The Princess Complex

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Sorry I'm late for this buuuuut.....

Since when does gear = skill?

And most people think Good MNK = auto attakz real fast go go!
 
Xalioniaf said:
From the look of it there's a fair handful of people backing that Revear is a decent player.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was just an off day.
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Maybe. I do recall Revear in LS chat not wanting to pt on RDM, but a LS member may have made him pt, lol. But who knows.


(this was actually just last night)

I dunno about RDM, but his other jobs he plays fine at.
 
First off just gonna say, I've known Revear for a long time, like three years, and yes he is a UK player so if it was US night then he was probably tired as shit. From when I have partied with him on numerous occasions he has been really good at what he does even though that has just been on his melee jobs (WAR and MNK). He does have experience on RDM to my knowledge considering he's played for Dation(75NIN,WAR,RDM, some other shit). So now that that's said I'm just posting so I can make fun of his noob ass for WSing in Kirins :)

But yea, now a days a lot of the gear he has (Osode, Shura body/legs etc) isn't that hard to get if you are in a good shell.
melfie said:
Errr first one is WS, second one is Chi Blast and third one is TP Gear.

Oops x.x lol
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Lol that noob bitch is WS in Kirins.
Isomiau said:
motion that no self respecting monk tp's in an osode, uses avengers, or chi blasts with a moldy...

:wink:
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Yea osode is pretty useless to most MNK considering AF is just 8 straight melee hits in a row and ACC is the biggest help. (Hmm +10ATT +20ACC or +10 everythang )
Tristam Green said:
established already :p

I agree with STEELFIST (you're right Rappa, it works!), and also with Doth's epic observations. People can suck balls no matter how many 75's they have, and yes. Newer folk are sucking hard.
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Revears been playing since early 04 I think, I remember him and Dation(his RL friend) were my first friends I met in the dunes when I was on my WAR10/nothing.
Revear said:
1. i was keeping pld and myself refreshed
2. i was curing and feebleing the mob
3. i was curing dident u c me convert a few times cause i had no mp.
final y my friend was removed from sparta because he had work and couldent show cept for one KB and ive not shown to nothing yet i havent been removed whats up with that case closed. ter was ur fault i left.
and thank you to everyone who backed me nice to no people care.
and ter or anyone in that pt i was in wanna bitch about me send me a /tell
:nono:
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Bitch don't WS in Kirins <3
Makelith said:
Also, there was a GT thread awhile ago, about a mnk that got his BB before 75, and get it within a week. Real super hard to get huh?
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My buddy on Hades has a level 40 MNK with a BB, then again hes in DaFunk (best shell on Hades) and hes got like 6 75 jobs. <,<

But still if basically everyone in the shell that needs BB has it then it's not so hard to get if you're in a great shell.

-Solan
ilu revear <,<
 
jyakotsu said:
um 80% of his gear couldn't have been handed down to him 'tard

Its r/ex.... Look at it Lets go down the list of the listed gear as an example

Avengers(r/ex)
Genbu's Kabuto(R/ex)
Shura Togi(r/ex) K.Osode( Non-r/ex)
Amemet mantle +1(not hard or expensive to get)
BB (3/3 pieces r/ex)
Haidate(r/ex)
COP Ring(R/ex)
Brutal(R/ex)
PCC(Idk if its amulet or not)
Melee gloves(AF2 R/ex)
Jaeger ring or snipers idk(Non r/ex)
I dont remember which feet he has

If you look at it its 9-10 pieces of that gear are easily r/ex, how is 80% of his gear handed down?
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I ment his mnd setup, his other setups are pretty weak compared to real MNKs anyways.
 
well maybe not weak but he isn't the best mnk nore does he come close.
 
Princess complex, eh?
I personally would call it a diva complex since RDMs (and BRDs) think they can do almost anything and still get away with it just because they are needed.

Now I am a RDM but I would hardly consider myself a diva >.>
I worked hard to get to where I am and it makes me sad that people think they can play RDM by just casting refresh once in a while and maybe toss out a few cures. It's not a job that should be attempted just because you know you'd get to 75 quickly.

Just because you're good at melee jobs doesn't necessarily mean that you'd be good at mage jobs. Just because you have multiple 75s doesn't make you better than anybody else.
I'm trying to say that if a person has multiple melee jobs at 75 and is good at them, that does not necessarily mean that they will be good at mage jobs.
Likewise, if a person has multiple mage jobs at 75, that does not make them naturals at melee jobs. And no I'm not talking about the engage and auto-attacking the mob either.

If a RDM is not exactly doing well by your standards then make it known to that player. Don't let them get away with how they are playing. Chances are, if they chose that job for their first 75, they're looking for a free ride.
They think that even if they do crappy that eventually they'll get to 75, and you know what? They're right.
Some people are desperate for that special spell, and only for that reason alone they'll just cast refresh and sit there looking pretty for the rest of the fights.


Gogo insomnia....
 
Revear said:
1. i was keeping pld and myself refreshed
2. i was curing and feebleing the mob
3. i was curing dident u c me convert a few times cause i had no mp.
final y my friend was removed from sparta because he had work and couldent show cept for one KB and ive not shown to nothing yet i havent been removed whats up with that case closed. ter was ur fault i left.
and thank you to everyone who backed me nice to no people care.
and ter or anyone in that pt i was in wanna bitch about me send me a /tell
:nono:
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I guess English isn't your native language?
 
