tanking as a war/mnk

Jesus man, it's a game . . . and it's a bloody xp session in Quifim you're whining about.

If you get that emotional over a bad player carrying on cancel your content id and seek help.
 
:lol: You tell them to Grow Up and then procede to apoligize for jumping off at the handle and cursing someone out when you don't even know if it the right person. Classic. :lol: Pot meet Kettle

That is all. Please remember this is General Disscusion if you would like to flame someone go to the correct forum.
 
Dirgesong said:
Jesus man, it's a game . . . and it's a bloody xp session in Quifim you're whining about.

If you get that emotional over a bad player carrying on cancel your content id and seek help.
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It's the first time i've ever had a complaint about a bad player, that's how bad the person is. Please, don't say anything, I think you've complained a lot more before.
 
all i am saying is that i do not like swearing

i forgive u for swearing but i promise u

u swear at me again and i will have something done about it

swearing is a form of disrespect

and i have done nothing to disrespect you
 
Bringing this back on subject . . .

I wish I had good news for you, I really do. But if you plan on tanking exclusively, you're best with a job geared entirely for tanking.

WAR/MNK may be called on to tank at higher levels, it's true- tank jobs can be hard to find, and sometimes it's the only choice you have. A good WAR/MNK playing with pickup parties will have a full set of gear for both Tank and DD capabilities, because you can be used in either capacity. But as main tank, the party will gain XP at a drastically lower rate than with you as DD.

The damage you do as a WAR/MNK simply will not offset the other factors that slow down the group. Mages will pour a lot more MP into healing you, which means that chains will be shorter. Enhancing spells like Haste, which makes the DD's more effective, may be pushed to the wayside in the effort to keep you alive. I know- I've seen it happen.

So in short, if you love to tank, PLD is a better suited job for you. WAR/MNK is still a viable combo, but keep in mind you'll be sitting under your (!) long after all the other tanks and DD's have been snatched up.
 
micah2424 said:
all i am saying is that i do not like swearing

i forgive u for swearing but i promise u

u swear at me again and i will have something done about it

swearing is a form of disrespect

and i have done nothing to disrespect you
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thank you

although i should also tell you, you cant get banned for swearing, unless its racism or bigotry.
 
swearing in certain way's is considered racism

but who cares

all i ask is show a little respect there is no need to swear though
 
swearing in certain way's is considered racism

but who cares

all i ask is show a little respect there is no need to swear though
 
If you want to swear, hit the flameboard people! :D
 
Xerius said:
It's the first time i've ever had a complaint about a bad player, that's how bad the person is. Please, don't say anything, I think you've complained a lot more before.
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Actually I don't recall ever starting a thread on the flame board.
And I don't think I've ever went after the way someone plays, but what they said. ~~~ Back on track . . .

Anyways, who cares how bad the player is, if the game stops being fun, WALK AWAY. You've now had to get two threads going on how unhappy you are. Keep your bile to the flame board man, this is about how War/Mnk isn't a good tank end game, not about your silly xp session.
 
Micah2424, whoever you are, you're more likely to be banned than Xerius


See we have this rule.

You MUST have your characters name in your signature.

And as for banning ANYBODY? Hahahaha. We've banned 2 people from QCDN. 2. Xerius isn't going to be banned, just for swearing at you.
 
Kipsy said:
Micah2424, whoever you are, you're more likely to be banned than Xerius


See we have this rule.

You MUST have your characters name in your signature.

And as for banning ANYBODY? Hahahaha. We've banned 2 people from QCDN. 2. Xerius isn't going to be banned, just for swearing at you.
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Thanks Kipsy :p

Anyways, back on topic.

WAR/MNK is a viable tank, but it doesnt offer any positive benefits as other people have said 1000 times.

PLD hate tools are: Cures (lotsa hate), Flash, Provoke, Sentinel, Shieldbash, Holy Circle (rumors arent 100% sure about whether this has hate tied to it), Rampage, Berserk (on and off extra bit of hate), and Warcry.

WAR/MNK: Counter, Dodge, Boost, Provoke, Aggressor, Warcry, Berserk and not too sure what else.

Yes PLD uses up MP, and it takes time to replenish, but a WAR while not having MP, will require someone else to do 2x the work, namely the WHM, which means even more MP to heal up. Think about it, 2 tanks of MP with Refresh, is more efficient to fill up than 1 BIG tank of MP with only 1 Refresh.

:)
 
Pretty much every single ability in the entire game has hate attached to it, besides Cure V. If it does indeed have hate, however, it is incredibly small. Even Defender has hate.:lol:
 
Just popping and adding my two cents 8)

I have lvled PLD to 50 and i'm lvling WAR/MNK right now in a static (lvl 35 atm). In my opinion it's situational. The type of tank you should choose must be based on the mob you are fighting :
- Heavy and slow hits = NIN/WAR, WAR/NIN, PLD.
- Quick hits = WAR/MNK, PLD.

Against quick hitting, low damage mobs, i really think that WAR/MNK can shine (with counter) against blink tanks who needs heavy enfeeblings to do their job properly. NIN/WAR totally owns slow hitting mobs. PLD can handle any type of mob easily (those who really hit hard can be a pain however).

For the rest, i really think that everything is balanced. I just want to add that PLD tanks are not the best in every cases, but they surely are the safest type of tanks when the party is not top notch.

P.S : against "silence" mobs, WAR/MNK totally owns ;)
 
yes it make more sense to just say WAR/MNK are good tank is some kind of party

different jobs is need to fit the needs of the party.
so dont talk to make other think war/mnk is best tank or something. PLD/WAR and NIN/WAR can do much better, but since it is your game, play the way you want, you just have to sit in Jeuno for hours before someone ask you for party, and not always gonna ask you to be tank :P

go PLD/WAR or NIN/WAR or WAR/NIN if you to be a more useful tank.
But go war/mnk as you like, just dont fight over that it is best tank, so that other people will invite you.
 
Firstly I'd like to say, DAMN this board is having the hiccups bad today!!! Takin' forever to load stuff.

Now, on topic:

Micah, Warrior/anything is gonna be hard to level. You need to know this goin' into it. But!!! if you make yourself more versatile for your PARTY, and not just be selfish by only leveling the sub Mnk and thinkin' you're only gonna tank, you'll go further faster.

I myself, love my Warrior. She is my passion. But I learned long ago that what comes first is your party. Hence my leveling 4 subjobs for my Warrior (ie. Nin, Mnk, Thf, and Sam).

Bottom line is in this game, NO one can level well without bein' in a party situation. And, you need to think of not only yourself but the people who you'll be partying with. Therefore, yes you can try to tank to lvl 75 with your Warrior and a Monk sub, but you better be ready to sit in Jeuno for many many hours on end lfg.

And, that's my 2 gil on the subject.
 
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deleted do to double posting.
 
Veteran "Defender doesnt get you hate neither does aggressor... only berserk warcry and provoke for warrior that get hate".U lose hate when u use defender due to less dmg.
 
im jus sayin this again because its probaly been said before i just dont have it in me to read 6 pages of this lol but i prefer a pld tank over all because in my personal expeience PLDs can obtain hate and hold it with much less effort than war/mnk war/nin *also most warriors i know are offended if they are asked to tank because after 40 they really are DD not tanks...* or nin/war. Im well aware ninjas can hold hate if they cast 5000 spells nonstop but in the end i think its easyer for Paladins to tank/keep hate... paladins own you!
 
Well...This is all really situational. For levels 1-30, I think I would much rather have a war/mnk tanking. Paladins don't really have the full range of their hate tools yet and nins don't have the ni line of spells. After lvl 37...things change...a lot...
 
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