tanking as a war/mnk

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micah2424

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hello all i was just needing to ask can war/mnk tank all the way to 75
as an elvann female

because it seem's that the following macro grab's hate and hold's hate

/ja Provoke <t>
/wait 15
/ja Boost <me>
/wait 15
/ja Boost <me>


now reapeating that could keep hate on me as a war/mnk if i am not mistakin

please let me know thought's on this ok thank's
 
Sure, it can be done, but you will rarely be asked to tank post-30, and probably never post-40. Post-50, you'll be LFP for days on end.

Basically, if you want to tank to 75, why not choose PLD or NIN?

Anyway, if you really really want to do WAR/MNK tank to 75, you will need five very open-minded people to join in a static with you. The XP will really start to suffer around 40, but almost anything is do-able in a static.
 
well my question is why not???

i mean is that not what a white mage is there for to heal and to skill up on heal skill's???

and besides i really do not see the difference defense wise or vit wise

especially with the counter rings

and if u want my opinion pld is ok but when u see a pld in gc tanking and taking damm near 60-80 damage and i take about the same damage with the same gear

personally i think war/mnk is kinda better with a pld there is kinda dowtime too
 
Here is the issue, you have shit defence and will suck up assloads of te WHMs MP. No MP = No skillchain = shit EXP. War/nins suck up way to mcuh TP as is.
 
Mainly, because of the damage you will take, meaning the WHM will use more mp, ect.. With PLD or NIN.. Alot less dmg taken, PLD can heal themselves which helps with hate, and NIN will take little to no damage between casting of Uts:NI or Ichi.
 
ok if i am sucking up the whm's mp then not being stupid or anything but why the hell would the whm be there for then???

i do not get it yes u take damage but i still see no difference defense wise
 
Uteseumi blocks alot of the hits, PLDs have Defence boosters and go for vit gear. I gaurantee you the WHM will be running out of MP in fights, you will not be seeing anything higher then chain 2.... maybe.

There is a difrence between using MP and abusing MP.
 
micah2424 said:
ok if i am sucking up the whm's mp then not being stupid or anything but why the hell would the whm be there for then???

i do not get it yes u take damage but i still see no difference defense wise
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Haste, status cures, tele's, raises and still cures. A Nin or Pld tank still needs to be cured, just not AS much, which means the Whm's mp lasts longer which in turn causes less downtime and better xp chains.
 
Aslo what lvl PTs are these, I will be honest you do not see a real difrence between melle until post 30.
 
maybe so but i still thing that war/mnk with the counter earing's is pretty dang possible to level 75

i mean u get dodge defender and provoke

and as i stated earlier with the following macro

/ja provoke <t>
/wait 15
/ja boost <me>
/wait 15
/ja boost <me>

and the way i understand it that is not a bad hate holding tool
 
micah2424 said:
maybe so but i still thing that war/mnk with the counter earing's is pretty dang possible to level 75

i mean u get dodge defender and provoke

and as i stated earlier with the following macro

/ja provoke <t>
/wait 15
/ja boost <me>
/wait 15
/ja boost <me>

and the way i understand it that is not a bad hate holding tool
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I love people that come to ask a question when they already "know" the answer. :roll:
 
Veteran said:
Sure, it can be done, but you will rarely be asked to tank post-30, and probably never post-40. Post-50, you'll be LFP for days on end..
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as a war post 50, i can say you will still be asked to tank well into the late 50's, early 60's

i still remember getting a tell from some scrub

"what do u mean do i have a tank, ur a war... ur the tank"

gotta love the 'u's' and 'urs'
 
Stop being a lazy bitch and level a REAL fucking tank job....sick of all the warriors and monks nowadays who don't even like their job, they just want to play catch up and get to 75 asap.

Before all the Monks and Warriors come in here with hurt pussies I will say this...I love war/nin, absolutely love it, monks are nice as well but it is not a coincedence the trend of all the gimped fucking warriors and monks nowadays, it's because they want 75 asap PERIOD. End of discussion. They dont like mage jobs so they go the War or Monk route.

I'm not trying to say advanced jobs are 1337 and the stock jobs suck, but you Monks and Warriors know when you hit level 30 with your party and 80% of them are excited to go unlock their future choice and START ALL OVER AGAIN? Yea, well why they are doing that how about go farm for some god damn better gear and stop looking like a 2 stock starter job combo with trash gear you lazy pricks.

And yes i know it takes only a week or so to take a job from 1 to 30 and it's not that big of a deal. But that's a week all you stock motherfuckers should be farming. God knows Warrior and Monks are nothing but LFG most of their careers anyhow so what's your excuse?

End Rant, and I think the old Vang is back! :wink:
 
ohh my god thank you so much for seeing my point and saying it can be done at least somebody still has hope for this war/mnk


yay

dude u inspire me so much
 
ok no offense but please do not swear man there is no need for that language
 
Here is the issue, there are NO redeeming values of having a War as tank, and adding /MNK to boot?!!!
 
I took WAR/MNK all the way to 52 before I quit. Lets just say that you have to have top-of-the-line equipment otherwise you'll get hit for 80-100 on normal hits.
 
it is like i said i did a check on my defense and right now it is over 200 and that is without food or protect or using defender

no offense but uhh what is your defense???
 
At level 35, the differences start to show, but they are not readily apparent.

First, let's compare PLD/WAR and WAR/MNK at your level, 35.

PLD/WAR will have more defense and VIT. PLD/WAR will thus take less damage. Score 1 for PLD/WAR.

PLD/WAR will do less damage, but has Sentinel, Shield Bash, and Cures, not to mention Cover. PLD/WAR will thus keep hate better. Score 1 for PLD/WAR.

Now, let's compare NIN/WAR and WAR/MNK at your level, 35.

NIN/WAR will be dual-tanking at this level, and a pair of NIN/WARs will be taking little to no damage. NIN/WAR will thus take less damage. Score 1 for NIN/WAR.

NIN/WAR will likely outdamage you unless you're using a great axe. If you are, that further widens the damage taken gap because you can no longer shield block. To give you the benefit of the doubt, I'll say that you're using a great axe. So the NIN/WAR is dealing slightly less damage than you, but when you get hit, you lose hate. The NIN/WAR won't be getting hit, so he will naturally keep his hate up. Score 1 for NIN/WAR.

I'm not saying you can't do it; I'm saying that there are two other types of tanks that are way better in every single situation.
 
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