Stop buying Ulli stones, you *#%*tards

[Skaw]

The difference is, you're insulting people who have valid points to make. And what they're saying doesn't have anything to do with how far they have or haven't progressed in this game.

And they wouldn't be posting here, but there'd still be virtually the same arguement. Just minus a few players.

The key thing here is that people are irritated that they aren't progressing because of the gilsellers camping. Remove the fact that they're gilsellers, and just regular player selling stones for their own gil pools - the same arguement would be going on.

I mean hey, if Celvantes wasn't irritated by the fact that his shell can't get Autumnstones, would this thread exist?

It was mentioned specifically that the person (or people) didn't have a typical GS name. So what is that person's name?

And what if the name was constructed in a way that it didn't seem like a dick was mashed on a keyboard with a cobbler's hammer? If it wasn't already known that he was a gilseller, would you honestly avoid Large's bazaar? His name is normal enough, and the fact that the character is a Galka just makes it even more normal of a name.

And on the other side of the fence, theres plenty of players mules who are just named with jumbled letters - why? They aren't playing them, who gives a shit what the name is.

 

[Zion]

Are you going to bother actually responding to wht you quoted, or just shove your head further up your ass? There never was any question of would you rather buy from a real player or a RMT; plus there hasn't been any mention of the mules they bought the stones from, so saying it's just random letters is sheer ignorance and judging based on that is stupidity.

You just stated that there is some LS that sell these stone. May you name one them? Seriously. You can't! Why cuz no one is stupid enough to sell that stone. Why? Cuz seriously you lose profit from them. Not to mention that you can pop kirin and also sell the osode. Not to mention the drops from stone too. You gain too much instead selling that item.

 

[Bajaratt]

I've known some people in Kaizen a long time, so I really didn't know if I wanted to say anything.

But I think if Almuat had just come out and said that Kaizen does a lot of things other then sky, and it's greatly more time efficient for them to buy the stones, and get their members their gear without wasting time they could be using for other stuff, and left it at that, it would not have been as bad.

I think it was the well we don't know for sure it's coming from RMT, knowing it's a vastly higher chance that it is then it isn't, just like Kote or Fuma, etc that set a lot of the people off.

I don't think it would have been more accepted if he just said "we're busy, we buy them to save time." People already said that in the first few pages of this thread and were flamed for it. Claiming that the source of the stone wasn't always clear didn't help much, but enough people had already made up their mind so it wouldn't matter what he said.

 

[Master Honcho]

Did you see me say we buy them from RMT? I already made a post for retards like you who don't read well. Go read it on page 38, it has white space and punctuation for you retards. It's even organised in a list

So your telling me kaizen doesnt buy from RMT? I'm not going back to read your posts. I don't listen to ignorant fools who like to call me names^^

 

[Crosis]

You just stated that there is some LS that sell these stone. May you name one them? Seriously. You can't! Why cuz no one is stupid enough to sell that stone. Why? Cuz seriously you lose profit from them. Not to mention that you can pop kirin and also sell the osode. Not to mention the drops from stone too. You gain too much instead selling that item.

Are you slow or just stupid? NOT EVERY LS DOES SKY. So they sell them and make money by doing that. Jesus to the christ.

So your telling me kaizen doesnt buy from RMT? I'm not going back to read your posts. I don't listen to ignorant fools who like to call me names^^

We never said we did, now I'm telling you to go read our posts. And I didn't insult you.

 

[Zalbag]

Excuse you, but some of the people responding here have "progressed" plenty. I've been in sky. I have almost all the gear I want. Do not lump people who have a problem with people taking cheap shortcuts in with people who are unaccomplished. That's a pretty ignorant thing to say.

I just got slapped in the face by a friend...

 

[Sneakypants]

What's the difference? What if stones were AH-able? Would that make it okay if 99% of the names in the AH history were gilseller names? Why isn't this an issue with items like o.kote, bomb core, and the multitude of other items that gilsellers monopolize? Because it's Ulli, and more people want it. That's the only reason.

