That's it, I'm at the end of my rope.

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What ticks me off more than not getting decent exp rates is when you have one person in the party who is screaming about the exp rate, when he doesn’t understand why we can’t get a high exp rate. Telling the party to go fight IT monsters, when the party dose not have enough healing power to deal with an IT monster, or enough damage power to pull off EXP Chains, screaming about it doesn’t help and is not going to change the fact.

Also if there are problems getting EXP, the first person you should look at is your self. If you are a Dark Knight and you are only doing 3 points of damage, then something is wrong. Then after that you can address everyone else to let them know what they may be doing wrong.

Can you tell I’ve been in the dunes all week?

Also screaming because we are not hitting exp chain 6 every single run with 200+ exp per fight doesn’t help either. If you want to be an extreme player you should go play with other extreme players. I am looking for decent EXP, not extreme EXP.

Ok, I’ve vented I feel better now.

PS: Lani Please fix your Avatar!
 
To be honest, I feel like I'm kind of taking up Keits' reins here. And I like it.

Neche said:
K, I don't care anymore. You post on forums to get answers, I gave you mine who cares.

We are all people here, except for those people who are people. I don't care what you do with your time while waiting for pties.
Level a craft n00b
or whatever you said. I have lv50 Woodworking and lv 60 Clothcraft. So don't just say random shit b4 you know it. I could care less about money.

If you didn't care anymore, why bother posting? Unless you're scrambling to recover whatever credibility you're losing by posting here (and being rebutted by everyone, both lower and higher level - since that matters so much to you.) You have 60 in a craft, 50 in another... and you can't make money. You say you couldn't care less. I say you're either lazy, amazingly stupid, lack basic understanding of economics, or a nice mix of the three.

My refreshes go to people who need it. I don't need it first. A good BLM will. I'm not a noob RDM. I know what my limits are and when i need shit. I shit +40mp Pumpkin pies out of my taru ass every morning. You can go suck on a popcicle.

Every 'good' RDM I've spoken to, in forums and ingame, basically concur the Refresh ladder goes Self, PLD, Main Healer, DRK, SMN, BLM. BLM should really NEVER need Refresh, since they have the best Clear Mind trait in the game and Conserve MP. Plus, if they're using all of their MP every fight, they're likely a DEAD BLM due to hijacking the hate to an unacceptable degree. A BLM that needs Refresh is a bad BLM. Plain and simple. And the pies? Well, you said you basically expected the melees and tanks to eat food - save gil for me, but not for thee?

WELCOME TO THE FLAME BOARD HAVE A NICE STAY
Thank you very much, but I need to call management cuz theres an annoying little fly buzzing in my ear.

I don't care if your lv75 or a fuckin GM you will get my 2cents. I posted here because I thought my imput would count. But apparently all it does it make you angry.

You're a bad judge of 'angry' as opposed to 'insulted by incredible stupidity.' Input counts when it's constructive. Your 'input' is what makes the Dunes so unbearable. Your 'input' is what tells bad players to just go ahead and party despite being completely unacceptable members.

Just fyi. PPS? *cough* /crickets. Please I need a list of people who give a damn about that. People do use 1337 speak more than PPS or PSS. So go have another popcicle.

You seemed to give a damn about my '1337' speak, despite not using it yourself. So what the hell, if you're going to keep butchering the English language in any way, shape, or form, I may as well hold you to the same standard you hold me to.

Reading about being a RDM. Is not being a RDM you moron. "faqs" give you the basic's. People who follow the basics end up refreshing DRK b4 PLD. If you do read up on all Jobs, then you would know. Raptor. Ceuorl do not have MP. Er go Aspir = 0. 40mp, and 3 INT They are wheaties. I don't eat breakfast, er go No wheaties. And yet i dont suck. Why waste 350 gil a pie, on something you dont need. Its like buying Kote, if your a WHM. You cant use it why have it? Oh cuz its nice to have +20 attack. But even if you can use it. Why would a WHM want it. They don't melee. Well some do, but just exclude them for this example.

Kote is a bad argument, as WHMs can't even equip it. But that's not the point. People who follow the 'basics' Refresh the PLD. And they don't refresh the BLM before themselves. But hey, keep on riding that rainbow of not needing extra MP in either Refresh OR food.


Congratulations! You have money. Go fuck it. Cause noone cares.

