The new PSP - NGP

[Strid]

And Strid, I do share some of your fears about digital-only distributions; but if they just make it so you can "dock" the NGP with your computer, and load/unload games/saves onto your computer, then that would solve that issue.

Right, I could accept that more easily but that wouldn't really work out for Sony. All that would do is make some of the hacking a lot easier than it already is. When it's all said and done though, I'm just really partial to my box, book, and physical media product. Hopefully by the time everything does DD though they'll have worked out a much better system of storing games, if not, oh well, you have to move on at times whether you like it or not.

 

[Elemmire]

I'm with Strid, you wanting the backwards compatibility is fine and all, but you're being incredibly irrational about it.

Once again, it is completely legal for you to just download copies of the games you own on UMD. There's your legal, free, and easy way to keep using all of your UMD games with the new hand held. If you're not willing to take the simple and effective step to overcome your problem, then that's on you, but you can not seriously expect Sony to hold on to a dead format just because you won't move on.

You will still have your PSP to play the UMD's if you don't obtain digital copies of them; just pick which one you want to play that day before you leave the house and take that with you if you don't have enough space in your bag. Also, the bag thing isn't as relevant for resolving the problem of carrying all the UMD's around; men don't typically walk around with a bag to hold their stuff, so half the players would run into space issues real quick.

And Strid, I do share some of your fears about digital-only distributions; but if they just make it so you can "dock" the NGP with your computer, and load/unload games/saves onto your computer, then that would solve that issue. It'd be the same thing I do with my iPhone, I download an app/song, plug it into my computer, and now I have a permanent backup on my hard drive, so I don't care if the internet goes down. I'm also not opposed to them distributing physical media for the games, but not if that's going to be the primary vehicle for distribution.

They also have Micro SD->MSPD adapters, and since you can get 256GB micro SD cards(with 2TB cards being an eventual maximum), space on a card is a complete non-issue. Even if you had to carry around a few of them, they're small enough that they fit in any pocket without problems.

Generally to download the digital copies you have to hack your PSP, that's technically against the use/agreement when I bought and play it online and stuff. I expect Sony to offer a legal way to acquire digital copies of games I already own that won't require me to hack my PSP. As much as I have no problem doing it, it is still illegal.

I probably will eventually get NGP and I probably will put everything digital, but it won't be any time soon :\ I can get over the UMD bit if I really have so much space, but I can't get over the possibility of being charged again for the same games. Though, in truth I can't judge that until Sony announces their policy on it.

 

[Bajaratt]

Generally to download the digital copies you have to hack your PSP, that's technically against the use/agreement when I bought and play it online and stuff. I expect Sony to offer a legal way to acquire digital copies of games I already own that won't require me to hack my PSP. As much as I have no problem doing it, it is still illegal.

I probably will eventually get NGP and I probably will put everything digital, but it won't be any time soon :\ I can get over the UMD bit if I really have so much space, but I can't get over the possibility of being charged again for the same games. Though, in truth I can't judge that until Sony announces their policy on it.

From what I'm aware of, there's no hacking, you just play the games off your MSPD card. There wasn't any modification of the PSP at all required.

Also, modifying your own system is not illegal in any sense; provided that you own it and aren't renting it, you can do whatever the hell you want to it.

Edit: it's also not up to Sony to provide digital downloads of all the games that came out of the PSP; it's up to the individual game developers to make a digital version of their game and it looks like some of them either don't care to or don't want to make a digital version.

 

[Myrrh]

ITT: Ele doesn't know how PSP works.

 

[Elemmire]

From what I'm aware of, there's no hacking, you just play the games off your MSPD card. There wasn't any modification of the PSP at all required.

Also, modifying your own system is not illegal in any sense; provided that you own it and aren't renting it, you can do whatever the hell you want to it.

Edit: it's also not up to Sony to provide digital downloads of all the games that came out of the PSP; it's up to the individual game developers to make a digital version of their game and it looks like some of them either don't care to or don't want to make a digital version.

Sony can give incentives to them and some of the games Sony does own directly as well (either first party or a contract they had with the people to own it too). I still would expect them to urge the process to help convert UMD games to Digital for the NGP (hell, I was expecting it for the Go so people didn't have to rebuy them).

And boo you Myrrh. I know how the PSP works, just not all the legal bullshit legal bullshit bothers me and is confusing at times :| I've read it being illegal and now same time not illegal >.> bah.

 

[Halifirien]

Buying a digital copy of a game you already own on UMD sucks on general principle, but a lot of these games have been out so long you can get 'em for $10-$15 from PSN. It probably won't break the bank unless you're trying to replace your entire library all at once.

 

[Strid]

From what I'm aware of, there's no hacking, you just play the games off your MSPD card. There wasn't any modification of the PSP at all required.

Also, modifying your own system is not illegal in any sense; provided that you own it and aren't renting it, you can do whatever the hell you want to it.

There is a modification to the PSP, but it isn't hardware related, it's a soft mod. You just flash the system's core, via pictures, which allows it to accept the installation of a custom firmware. It's only this simple for the original 1000 models though. Newer models do not require any hardware mods, though a recovery tool battery is needed for the flash to stick, but have the problem of not saving the mod after a system shutdown. This information is older than five months, at least, though so progress could have been made in that area.

I'll also stress this isn't illegal in any way. Sony is taking GeoHot to court over the recent PS3 hacking situation, but on the grounds of hacking his system he can't be found guilty of anything illegal. It is the stuff outside of the system modifications he is being fought for, for just one example: they're saying he tried to extort them when he gained access to the PS3's root key. The only thing illegal in the PSP mod sector is if you're downloading and playing games you did not buy the rights to use, the standard piracy stuff.

 

[Pascal]

It is the stuff outside of the system modifications he is being fought for, for just one example: they're saying he tried to extort them when he gained access to the PS3's root key.

That is not in Sony's complaint, that was in their motion papers arguing jurisdiction. He is being sued for violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Contributory Copyright Infringment - Copyright Act, California Computer Crime Law, Breach of the PlayStation Network Terms of Service and User Agreement, Tortious Interference with Contractual Relations, Trespass and, Common Law Misappropriation.

At this stage it is still too earily to tell what in the complaint will stick. They are still fighting about jurisdiction. Currently the California court has found it has limited jurisdiction for the temporary restraining order, but has yet to determine if this case should be tried in Califorina or in New Jersey.

 

[Strid]

That is not in Sony's complaint, that was in their motion papers arguing jurisdiction. He is being sued for violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Contributory Copyright Infringment - Copyright Act, California Computer Crime Law, Breach of the PlayStation Network Terms of Service and User Agreement, Tortious Interference with Contractual Relations, Trespass and, Common Law Misappropriation.

That's just stupid, they don't have a chance in hell goin' for any of that... the should have stuck with the original claims, that would have at least gotten them something.