The cliche solo thread.

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dbuman

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Yay heres a topic for discussion:

Solo jobs vs party jobs... The fight to the death!

Do you suppose a job that can solo mobs for chain 5s of up to 230 exp has the right to exp in an area just as a party that gets the same exp from the same type and lv mob? This includes drg and beastmaster. Are you one of those types of people who calls out on soloers and says something like "Hey you gimp *insert job here*, go ahead and kill our exp, go ahead and solo because you cant get a pt with your gimpness"

Ive encountered this just the other day on my way to 65. Started at about 10.5k tnl at the beginning of wajaom woodlands, but 75s were killin too many mobs too fast. Maybe 1 popped every 2 min, but were claimed shortly after they popped. So i went to another lesser colibri camp at the leypoint where the birds pop by the 5s. I figured it could hold a party and a soloer, but apparently the pt dissapproved. They constantly complained, mainly fubio, and while every time i went by their pt, they were fighting a mob. I see no reason why they have to have a hissy fit just because the see someone kill a mob they have the right to kill. Just for the record, i was getting 4-5k an hr without the empy band, and lvled close to 2 hrs later with a pause inbetween
 
Ironically, this would've been a pretty tasteful reply to actually put in that solo-thread to begin with...why the FB? =/

Alot of people have already discussed that if someone's getting remotely good xp (and 4-5k/h is far above simply decent) then they have every right to camp. Most of the people that get irritated by soloers is because the soloer is only getting 12-50xp/kill at best which is really just a waste of the camp altogether.
 
thank you. Ashlin gave up on trying to get me to move. But fubio kept disrespecting me as a player. This part is where I add in the flame. He didn't believe me when i told him i get 130-230 exp per kill because of exp chains. But now that im 65, i cant really chain them anymore. I dont exp off them anymore anyway. I just wanted to put it out there that someone needs to fix fubio's attitude.
 
If you go exp somewhere and your the only person at X camp, who cares how much exp an hour u get. No one person or persons owns anything in this game. If a pt shows up they need to deal with it or move. Its no different than a party camping somewhere and another party camping on top instead of moving.
 
Whoever is in the spot first has the right to the camp, just because someone is alone doesn't mean that a party can come in and tell them to leave. From your OP, you were the second one to the camp, and I would have told you to leave too. As a soloer, you have much more options than an exp party, so just running over to an exp party's camp and killing there mobs, no matter how much exp you're getting, is rude.
 
hmmm i didnt "run over there and kill their mobs". they said i did but when they have 5 mobs at their camp and they slowly kill them and theres a constant source of 5+ mobs during their fights, its a bit excessive to be greedy. And ontop of that, soloers absolutely do NOT have a bigger range of places to camp than people in a pt. maybe if ur bst, but not drg
 
1st come, 1st serve, I say. But, the number of "party pushes out soloer" threads far outnumber the "soloer camps on top of party" threads, so this is really just accumulated bad karma by greedy parties in general coming back to haunt them. Maybe more soloers will start camping on top of parties, and then a truce will be formed, and everyone will benefit.
 
kind of a false hope there, pomp. Greed is in play on both sides, even if i dont want to admit it. Im tryin as fast as i can to level my drg and still keep it fun. I dont want to have to take a pt's mobs to exp, but its the best spot to solo. I was there soloing for the past week, and itd be hard to declare who was there first. If someone is there from thurs - sun without stopping, do they still have the right to exp there? when do these "rules" have extents, and when is it acceptable to exp around other pts? Is it just the linking areas that allow soloers to exp near pts? just because they can benefit the party by controlling links? what gain do soloers get from that? And in my personal opinion it has everything to do with how much exp u get from a mob and what use you're getting out of them. If you are gaining just as much as the pt and there are enough mobs to go around, I dont see any reason to move.
 
