: you're a stupid item whore, and the ubiquity of people like you in the NA community is the very reason that my first claim is true.

Now, how the hell do you take this and call it a claim of JP superiority? Does this make any statement about the average equipment OR skill of players from either community?

You only MADE it into one, because your inferiority complex made you see the words "JP" "NA" and "better" in the same sentence.

I hate how I have to reiterate something like 3 times to some of you. The same damn ones too. Over and over. Can I just call you guys the stooges?
 
metachronism said:
I said whatever some NA ls will manage to do, some JP LS *will* have the resouces to do it better. Whether you attribute that to "skills" or "equipment" or whatever, that is a simple fact. There is no subjectivity to this. It's factual. Accept it. If you consider that an attack to you and your fellow brethren, you are just another gimp with a persecution complex, which you have shown to be the case.

If you want me to break down the semantics, here you go:
me: if some NA LS can do it, there will be some JP LS with the resources to do it better
you: but NAs have cool equipment too!
me: you're a stupid item whore, and the ubiquity of people like you in the NA community is the very reason that my first claim is true.

Now, how the hell do you take this and call it a claim of JP superiority? Does this make any statement about the average equipment OR skill of players from either community?

You only MADE it into one, because your inferiority complex made you see the words "JP" "NA" and "better" in the same sentence.

I hate how I have to reiterate something like 3 times to some of you. The same damn ones too. Over and over. Can I just call you guys the stooges?
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It's great how you contradict yourself and you just ignore it. Calling me "a stupid item whore" but apparently the JP have more of these stupid items so they can do anything better. If they have more resources, then they're just bigger "stupid item whores" so they're obviously inferior to me. Saying they have more resources, and can therefore do anything better is a claim of superiority.

I hate how I have to keep showing how full of shit you are, but whatever; just go back to whatever LS you're in and spam WWWWWWWW. Maybe they'll throw you a bone and give you some gear/gil if you swallow.
 
Hiii There..... I got a question for ya....

If the moon was made out of spare Ribs... Would ya eat it?

I know I would.... It'd be Delicious
 
Bajaratt said:
It's great how you contradict yourself and you just ignore it. Calling me "a stupid item whore" but apparently the JP have more of these stupid items so they can do anything better. If they have more resources, then they're just bigger "stupid item whores" so they're obviously inferior to me. Saying they have more resources, and can therefore do anything better is a claim of superiority.

I hate how I have to keep showing how full of shit you are, but whatever; just go back to whatever LS you're in and spam WWWWWWWW. Maybe they'll throw you a bone and give you some gear/gil if you swallow.
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...What the...

1) It was the VERY mentality of "have rare items" = "good results" that I criticized YOU for, because you assumed the results are solely dependent on equipment. Notice where I say "whether you attribute that to...". But yeah, of course, you didn't read, right?

2) The existence of a subset which is superior is not a claim of general superiority. This is not even set theory. This is common sense. Bill Gates lives in Washington. He is sure the hell richer than any of us. Are you going to claim Washington has a higher per capita income than Connecticut? Oh sorry, I'm "not making sense" to you again. Too complicated, I guess.

Gimps like you who idolize the "elite" LSs just on account of their collection of equipment is exactly why we have sypathizers who say "yeah, buying from rmt is cool cuz they can kill kirin fast man!!!!"
 
Medicineman said:
Oh and note- LARGE said that Celvantes, Ajs, and syliph bought gil ^^ quick everyone flame them!
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LOL

I'm sorry that your LS is a worthless piece of shit, I'm just pointing it out to you ;) I definitely would trust my source (not gonna name him because he doesn't wanna get into this shit) over you. Just quit fucking end-game, you're a fucking disgrace.



Metachronism said:
1) It was the VERY mentality of "have rare items" = "good results" that I criticized YOU for, because you assumed the results are solely dependent on equipment. Notice where I say "whether you attribute that to...". But yeah, of course, you didn't read, right?
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Rare items IS good results. Having skill won't make you magically hit Kirin 3x harder with 95% accuracy. Having Adaberk and other good gear will. Sure, if you have a bunch of idiots the good gear will do nothing because they'll end up killing themselves... but majority of the people that get good gear know what the fuck they're doing and won't do stupid shit. Beyond that, the only "skill" you need in FFXI is knowing what to do in specific situations that you can learn in the 5 minutes before a fight.
 