All those things are on AH.
IF the stone could be put on the AH, I wouldn't have to ask. I could look it up myself. However, it was mentioned that it was bought from a bazaar. I am asking for the name, since it should be not be easily confused with any number of GS "Slkgrgszji" names....

Again, this is not tough. Don't try to complicate it.


It has one right answer. Or several, if they were bought from different people.

 

[Dowzer]

As this was none of anyones business in the first place, players are still bound by their opinion that buying stones is effecient instead of camping Ulli. Good for you guys and wanting to advance faster than others.

However, when it comes to us judging where you get the stones from...I don't think there is enough solid evidence to say you fully support RMT@Ulli. It should be common sense that no one wants to solely support RMT by accident or with all accordance.

What a lot of people are missing here is the fact that Kaizen is making an effort to avoid RMT sales. By venturing JP linkshells such as Lucifars and others, it's quite apparent they've been purchasing through legit players.

The same thing can be said about Ochiudo's kote. Though a majority come from Vubreant&Whehe(purchasing from RMT@Ulli) a small minority come from MNKs retiring theirs for Bandomusha Kote (purchasing from Lucifars LS)


A lot of you are going as far as branding them hypocritical for skipping steps in sky, such as not deserving to fight Byakko without taking down Ulli first. However, if you hold that type of arguement you are hypocritical yourself. I think Fleist explained this through Hakutaku farming.

Hell, I'm a hypocrit in my own beliefs. Not wanting to hunt all the Haku eyes for my own hat. Yet I would never buy an item such as Peacock Charm or a Thief's knife. Maybe people need to realize that this game is ever-changing and as a result, so are our beliefs upon legitimate gameplay.

Everyone has their own loopholes involving their own accomplishments. Optical hat has got to be #1 on that list. (Watching RMT kill Million's Eyes deep in the Den of Rancor last night was enough proof for me)


Have fun argueing.

 

[Bajaratt]

You just stated that there is some LS that sell these stone. May you name one them? Seriously. You can't! Why cuz no one is stupid enough to sell that stone. Why? Cuz seriously you lose profit from them. Not to mention that you can pop kirin and also sell the osode. Not to mention the drops from stone too. You gain too much instead selling that item.

What the hell are you on? I never said anything about there being a linkshell that sells the stones, where the hell are you getting this?

I got a stone in Notorious Hunters, as did my friend who sold his, and I got a stone around when I joined rawr. I could have easily sold both stones(I could have used the money), but decided to donate them to the LS.

 

[Raesvelg]

Are you slow or just stupid? NOT EVERY LS DOES SKY. So they sell them and make money by doing that. Jesus to the christ.

Yes, not every shell does sky.

Very few people xp at Ulli, and if you're not there to do that, why the fuck are you in sky? To claim/kill/sell the stone? Haven't we just been discussing about how it's a grotesque waste of time to camp Ulli, and how that time could be better spent doing other thing to make gil?

 

[Sneakypants]

And what if the name was constructed in a way that it didn't seem like a dick was mashed on a keyboard with a cobbler's hammer? If it wasn't already known that he was a gilseller, would you honestly avoid Large's bazaar? His name is normal enough, and the fact that the character is a Galka just makes it even more normal of a name.

lol

If you have the answer, please provide it.
If not, don't try to get fancy.
Just shut your fucking mouth.

 

[Sirelrohir]

You read what you want to read Sire and make up shit in between. I don't see any majority believing we buy from RMT. I see you and Firestreak, some people from other LS's who bot, flee hack or MPK others and thats about it.

You read what you want to read Sire and make up shit in between. I don't see any majority believing we buy from RMT. I see you and Firestreak, some people from other LS's who bot, flee hack or MPK others and thats about it.

Actually, its people from alot of different ls; i see people from rise, perserverance, anteres, rawr and reconquista (its the bestest!!!) arguing one side, and kaizen and purpose arguing the other.

And artem, i agree with you; there are probably many ls' that buy from rmt.
You have people like jamal and crosis, who have lambasted me for 'hacking', citing no proof, other then hearsay which was refuted by the person that started the rumor. yet when it comes to whether or not their ls or affiliates cheat, its ok, and they attempt to come up with all sorts of excuses.