I figured someone like you would post a flame over something as silly as this. First off, if your going to tell a story, how bout you tell it like it really happened? We were xping there, as a party. Getting chain 5 220-260+. Then you came over and started killing our chain 5, granted, it doesnt slow us down a ton, but it was very annoying and rude. First off, we asked you to move, we were polite, we didnt say anything that would have offended you. I said this is a big area man, there are many places you can solo, why are you here soloing where a party is? I'll be the first to admit that i have one hell of an attitude problem towards shitty people and their shitty attitudes. You told me my party sucked, that we were killing to slow, yet there was never a bird in sight for chain 5 why? So we got tired of asking you, and did what comes next, and thats bitch and moan and make fun of you . :) I know very few people in this game that wouldnt have moved there soloing spot to a different spot to accomidate a party. I guess its just mutual respect. Maybe its cuz your a drg and your sour about never getting a party.(oops, there i go again) SO you tell your friend that we're the ones bein gthe assholes about the situation, so u tell him to come down and solo as well. So he gets down there, and claims a mob, then one pops while hes fighting, so he starts attacking that one also. So im the one with the shitty attitude? Yet your the one that cant just let it be over with? (You left btw, but brought your friend there, very brave of you.) I wont mention this thiefs name, because he was actually really cool about the situation after it was explained to him, he appologized and said he should have heard both sides of the story first. Nice guy really. So this was fun, i havent been in a flame for awhile, was getting a little upset that maybe my bad attitude was fading :/ Thanks for lettin me know i can still do it. Take care dragoon. Maybe ill see you around again sometime. Probably seeking or soloing. :) peace.
Fubs
 
Actually I didnt tell him to do it, he said he would, but i didnt think he would, so i invited him to pt so we could duo, but before i knew it, he was on his thf and so i disbanded and walked away. And about me calling your party sucky, I never said that, nice way to mis-quote someone. I said you killed them too slow. Too slow meaning slow enough to be greedy and refuse someone else the right to bear arms against an extra mob. After that, you kept insulting me, on my solo gear which isnt even my pt gear, and then you call me trashy for getting exp about the same as you. Nice going R-tard
 
The advantage of solo jobs is that you don't have to experience where the parties are. Levelling a solo job in a party area, unless you absolutely have to is retarded, and as a BST will very likely result in no experience and a lot of deaths as your pets disappear...
 
If you point me in the direction where the exp is better, id gladly move. Til then, o well
 
dbuman said:
If you point me in the direction where the exp is better, id gladly move. Til then, o well
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The passage to the south and east of that clearing has five lesser colibris in it, at least four of them are out of reach of a party in the clearing. (You may have to compete with Furyrush a L75 RMT RDM who seems to want a NM there, but he kills slow)

If you go east of that clearing there is an area with spiders panthers and malboros, South of that area has 4 lesser colibri spawns and is too small for a party (a spook spawns at night, but you can easily pull away from it, it doesn't wander far).

If you go east again from the spider panther malboro clearing there are 5 lesser colibris that spawn alone, and are generally used for soloing all on 5 min respawns.

All spots are about 3 min walk max from where you were and are never or almost never used for parties.
 
If you have a problem with an individual, bash the individual, not the job.
 
At the clearing where the haunt pops, Krebs usually solos over there, and he eats through colibri like its nobody's business. I was campin where u said furyrush likes to camp, but he was at the camp near the pt. The lil hallway just before the leypoint. I only went over by the camp to pick on a chain 5, one bird every now and then when i saw about 4-5 birds still up while the pt was fighting one. Yea i admit taking 2 birds once or twice there, but its not enough to derail a pt when all u can get is a chain 5. I mainly stayed back by furyrush at the hallway, but his lil voke macro got real annoying and just seeing him made me kinda gag. I dont ever go by the leypoint anymore as it is, so I think this topic is ready to be closed.
 
There are 8 bazillion lesser colibri camps, most are 2-4 birds, which isn't enough to support a party. Why not go to one of them instead of camping on the party?
 
>.> ill say it once again, i dont exp there anymore... end of discussion
 
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