Tank vs. Tank

Trippyhippy

Trippyhippy

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I had a party in krt last night fighting bats as a ninja. Standard party setup, nin, sam, rng, rdm, whm, blm.

I'm pretty sure this is the first time since I got utsusemi: Ni that I have tanked anything besides Beetles or Crabs. Let me tell ya, as a ninja, bats suck. I actually even died once.

Then we went to Kuftal and rained death upon the crabs who almost never do any damage to me except with Bubble Shower.

My point is, I think Plds are probably more effective than a ninja when tanking bats. So my question to all you tanks out there, what kinds of creatures do you like to stay away from? What don't you like to tank, and why? What do you like to tank, and why?
 
Trippyhippy said:
My point is, I think Plds are probably more effective than a ninja when tanking bats. So my question to all you tanks out there, what kinds of creatures do you like to stay away from? What don't you like to tank, and why? What do you like to tank, and why?
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Fighting mobs weak to piercing with a NIN, as RNG. Way too easy to pull hate, always having to hold back with Sidewinder and Barrage.

With PLD:

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I really like exping on birds. PTs are always fast with them it seems, granted you use a proper setup. Our samurai was spamming Penta Thrust before that and our THF has been consistant with DE.

We had a ninja tank earlier, who actually did alright. Died once, but I think he was just tired. Though fighting Colibri as ninja doesn't look very easy.
 
I don't mind bats so much as NIN. ATK down does suck though. Beetles are a NINs best mob though, spiders also if your WHM has erase, if they don't stay away from them.

Maybe it was your Taru HP that made it harder for you to handle it. No offence to Tarus out there buy I hate to party with you as NIN. They can't hold hate on a well equipped DD, and when they get hit they get hit hard. Plus I triied NIN on my buddies toon as a taru, and it was like I had to learn the job all over again. Blade ten is cool though because Tarus do a back flip.
 
I owned as NIN as anything, hate wasn't a problem no matter what jobs were there, although RNG was the job that gave the most look aways.

I liked tanking the stuff NINs never liked cause I had a great WHM those levels, and would get flashes when I needed them. I tried training otehr WHMs, but just went back to crabs when I wasn't with my normal WHM.

Solo'd a VT raptor in valley of sorrows at lvl 61 which was real fun, was going for chain 1 when another raptor snuck up on me, so I mijin gakure.
 
As PLD I don't seem to have troubles with much, mainly anything with an extremely fast attack rate because it interrupts cures, but theres not many of those kinds of mobs really. Then again I'm only 50.... I have yet to see it all =\
 
PLD is better on most in-the-dark mobs.

IE: undead, bats
 
Lol, trip, you omitted those times when you hit orange-red HP against the crabs... nudge wink nudge
 
Meh.. I hate Wyverns... Fang rush always goes off when you have one shadow left.. and then they double attack and both of them are crits.. there is no time to get shadows up or cure you... its like instant death.. But I kind of find them fun :)...

to Dowzer... no.. Colibiri's arent that bad on ninja.. remember.. i tanked them for you as your war when u still had dowzer.. and you were spamming rampage because of your damned club.

Bat's are fun to tank, I think I did the best against those and raptors when leveling ninja up.

Also.. I hate the paralyze-ga tp moves.. because those always para you like 3-4 times in a row D:
 
Great birds suck, like the ones in lufaise. Can't really think of anything else. Whats hard about tanking bats or undead? Sure they are tougher than crabs, but crabs are a joke...
 
Those Puks at 60-62 were a bitch to tank as ninja. They attack way too fuckin' fast and live way to fuckin' long when you're mostly partying with gimpshit melee.
 
I've NIN tanked the KRT bats before.
A good support team makes all the difference.

When I was there we had 2 RDM (yeah...I know). Neither was doing a fantastic job. I always needed/had to ask for haste.
Evasion down? No Erase? NP, let's grab a Scorpion for Earth Pounder + Death Scissors time! No haste for j00!!

Neophytal knows what I'm talking about. lol
 
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*sighs* there's nothing like rdms casting blind spell on a bat and are like... 'WTH, it won't stick?!?'
 
What's hard about bats? They don't hit that fast, especially if you're landing hojo. Their TP moves aren't even close to bad, they don't hit especially hard.

Yeah I'll agree greater birds suck, damage penalty and some nasty TP moves, along with hitting hard as hell. Skeletons are somewhat annoying, they have aoe shadow rape, mnk/war tanks them better than nin ever could anyway.
 
Shaunessy said:
Maybe it was your Taru HP that made it harder for you to handle it. No offence to Tarus out there buy I hate to party with you as NIN. They can't hold hate on a well equipped DD, and when they get hit they get hit hard. Plus I triied NIN on my buddies toon as a taru, and it was like I had to learn the job all over again. Blade ten is cool though because Tarus do a back flip.
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Lets see here.... yes they may do less damage with each shot...but not by much, and with higher int, ele wheel does more dmg as taru.
Also, high agi helps tank as a taru nin.
Its hard for most nins to keep hate on a well equipped DD, but on my taru nin, I did just fine using ele wheel and enfeebs to keep hate.
and umm...all nins get hit hard when they do get hit. Nins are lightly armored....not a lot of def on their armor no matter what race you are.
I love taru nins, and not just because im a taru, but because the higher agi and int does wonders.
 
chrishj19 said:
Lets see here.... yes they may do less damage with each shot...but not by much, and with higher int, ele wheel does more dmg as taru.
Also, high agi helps tank as a taru nin.
Its hard for most nins to keep hate on a well equipped DD, but on my taru nin, I did just fine using ele wheel and enfeebs to keep hate.
and umm...all nins get hit hard when they do get hit. Nins are lightly armored....not a lot of def on their armor no matter what race you are.
I love taru nins, and not just because im a taru, but because the higher agi and int does wonders.
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The old Mattimer...

Nuff said.
 
On pld: Nothing really, Rams are kind of bitches but if I'm erased quick enough it's np. Nothing hits me too rediculously hard anymore, the only thing is I'll sub nin on the harder HNMs.

On nin: Monk mobs. Hate them with a passion. Also anything with multi-hit TP moves are bitches. Anything that rapes shadows basically. Also IT++ mobs are annoying, damage is severely gimped as is evasion (talking exp levels, not merit levels)

Colibri are a fucking pain. Either use 10 foods in 20 minutes, or don't use food and do gimped damage. Get attacked fast as hell. No thanks. It was easy to keep shadows up, not so easy to keep hate. Had to really think when doing those. D=
 
to make it better you could eat food that decreases your stats horribly and the colibri snatch morsel and take the effects and make it easier
 
I co-tanked for my last 20 levels, and I think the mob I loved the most was manticores in Teriggan. Without haste you had enough time to cast Ichi between their swings.

Never got to experience the new zones though.
 
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