We are having alot of problems camping Ulli and we DON'T buy ulli's stones no matter how desperate we are. I don't know who the fuck is saying this shit but I dont give a fuck Rawr. I don't know what is wrong with you nikoloi but we haven't done any shit to do, you became an asshole since you were an officer of RAWR, an Osode, some flame rings and a pearlsack dont make you uber dude, ad yes, most of our LS has very sucky gear, most ppl are new and if we wipe to a byakko, we continue, why? because they are learning and i'm pretty sure that all the sky ls's when they start, they wipe to one god or another.

I'm pretty sure syliph made this rumour, but I don't care, because all BDS members know is a lie, and we are working so that all members progress in end-game and get hes stuff cause they deserve it, is hard work but we trying to be very flexible cause we know ppl work and RL is more important.

Nikoloi, do you see a member in our shell with a pair of byakko's haidate or do you see us not going to camp Ulli? we camp Ulli as you guys do and we work our ass off for our stuff, don't "lmao" you fucking asshole, at least we get our shit by ourselves, you have the gear you have right now cause of your friend NIN that quit, or else youll be still as a gimp ass DRK you were, I get my shit by my own, and still working on it.
 
Darkseifer said:
We are having alot of problems camping Ulli and we DON'T buy ulli's stones no matter how desperate we are. I don't know who the fuck is saying this shit but I dont give a fuck Rawr. I don't know what is wrong with you nikoloi but we haven't done any shit to do, you became an asshole since you were an officer of RAWR, an Osode, some flame rings and a pearlsack dont make you uber dude, ad yes, most of our LS has very sucky gear, most ppl are new and if we wipe to a byakko, we continue, why? because they are learning and i'm pretty sure that all the sky ls's when they start, they wipe to one god or another.

I'm pretty sure syliph made this rumour, but I don't care, because all BDS members know is a lie, and we are working so that all members progress in end-game and get hes stuff cause they deserve it, is hard work but we trying to be very flexible cause we know ppl work and RL is more important.

Nikoloi, do you see a member in our shell with a pair of byakko's haidate or do you see us not going to camp Ulli? we camp Ulli as you guys do and we work our ass off for our stuff, don't "lmao" you fucking asshole, at least we get our shit by ourselves, you have the gear you have right now cause of your friend NIN that quit, or else youll be still as a gimp ass DRK you were, I get my shit by my own, and still working on it.
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"Doh" came to flame :banned:
 
Zion said:
"Doh" came to flame :banned:
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I had to came to the flame because what celvantes said is a lie. Yesterday, 9 of november @ 7m EST, we started to camp Ulli, all night until @10pm est RAWR took claim. I dont know why they are saying we buy stones, if we do, why are we wasting our time camping it if we could buy the stones?

Most of all thursdays we camp Ulli unless we know it poped and we shoudn't go there to waste our time so we go get Zip, MG or other stone.

I would say that 90% of our shell is based of new members that dont have any Idea of what they have to do and some1 has to teach them one way or another.
 
Darkseifer said:
I would say that 90% of our shell is based of new members that dont have any Idea of what they have to do and some1 has to teach them one way or another.
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And making a shell comprised of this demographic is smart because.....
 
Claudhert said:
Hiii There..... I got a question for ya....

If the moon was made out of spare Ribs... Would ya eat it?

I know I would.... It'd be Delicious
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I would!! :D
 
Um....k.

Syliph said:
oh and celv... i dont recall anyone sayin anything about Fury...
Their legit.....
(Cept Galiant.... hes a goober)
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I was perfectly content with not being involved with this thread, but thank you Syliph for bringing me into it.

Buying Autumnstones: I personally wouldn't do it if I had the gil, but who am I to tell people what they should and should not do with their gil?