 

[Dragon Ryder]

You just stated that there is some LS that sell these stone. May you name one them? Seriously. You can't! Why cuz no one is stupid enough to sell that stone. Why? Cuz seriously you lose profit from them. Not to mention that you can pop kirin and also sell the osode. Not to mention the drops from stone too. You gain too much instead selling that item.

also why rmt also use the stone to kill byakko so therefore making more gil to sell.

if rmt are retarded enough to sell the stone for cheap then buy it up i say. unless you plan to not buy the drops from their byakko, which i doubt you'll ignore, then the cycle repeats. You're saying it's ok to buy the drops from rmt byakkos but not ok to buy stones....but if you're still saying it's not ok to buy the drops, how can you control the market? you really can't unless you can stop yourself from buying up all the RMT kotes and strider boots. Seriously, Open your mind and look at the facts

 

[Zyndara]

I just got slapped in the face by a friend...

Zal that wasn't a shot at you. Don't take what I'm saying out of context. I was in sky with you for a long time and I know the time you've put in, you don't have to tell me. I know you deserve a lot of good things in this game, I've never thought otherwise, and I cheered you on and was very excited when you told us you were headed to Kaizen. Don't make it a personal attack because I disagree with buying Autumnstones.

If you have more you want to say to me on this, I'd rather not take an issue with a friend onto a flameboard, so please pm me or something... I'd be happy to chat with you about it.

 

[Skaw]

Just shut your fucking mouth.

GG, Sneaky. I'm going to go make a mule when servers are up, his names going to be bbbhashhd, just to prove my point further.

By your logic, that'll obviously mean I'm RMT. Sweet.

If you want to make a point, don't make a fucking retarded one.

 

[Crosis]

Yes, not every shell does sky.

Very few people xp at Ulli, and if you're not there to do that, why the fuck are you in sky? To claim/kill/sell the stone? Haven't we just been discussing about how it's a grotesque waste of time to camp Ulli, and how that time could be better spent doing other thing to make gil?

Its a grotesque waste of time to camp ANY nm. But there will always be someone to do it. And not sure about what you think, but there aren't many NMs that drop a 5m+ item that can be killed with 3 people.

 

[Rappa]

I dunno about you, but I've bought a shitton of things from a shitton of bazaars. I don't write down who I bought it from because I don't find that info important. It's like when I buy a Big Mac from McD's and throw away the receipt. I got my burger and I don't need to track the time and store location where I got it from because I don't care. Are you saying that from now on, anyone who doesn't want to be called an RMT supporter needs to write down bazaar names they shop from and post here or something to make sure they are "okay"? That's retarded.

 

[Sneakypants]

GG, Sneaky. I'm going to go make a mule when servers are up, his names going to be bbbhashhd, just to prove my point further.

That'll obviously mean I'm RMT. Sweet.

Obviously, we can all toss out far fetched shit till the cows come home...That's pointless.

I have a question, and a simple one, as a follow up to the admission that the name didn't look like it was typed with a cock.

You either know the answer or you don't.


I'm sick of anything and anyone else thinking they can dance around the simplest shit. Hence, answer, or shut up.

 

[Sneakypants]

I dunno about you, but I've bought a shitton of things from a shitton of bazaars. I don't write down who I bought it from because I don't find that info important. It's like when I buy a Big Mac from McD's and throw away the receipt. I got my burger and I don't need to track the time and store location where I got it from because I don't care. Are you saying that from now on, anyone who doesn't want to be called an RMT supporter needs to write down bazaar names they shop from and post here or something to make sure they are "okay"? That's retarded.

So you don't know the name?

ZzzzZzz

 

[Skaw]

I'm sick of anything and anyone else thinking they can dance around the simplest shit. Hence, answer, or shut up.

And what are you going to do with the name? Investigate it? You know you can make PlayOnline profiles hidden, making the ability to discover who the mules belong to pretty futile. Now please, quit being an idiot. Bazaar names are pointless because of that POL feature, unless the bazaaring character is the main gilseller character.