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I just need some info about the Summoner job. Im thinking I wanna be a summoner but im told they are best as a support job. Well I was wondering...whats the best combo for Summoner? WHM/SMN? RDM/SMN? BLM/SMN? Any comments? Please?
 
Seriously I could use just a little bit of help here Please...I just wanna know what the good combo for SMN is and if RDM/SMN works well or not.
 
If I could get off the damn boards long enough to play...

I'm currently lvling whm (finally) and smn to have both options for pt's. Yeah..mp bonus..enhancing bonus..yay. Smn is a good mage job..n it's FUN..
 
Only common combos for smn is whm/smn and smn/whm. Rdm/smn works kind of, but is outperformed by rdm/blm and rdm/whm in most scenarious. Also, don't expect to use your avatars when subbing smn (or even much with smn main 8) ).
 
Rones said:
(or even much with smn main 8) ).
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Don't listen to Rones :P... a good smn knows when to pull out the goods and when to stand short. SMN/WHM is good, SMN/RDM has benefits but not that many that WHM sub can't give better, and SMN/BLM is kinda sparsely used. I've done SMN/BLM in an sll smn party, mainly for Escape support in an emergency. SMN/RDM migth be better for solo dealies for the fast recast.
 
Well our discussion of that did reach 11+ pages last I checked and I don't believe we ever came to an agreed conclusion. :roll: Oh and please avoid smn/rdm in parties (solo, do whatever you want). Fast cast is a complete waste, you miss out on divine seal, and you miss all the status fixer spells.
 
Well I saw my posts as pretty conclusive with all the reason I gave, but some of the smns didn't seem to like that conclusion. *shrug*
 
Summoners are alot of work to even have the potential to be good, IE all the summons. They suffer from being out performed by other jobs, IE bards can whipe the floor with SMNs and WHM can out heal with an arm tied behind their back. Unless you have absolute craploads of gil to afford to solo them or you have a couple 70+ friends you will probaly only be able to get 2-3 of the summons and not a hope at Fenrir. I realy would not recomend doing it as soon as you hit 30.
 
I always wanted to be a SMN/RDM... I think it would be fun and maybe show people that I'm not a main healer >>

I've played SMN/BLM in Qufim before. It was by accident mind you (I didn't know I didn't change my sub!), but the party was REALLY good. We were getting exp chains up to 5, and since there was a WHM in party I was just the nuker, playing gimp blm maybe? Worked well, with my Avatars being able to MB and then be nuking in between. Don't know if I'd ever do it again, but it was a lot better then people made it out to be.

But as for now I play SMN/WHM... because right now that's all that is seen as "usefull" *Eye roll here*
 
really the only workable combo in party scenarios is SMN/WHM. About 70 percent of the time (in my experiences, im only a lvl 30 SMN though) you will be invited to a party to be a healer. This of course is pretty dull and not quite what you signed on for, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. I do heavily suggest getting the avatars through the solo battles at 20 though. Because you may luck out and be invited to a party to do what your name suggests.......SUMMON! :D

If you need help on defeating the avatars, go to Summoner.info Its a pretty solid website with a stratedgy that works a good amount of the time.
 
Ya, smn is a fun job as you can cast summons. We(smn) can be main healer provided there isa ninja tank hence less work so you can heal and smn at the same time. If no ninja but a paladin tank there are 2 options;
1. Dun even enter the PT cause you dun want to be main healer.
2. Enter the party and be main healer

I dun care which setup i belong to, whenever i am invited to be main healer or to smn i do my job well. If some ppl think smn cannot or don't want to be main healer or even heal for crist sake, then i suggest you replace that whm subbed of yours permamently to be blm hence you dun need to even heal at all. Now you can summon till your hearts contempt(sp?) and not worrying about ppl saying "heal damnit" ot silena or paralyna or whatever spells that whm can use. Now am i right?
 
Summon seems like a very entertaining job later on. I will never try it UNTIL i have fenrir, a vow to myself I made, but they bring a lot to the table. Blink-ga, Stoneskin-ga are great for Pld tanks. Each Avatar can do decent damage about once per minute and chain with others. Double Slap >> Sidewinder is pretty impressive I hear. Give it a shot, but plan to do a lot of healing both pre-20 and post-20.
 
Faedryth said:
Blink-ga, Stoneskin-ga are great for Pld tanks.
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Actually those are a pretty big waste on a Paladin. They're more for the pt members that don't get hit, or are 1st voke in an SATA setup.
 
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