Seems like you do. I'd wager you've never come close to sniffing a million gil. But really, that's not the point. Some of us like to be poor. It's what keeps people on welfare instead of getting an education and a job that pays a living wage.

Again. Your basing all your opinions on yourself. PEOPLE AREN'T YOU. If there was abunch of people names Cubswoo running around, i would of emmigrated.

Because if the server was full of people like me, you would NEVER, EVER PARTY, BECAUSE NONE OF US WOULD WANT TO PIGGYBACK YOU FOR A SINGLE EXPERIENCE POINT. WE WOULD ALL DROP YOU, BLACKLIST YOU AND TELL EVERYONE IN OUR LINKSHELLS AND FRIEND LISTS.


*ahem* *Soliloquie* And I'm the Immature one?

Harsh words from a guy that can have his arguments summed up in three points:

1) I don't give a fuck what you think
2) I'm higher level than you, so I know more.
3) I get parties so I must be right.

Um.. feeding a family. And buying a porche. I'm sorry but thats the worst analogy I've ever heard.

Damn, maybe I should have used smaller words. Let's make this easier, so you can understand it:

Partying without food: Using food stamps to feed your family, since you're 'poor' and need everyone else to pay for your needs.

Partying with food: Taking your family to TGIF and dropping $40 on a plate of Buffalo Wings and some nice platters. Better time and a better experience.

Buying a Vermillion Cloak: The Porsche.

If you're saving up for that Porsche, will taking your family out to dinner once or twice a month really set you back towards that ultimate goal? Can you really justify not spending the gil? Well, shit, you'd better walk everywhere you party, because that chocobo fee doesn't NEED to be paid. Nor does the teleport fee. And that gun ranger should just switch to a bow, because he's wasting gil on bullets! And the Ninja, why is he tossing all those expensive Shurikens and those non-Shihei ninja tools?

TO PARTY PROPERLY, YOU NEED TO SPEND GIL. The fact that you can't understand that is simply baffling.



Again. Congratulations! You have money. Go fuck it. No one cares.{/quote]

Of COURSE you don't care. That's why you make the point twice.

I'm not saying that you should not want it. But if it isn't there. Then what? You'll be sitting there playing with legos as your recovering your MP, cause you used it up to fast. Everyone uses mp. It's called management. I'll buy you a god damn secretary to manage it for you.

If it's not there, then it's a bad party. Every party that has gotten anything close to acceptable XP has had either a BRD or RDM in it from 41 on. And if it's not there? I won't keep my summons out - I do know how to make critical decisions like that. They'll have to accept the fact that my Magic Bursts don't do double the damage of the RDM because my avatar can't build TP. Whatever.

Again. You depending on food. Depending on yourself >> No food. I will go solo e/p, d/c, mobs and won't use food. Good decisions? Where did decision making come in? Do you have a crazy, happy, funtime, language that I can't see or??

I'm getting more and more suprised that you figured out how to input the digits on a credit card to subscribe to this game. "Depending on yourself" means knowing the tools you need to be an optimal player. Would I still be a good player without food? Yeah, probably. But I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BEING 'GOOD.' You obviously are. Being a 'great' player is not something you consider yourself, nor do you seem to inspire yourself to do.

I do.

By my own admission, I'm a perfectionist. I'm an 'elitist fuck.' Because I love this game. I have an obligation to 5 other people every time I party to be the best Summoner they've ever partied with. I normally make good on that, from their own mouths - and I'm not social. You don't want to be the best RDM on this server, so you don't try. And that's FINE. You have accepted your place

Yup, I am an idiot, Nay. Cause "you dont like my attitude". And JP hate NA cause of me? I don't say shit all in Game. I get usually 1-2 JP invites a day, unless they are Chinese characters I'm seeing? You see the part of me who disagrees with what Cubs was saying. I run around Jeuno saying I'm the best look at me, be just like me. I hate what you look like change it! HEY YOU OVER THERE, STOP EATING PIES CAUSE I DONT EAT THEM! Excatly what I say.. You get a popcicle. Congratulations!.

I don't need to tell people I'm a good player. I just let them invite me and show them that.

RDM is an in-demand job. Many players choose it (just like WHM) because they know everyone wants one. They want people to fight over them regardless of their skill or gear, simply because everyone wants their Refresh or Raise II or whatever. I haven't had a chance to get Fenrir yet, and until I do, I fully expect to lose invites due to it. I don't have a level 70 job, nor do I have the gil to finance five level 75 mercenaries to get him for me (last I heard, the going rate just for the Fenrir fight was nearing a million, possibly more.) Could I make the gil? Hell yes I can. May I give up and do it eventually? Who knows.

