Well, after reading these posts and seeing how much hate there is towards friends of mine, I think this is not the place anymore to set up runs to meet new people.
I really loved making runs in here, never thought that I would see the day where there would be a flame on here including my friends, my LS and myself.
I know the flame is not against me, but when Atomic is brought up without any reason I feel the need to just write a couple of words. I hope noone minds.
Guess there is a time and place for everything eh :wink:.
For all it matters, Tenia and Byla are my longtime friends.
I did endgame with them for over a year in the past when I ran with Fury.
Never heard any complaints towards their skill.
I just completed CoP with my Ls, Tenia and Byla were there. Cant be all bad going through these missions, as you actually still need some skill to get anywhere in that chapter.
As for the Soboro run, I am sorry that things got ugly, I am sorry that you Lec decided to take this to the flameboard.
I dont know you that well Lec, but I can say that I was pretty happy to see that you were the first one to post on my Soboro thread, as I have been having alot of fun with you on Swift runs. Made me sad to see all the anger towards friends of mine, that in my book are extremely cool people and great players. There are a good ton of players that would say the same as I am now, but either they are not using this site or they just do not want to speak up, hoping that the flame will die.
Again, I am sorry that things got ugly, I am sorry that only one got to pop and get. I were looking forward to a great sunday with alot of nice people.
Tanjer
Matter was simple.
They didn't do the job expected of them, and then when myself and the other members who had signed up, called them on their subpar performance, they copped an attitude and said they wouldn't stay.
I brought it here because as good as your experiences were with them, the limited experience presented to myself and the people who went along for that run of yours were pisspoor.
Instead of taking responsibility for the mistakes made and acknowledge it, she kept going as if nothing were wrong and ignoring everyone's requests to pick up the slack a bit.
Eventually she cracked after everyone called her out on it and decided she didn't want to help anyone else and left.
Much anger and disgust was shifted toward your friends because of this, and I wanted to share my experience so perhaps someone else wouldn't have to deal with the heartache I did.
I stayed up quite late to make this run, to hopefully get mine and help a couple friends and I was greatly bothered to find out no one else would get to make an attempt, because your "stand-up" "good people" friends were sore that people wanted them to perform their jobs on-par with "decent" performance.
And in large end-game groups, it's hard to see some real skill shine and people can get away with playing subpar if there's someone else there to pick up their slack...
But the original flame where they were mentioned, was about a Limbus shell they ran with, and this run we did was a Soboro run with less than 2 parties worth of people.
Both of these events are more focused and attention demanding endeavors, where if you're off your game it shows... ;P
Just because you haven't heard a complaint or noticed it in your playtime with Fury doesn't mean that the talent is there.
You were THERE for that Soboro run.
You cannot tell me that in your mind for a split second, you thought that 1 out of 5+ stuns landing is the mark of a talented, Black Mage. Nor was that behavior of cut and bailing that of a reputable or stand-up person.
Now I don't doubt the fact maybe you've seen them as nice people and have had many a great experience with them, but this run was a prime example that the original flame about her in Limbus wasn't just a fluke or a bad day...
I'm sorry if my thoughts are quite broken, but I've a funeral to attend in a few hours.
I'm sure they're good friends of yours, but they are not and will not be good friends of mine anytime soon.
My friends have spines and don't run in anger when they're receiving what was constructive criticism or advice on how to better perform the job asked of them.
Take care Tanjer.