Sword Strap+Scythe

Meximan said:
I found this kinda intresting when lookin up info on sword strap http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=4516

Basicly if your useing a NQ scythe dont use sword strap cause your messin up your tp gain from a 7hit to a 8hit.

Also dont use this as sam at all.
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well depending on your store tp you may or may not mess up your tp build but pole strap is pretty much always better anyways
 
was testin just a lil for an hr last night, Death+1 and sword strap /sam was still getting a 6hit set up with +6stp(rajas+ brutal) w/Carbonara and w/o food but only after WS.

I'll have to reconfirm that w/o food part since it was really late lastnight when I was tring it.
 
Phraust said:
I'd suggest not using it at all. The other options offer more gain over all.
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Yeah i know theres other options but I was just posting this for ppl leveling drk up and comming lv55+, if your useing a 528delay weapon just dont use it cause your messin up your tp gain.

And i was just seein if I could still hit a 6 hit set up even with it on not messin up my set up. Besides I think I have like 4-5 different grips all are situational.
 
can anyone give a detailed comparison of the straps(ones that are melee oriented) and how good they are?

i know mythril +1 is the bread and butter but i've wondered about the others
 
lets see which melee straps to look at.
Pole Strap 2% double attack
Sword Strap -3% delay
Mythril Grip+1 STR+2 VIT+2 Accuracy+2
Platinum Grip+1 Accuracy+3 Additional effect: "Stun"

Pole is pretty much the best general purpose, works with both melee and ws damage, helps you ws more often.

Sword Strap -3% delay will help your DPS but not your ws and it shouldn't help you ws more often since its lowering the tp you get per hit(if you have a bad tp set up and consistantly end up with like 105 tp or something it would end up getting you over 100 3% faster). might be good for drks using souleater last resort zerg?

Mythril grip+1 nice for 5 lvls then get a pole strap, 2% double attack will help you land more hits than 2 acc ever will this means pole strap will let you ws more often with more hits landing on the ws. 2 STR is nice but will do very little outside of ws.

Platinum grip +1 sometimes random stuns can be handy.
 
would the crit+3% be out of the window then?
 
K. Ishitar said:
would the crit+3% be out of the window then?
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Mostly useless.

I have a Pole Grip, and had a Sword Strap. I use Pole Grip 100% now and sold the Sword Strap a long time ago.
 
I use the Sword Strap occasionally, pole much more so...Mithril+1 just if I want the best chance at a big SC.
 
The only time that i see this grip as useful would be if you have a BZ and are going for a zerg setup but even then i would like to parse it against the HP one.
 
I own the Pole, Sword, Claymore, and Mithril+1 grips. I use them pretty much exactly like Jamal, Pole 95% of the time with the other three filling in specialist roles, depending on precisely what I'm attempting to do.
 
Guy On Alla said:
Something to consider:
Even though the NQ Death Scythe will do 15 weaponskills in the time it takes the Death+1 to do 14, here is something to look at. If you take each weapon's total time to reach 100TP (NQ death = 61.60, and Death+1 = 66.32) and multiply them by the respective number of weaponskills at lap, (14 for Death+1, and 15 for NQ death), it will give you the total number of seconds it takes each to reach the 14th and 15th weaponskill. Then divide each of those numbers by their respective swing times (NQ Death = 8.8, and Death+1 = 8.29) and you will find the total number of swings to get there. It looks like this,

14 x 66.32 = 928.48 928.48 / 8.29 = 112 total swings

15 x 61.60 = 924 924 / 8.8 = 105 total swings


now find the difference between 112 swings of the death+1 and the 105 swings of the NQ death scythe to find out how many more swings the death+1 gets in comparison to the NQ death scythe.

112 - 105 = 7 swings.

Conclusion: NQ Death Scythe (or any 528 delay scythe for that matter) gets 1 bonus weaponskill in comparison to the Death+1 (or any 513 delay weapon) But the Death+1 scores 7 additional hits...

So would 7 hits from the Death+1 total up to, or beat 1 NQ Death Scythe weaponskill at 100TP? You be the judge!
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You see this is what caught my eye and under the assumtion that he prolly has brutal earring so has D.attack already.
 
Jakey said:
usefull for breaking weapons or heads I guess for like hydra or trying to get blu abilities?
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wasn't sure so i just threw it out there, thanks for the response as well
 
I use Pole 100% of the time. My TP gain is consistant. I actually wonder why some folks buy the Mythril+1 anymore.
 
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