I have the utmost respect for the 'low-demand' jobs, and the people who play them. Jobs like DRG, SMN, MNK, WAR (to an extent.) I understood fully that SMN was at the bottom of the mage ladder when I decided to take it up. We are an end-game job. Post-70, we're some of the best damage dealers a party can find. Until then? Pure support/backup heal role. I could have stuck with WHM to 75, sure. I can easily predict my level being around 60 or so if I'd stuck with it instead of stopping at 37 to have my Summoner perma-sub.

Do I care? Nope.

It's not a race, despite what you may want to believe.
 
not even gonna read the rest of what you wrote cubs. I finsihed what i had to say.

If ignorance is bliss- then both of us should be happy. Cuz we arent listening to each other. Just trying to burn one another.
 
And just FYI. I have a straight A average in school. I am no idiot. Economics has NOTHING EVER. To do with a game. I choose not to make money. I dont need moeny to survive. I'm 17, I don't use my own credit card. Having a high lvl craft does not mean you need to be rich. As far as credability goes, I could care less. I would rather solo to 75 then have to put up with people like you. I think its because of impatient people like you JP hate NA. As Nay said.

PPS- I will send you photo's of my report cards, if you do-not believe me.
 
I've been following this topic for awhile now. I agree with everything CubsWoo has said thus far. You are definitely the man, but this is something I've been reflecting on recently...

It's not a race, despite what you may want to believe.

This statement, sadly, is false. I realized this a bit too late though.

Earlier on, bad players got weeded out. Kazham (getting the keys), etc, and the farther along, the less bad players there were. These people are destined to advance, not through any accomplishments, but through sheer bullheaded persistance. Neche being a perfect example. (Thank you, by the way, for showing me your ignorance BEFORE I got into a party with you.)

I remember when I'd told my friends "Wait till you get to Garlaige Citadel, people really have their acts together, parties aren't stupid anymore!" Now ignorance has spread through Vana'diel, and no place is safe.

The biggest mistake I made was not hurrying more.
This game WAS a race to 75.
The race was to outrun the fools.

And maybe Sculli could nerf that avatar if Lani won't.
 
Please tell me my ignorance? Not eating pies? Ask ANYONE how as ever partied with me. ANYONE and you will see the truth. I;m not right here. Cub is not right here. We are expressing our point of views. There is no write or wrong, To a question that doesnt exsist.
 
Neche: I've read your posts, I've read your evidence, I've comprehended every word.

You're still wrong, and you still refuse to admit it.

Or everyone on this board except you is wrong, and we all refuse to admit it.

I'll hedge my bets on #1.

Garvin: Agreed, the bad players do seem to be a lot more abundant than I expected, even as I head up in level.

But as I've said before, I'm an optimist. I still hold out hope that they will eventually quit. If they don't? Well, shit, let them be happy. I'm proud of them for making it as far as they have. I'm patient. I can fish, I can craft, I can do other things that don't involve being dragged down by awful people.

And if/when I find a static, I can put other people and their shit to rest pretty much for good.
 
K I'm wrong. People should not level so they can buy armor they want. They should spend their money on cheap pies so they can do better. Having money is the most imporant thing in the world. There. Happy. Your right, I'm wrong. I'm a pussy little noob. There you go you have it.
 
PPS: Go research me, you see me in jeuno /c me.
Cubswoo said:
Garvin: Agreed, the bad players do seem to be a lot more abundant than I expected, even as I head up in level.
Your saying im a bad RDM. GO SEE FOR YOUR FUCKING SELF.
If your so intent on calling me a bad rdm. You go see. Just go.
 
Neche said:
PPS: Go research me, you see me in jeuno /c me.
Cubswoo said:
Garvin: Agreed, the bad players do seem to be a lot more abundant than I expected, even as I head up in level.
Your saying im a bad RDM. GO SEE FOR YOUR FUCKING SELF.
If your so intent on calling me a bad rdm. You go see. Just go.

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How would checking you in Jeuno show me anything about your ability to work in a party? Your gear? It would give me something of an impression, but not much.

And I never said you were a bad RDM. I simply said you were ok with being merely 'good.' I will say you're a terrible advice-giver and people like you are the reason why bad players are not put in their place.
 