Ok, back to Syliph. Get your facts straight before you bring an innocent's name into the fray of the flameboard. I am 'not' in Fury. I am in Rawr. I belonged to Rawr when 'you' were in Rawr. We fought gods together. Not big on short term memory, I guess. You claimed someone else was using your character at that time, but I don't buy it. You also told me you'd edit your post so I wouldn't be called out but I see that hasn't been done either. Oh well, too late now. I'm already involved.

I apologize to everyone else for swinging off topic, just wanted to get that off my chest.
 
decidence said:
1. Buying from RMT Bazaar is same as buying Ochiudo's Kote off the AH (or any other drop thats monopolized by RMT).

2. Ignorance is not an excuse to me. You can't play both sides of the fence. BTW personally buy from anyone, I don't care who they are if it helps me get ahead or saves me time, and I don't care what anyone thinks about it because it's not your gil anyways. If people want to buy gil and waste their irl money on it, that's their perogative... some people just don't have a social life to spend their money on.

3. JP on a per capita basis has much more rare end-game gear then NA's... and that probably won't change for a long time. Also look at where most the Stage 5 Relic Weapons belong too.

4. Skill in this game is trivial. There is no twitch action to this game, theres no skill in claiming since the delay patch. If you aren't good at this game and your job within a few weeks then there is very little room for any improvement. Once you know the behaviour of a mob its just a matter of repeating your response to its behaviours... nothing changes. It really comes down to time or money and which one you have to spend to make your character uber.

5. The only reason RMT bother with Ulli is because of demand for Byakko. And that's simply because theres so many reject players that had to make their own sky shells. And with so many NA LS's wanting sky equip now its almost impossible. Keep in mind that the first NA Sky LS's were Kaizen, BoL, Outterheaven and NotoriousHunters. Two of those LS's are STILL doing Sky and the only reason the other two aren't is because they died.

SE fucked up in making Sky so time consuming, it takes forever for LS's to get out of sky because of the turnover on membership and the need to get new members equipment all the time. And every month more and more people join the Sky Farming fold. JP's were done with the drama in Sky a long time ago, why don't we follow suit? This is where we fuck up, because we care too much about having stupid pieces of equipment that are the best and can't handle having second best or trying to come up with an original setup with fear that we will get flamed on QCDN or something.
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fuck it, I changed my mind, I'm going to cheat like all the top LSs do. So I'm going to buy a PC, get a bot to claim kings. Then a bot to get fishing to 100, then level GS and be uber rich.

Now I'm on the path to success in a video, CHEATING GOGOGO!!!
 
Not really RMT causeing problems... Fury maybe lost claim to RMT once.. ullik just isnt poping as often as he used too.. 8-12 hour repop is very common now. we can blame the rmt but thats a easy way out. SE is just making byakko's haidates a much harder piece to get.
 
Dowzer said:
If Invincible actually knew what happened with that account mixup. Why does someone hack 65mil and then give it back?

...He might realize that Fubs > You. Calling him a gilbuyer is absolutly ludacris if you know the guy, he can't support the $2000+ it would take to buy all the items he owns.


Oh, and you forgot about the Speed Belt, Kraken club, among many other sought items.

Served. A la GTFO.
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I remember this gimp couldn't afford to uncurse N. body and had to borrow a mil. Then he quits the LS, and less than a month later is spamming high level CC items, buying K. club, speed belt, and all sorts of other shit.

Got a big laugh out of the LS to see that going on. He always complained about how poor he was, but somehow was always buying high end gear even while in the LS.

He is one of the biggest emo players on the server. He lent Blinxx over 20m in gear and came crying on LS about how he couldn't stand this game, he begged and begged for his gear back. He was always saying he was going to quit if he couldn't get this or that.

This kid is a joke, rags to riches my ass.
 
Why the hell are you cussing Rawr and saying WE are saying something, off the what 2-3 people who have posted in this thread. I didn't even read this until after we finished in sky yesterday.

As far as buying stones, it is vastly different from buying from the AH. If someone is using a legit business to fund illegal activities. Not knowing and patronizing that business is not wrong, but knowing where your money is going and patronizing the business is totally different.

RMT ruin the game for a lot of people, and buying stones is no different from buying gil, it's all supporting the same people, it's all dirty.
 
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