The new Colbwa's?

I just wonder why so many people choose to pick on Winddie. He's one of the nice ones that you accuse of gillselling, lotta assholes out there for you to pick as targets.

Why not do that?

No sense flaming one of the few nice ones and turning them into assholes too.
 
Re: well i see it like this...

Istar said:
ultraseven said:
get over the whole gil sellers or other ppl that camp with gil sellers, etc etc... this shit is REALLY OLD and... know one cares. it will NEVER change a thing.
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DOOD if you cant handle it, get off the flame board MORON... what do you expect on a frickin flameboard...compliments and pats on the back? That's a different topic on the main page...and obviously, you care if you use 1 min of your day to read this thread and 20 more sec. to type about it >.>
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there a difference between s flame and whining lately these post have come more of whin then flame
 
ultraseven said:
get over the whole gil sellers or other ppl that camp with gil sellers, etc etc... this shit is REALLY OLD and... know one cares. it will NEVER change a thing.
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Vangs List for the week:


What's Hot : Gilsellers, The Saints, Reserving the new Xbox, Killing Vrtra


What's Not : Gilbuyers, The Eagles, Being a member of NH, 90% of Good Times threads are lame "I beat Maat" topics.


As you can clearly see U7, Gillsellers are In this week kthnx. :roll:
 
Re: well i see it like this...

hellstorm said:
there a difference between s flame and whining lately these post have come more of whin then flame
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Yeah. A Flame is meant to spread and entice anger, not get people to pull out the worlds smallest violin because you weren't in a 9k EXP/hr PT.
 
you blame everything on gilseller exept you should be blaming it more on people in general. The reason that cloth item are so much is because of supply and demand the item have higher demand because you have more consumers to buy and more crafter that craft. Now everyone want to make a profit for there farming and spider web and silk thread is not that easy to get. As these item rise so so does the prices of the item that use them. For example lets take the opaline dress which is currently going for 420k. now that not as much as some items but why is it that much? reason because it cost 80k per twincoon and you need 2 twincoon to make twin thread. if you where to buy twin thread it cost you 160k apeice. you also need 3 silk cloths, which are between 10 to 14k apeice really not that much. you need 1 rainbow thread 35k. need 1 rainbow cloth 100k and 1 velvet cloth 7 k.

ok do the math
160k x2 = 320k
12k x3 = 36
35k
100k
7k
= 498k

so the crafter is actually losing money. most of the crafted item are like that today and you complaining on the price of armor. You know how to stop this? farm it not for yourself but, for the ah. Currently there are alot of velvet cloths so the price is down.
same with silk: but there only 3 stacks of rainbow cloth. No twin threads at all. 1 twincoon. If you flood the market with good the price will drop.
only exception to this is them dam reseller bots. That buy low and sell at higher price. Do gilseller hurt econemy? somewhat yes, but the lack of ability of getting items for the number of people on the server is the real reason why the prices are like they are. So the only way to make the item fall in price is to make them more exceptible to larger number of people. This is why SE made the archer rings, PCC, LL, emp pin a bcnm this allow better odd of people getting these item and also allow the prices on these item to drop. Though lot people are lazy to do bcnm's so the price stay high. This is why the gilseller make so much. This why people like oden and other make so much, they spend the time to camp these items.
 
hellstorm said:
you blame everything on gilseller exept you should be blaming it more on people in general. The reason that cloth item are so much is because of supply and demand the item have higher demand because you have more consumers to buy and more crafter that craft. Now everyone want to make a profit for there farming and spider web and silk thread is not that easy to get. As these item rise so so does the prices of the item that use them. For example lets take the opaline dress which is currently going for 420k. now that not as much as some items but why is it that much? reason because it cost 80k per twincoon and you need 2 twincoon to make twin thread. if you where to buy twin thread it cost you 160k apeice. you also need 3 silk cloths, which are between 10 to 14k apeice really not that much. you need 1 rainbow thread 35k. need 1 rainbow cloth 100k and 1 velvet cloth 7 k.

ok do the math
160k x2 = 320k
12k x3 = 36
35k
100k
7k
= 498k

so the crafter is actually losing money. most of the crafted item are like that today and you complaining on the price of armor. You know how to stop this? farm it not for yourself but, for the ah. Currently there are alot of velvet cloths so the price is down.
same with silk: but there only 3 stacks of rainbow cloth. No twin threads at all. 1 twincoon. If you flood the market with good the price will drop.
only exception to this is them dam reseller bots. That buy low and sell at higher price. Do gilseller hurt econemy? somewhat yes, but the lack of ability of getting items for the number of people on the server is the real reason why the prices are like they are. So the only way to make the item fall in price is to make them more exceptible to larger number of people. This is why SE made the archer rings, PCC, LL, emp pin a bcnm this allow better odd of people getting these item and also allow the prices on these item to drop. Though lot people are lazy to do bcnm's so the price stay high. This is why the gilseller make so much. This why people like oden and other make so much, they spend the time to camp these items.
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lol You should go to zitah to farm tree cutting and you will find out if it true or not. There always 3 gilsellers there that 2 thief and one bard/bst or red/bst, they claim everything. The price of tree cutting went from 90k to 170k, which cause problem to gardener, as the resulted the price of gardening item went up. So gilsellers only have somewhat do with the price raise in ah?
 
Here's an idea:


Quit buying the shit until the prices go down.


Prices only stay up because idiots pay it.
 
Skaw said:
Here's an idea:


Quit buying the shit until the prices go down.


Prices only stay up because idiots pay it.
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yes this is true but you see if price went down then people whould not farm that item which causes the price to raise back up. as for treecutting you buy them for 170k and turn around and make element ore which sell between 300 to 600k so even at that price you are making a pretty good profit better then a good amount of the crafters. Also the gil seller are going to go where the money is because im sure they have a quota they have to meet so sould expect that and there alot of gilseller on r server atleast 4 big group and several smaller group so there going to be farming alot. JP are bad at it to they like to sell item for about twice there worth.
 
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