1thing. Stop posting? Youve posted as much as me and that just shows how immature you are. You call me immature and a noob, but look at the comment you've written. *How would checking you in Jeuno show me anything about your ability to work in a party? Your gear? It would give me something of an impression, but not much. * Look. Just look! I may be immature but youve matched me every step of the way.
 
Um.
Neche
ur an idiot, people like you are why JPs hate NAs. I'm not sure if ny1 else mentioned this but thats what i think. Good lord, straight A's dont mean anything, if you wanna get all specific, what type of school are you in? How tough is the grading system? A in one school could be a C in another. ~.~
Quit
The
Game
Thank
You.
 
umm... Don't even act like you know me, or what i stand for. and the thread is dead, way to be on time. People don't care nemore. And I am prolly gonna either quit, or not- play as much, i havent played for an hour straigh in weeks. I'm not going to explain myself too you. But thank-you for making the obvisous even more obvious. If you read other posts, like my one for Cubswoo, You would of seen, i admitted to my actions here. Thank You for reading all the facts before you make presumtions about me. But really. You have no place to say
Idiot said:
A in one school could be a C in another. ~.~
Quit
The
Game
Thank
You.

*cough* If you wish to bash my intelligence, please, grow up first.
 
well im not gonna get into this little battle between the two tarus...

but i will say a couple of things about what Cubswoo said

yeeeaaa!!!! damn right!!!!

i have rdm at 68.. mnk at 51.. war at 49...thf at 48... etc

Lv 45-50 is hell.....

-most tanks i met have been very good... thats good
-most rdms i met have been horrible.... where's the refresh??!!
-most thfs i have met have been downright bad.... where SA+TA+VB??!!
-most whms have been good... if u can find one that is
-most smns have very good... except for a couple of smn/blm hmmm
-most melees(drk..mnk..drg..) were alright but many were starting to show their low acc affecting their battle performance
-most blm/brd/rng.... huh?? those jobs existed??

im glad to see Cubswoo said what he said..........if some people dont want to pt with him because of this.... thats good for both sides

Cubs i have never pt'd with you but i look forward to it when we get to

good night~~
 
wtf?

tarutaru whm in rse is the best thing. till AF
if you havnt noticed the MND+ is better than some lvl 45 breastplate.
or Tactician coat.
like a whm needs DEF gear. if you have a good enough tank you shouldnt be getting hit..
 
Blah...I don't have +1 gear but I have good gear. I suck bag at making money hence me being a slow leveler. I won't level until I have good gear and after a year I'm only a level 43 SMN (currently on hold until i can afford an Austere Doublet and a light/dark staff). I don't eat pies because nobody waits for me to get back 753 MP anyway...I've made the switch to Roasted Mushrooms to get as much MP back while resting as I can.

I get really, really nervous about my character when I join parties.
I'm currently at level 43 sporting

Seer's Tunic/doublet/whatever
Seer's Slacks
Seer's Pumps
Carbuncles Mitts
Electrum Hairpin
Electrum Ring
Astral Ring
White Cape (ready with Aurora at 44)
Energy Earring (or enhancing...can't remember what it's called..it's got +5 MP and you can only equip 1)
Black Earring
Holy Phail
Kulkulans (sp?) staff

I work my little tush off to try and do great on my summoner. No I can't afford the +1 gear but I'm doing my best to afford great gear. All this being said though I do appreciate a nice party over a great party. Nice as in the people are fun, enjoy the game and can laugh off a couple of mess ups. I hate BAD parties....nobody likes to die 3 times in a row but I think due to my complete lack of confidence I can apprieciate an easy going party more than an XP Machine.... :D
 
Neche, Neche, Neche, this forum just wouldn't be the same without you. Just like IGN wouldn't be the same without TheLordLurker or Diesel_AC, aka Asshat Incorperated.

/cheer CubsWoo


PS: /em steals stopposting.gif, got a few places I can use that.
 
This argument is really pointless. Yes, we've all had experience with NA players and JP players alike.

If you are so intent on having all these requirements in order to stay happy in an XP party, why not form the party yourself? I agree with some of your points, but if you want to avoid all this drama and crap, just form the party yourself, simple as that!
 
By the way, No, I'm not a lvl 75 BLM still using a Black Cloak. hahahaha Sporting tattoos with an Igquira Westkit and my BLING BLING Snow Ring. ^^
 
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