Garvin said:
It's Magic Points. It's always been Magic Points, and always will be Magic Points.
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I agree with you, cos I want to say that I grew up with Final Fantasy onry and act all cool and stuff! That aside, yeah, I always wondered why SE called it Manafont too. I was kinda disappointed back when I first knew about this 2hr .. oh so many years ago.


I also agree with Raesylil in that, the fact that someone has another 75 job (or even multiple other 75 jobs) does not make them naturally good at the job they are currently leveling.

In all my time on FFXI, I had never really played a melee job seriously. In fact, I had only recently started taking DRK up and I am currently at a newby level of 24 on that one.

While I was leveling up WAR to sub to DRK, I couldn't understand the mechanics of melee (I still don't but I know a little more now). Simple stuff like how much difference a capped skill makes in terms of hits that connect.

Back when I was on mage, it wasn't critical to have capped skills for weapons all the time and I usually just attribute any negative stuff to lower native skills for the weapons. Now I try to keep my main weapons capped all the time.
 
His gear isn't bad at all, just TPing in Osode on MNK is a bit silly. And him not managing to have Destroyers when he has a black belt is just sorta funny. =P

Also could use a Tiphia Sting, they're only like 130k nowadays aren't they?

Anyhow, as it's already been said - Being good at one job doesn't make you good at another job, nor does throwing money at it.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
Maybe. I do recall Revear in LS chat not wanting to pt on RDM, but a LS member may have made him pt, lol. But who knows.


(this was actually just last night)

I dunno about RDM, but his other jobs he plays fine at.
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I think youre thinking of me asking Svichi to exp his rdm yesterday, and he did not want to.
 
For the third time... gear does not = skill... I said that in my first post. For the last time, the gear he has takes time to get. In that time, some people learn things. Like how to play RDM even though you've never leveled RDM. Revear is one of those people. He's not dumb. He wasn't having a bad night. I talked to him on vent after that party because he had something to tell me. There were multiple times when he had no MP and they were still pulling. He got fed up with the leader and left the PT abruptly, if you want to flame him, flame him for something he actually did(ie leaving the PT without warning.)
 
melfie said:
For the third time... gear does not = skill... I said that in my first post. For the last time, the gear he has takes time to get. In that time, some people learn things. Like how to play RDM even though you've never leveled RDM. Revear is one of those people. He's not dumb. He wasn't having a bad night. I talked to him on vent after that party because he had something to tell me. There were multiple times when he had no MP and they were still pulling. He got fed up with the leader and left the PT abruptly, if you want to flame him, flame him for something he actually did(ie leaving the PT without warning.)
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You gotta say it like every cool person on this board.
gear != skill
 
I don't have much to add other than the guy could have been rusty or something. I leveled my rdm last night for the first time in several months with my cousin's drk and my bf's sam. All of us were rusty as hell so I feel pretty bad for our party lol. There was some death (freaking incinerate) but I can honestly say that my convert ability was used at pretty much every opportunity as I was the only mage other than a blu/thf.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you're a rdm that has to make every party on the road to 75 (freaking lazy drk and sam), you have less of a princess complex. Although I don't know if that makes me a better rdm or not. :)

Celvantes said:
Wow... that's like Bluewind-level AFK. :shok:
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Pfft, that level of AFK does not exist outside of that taru...
 
Oh, and I know Revear, he's in my LS and a good player. He was on RDM last night and we had no complaints...and his chi blasts are sick.
 
melfie said:
For the third time... gear does not = skill... I said that in my first post. For the last time, the gear he has takes time to get. In that time, some people learn things. Like how to play RDM even though you've never leveled RDM. Revear is one of those people. He's not dumb. He wasn't having a bad night. I talked to him on vent after that party because he had something to tell me. There were multiple times when he had no MP and they were still pulling. He got fed up with the leader and left the PT abruptly, if you want to flame him, flame him for something he actually did(ie leaving the PT without warning.)
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In regards to the bolded part, that's true, just as long you don't forget the word *some*. There are plenty of people out there who've only levelled one job or one general type of job, have done all sorts of endgame on that job, but haven't paid enough attention to other job types to be able to play them remotely well. In other words, you can by all means attest that *Revear* knows how to play RDM well, from observation as he endgames on MNK. But it would be a fallacy to attest that just because *someone* endgames on MNK, they've not only noticed but learned from their RDMs.

Otherwise, I'd just like to point out the following:

Revear said:
1. i was keeping pld and myself refreshed
2. i was curing and feebleing the mob
3. i was curing dident u c me convert a few times cause i had no mp.
final y my friend was removed from sparta because he had work and couldent show cept for one KB and ive not shown to nothing yet i havent been removed whats up with that case closed. ter was ur fault i left.
and thank you to everyone who backed me nice to no people care.
and ter or anyone in that pt i was in wanna bitch about me send me a /tell
:nono:
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- While grammar and communication skills do not necessarily imply competence at gameplay, they *do* imply intelligence and caring about how others perceive you. Which are generally beneficial traits (not *required*, but *useful*) for competence at gameplay. Abbreviating two letters out of words (it's not like you're having a real-time conversation with texting where you're in a rush, here...) and using hard to decipher grammar, isn't gonna win you any points.

If you're gonna make an impression, take an extra 30 seconds to be intelligible. A few misspellings or weird grammar here and there isn't a problem (and only a grammar nazi thinks otherwise), but when you take it to this extreme, you deserve criticism. :P

(Also, in before "this is a game/forum, not school/English/essay" response. Which is commonly known to be meaningless to any educated person who actually understands *why* you learn that stuff in school, so heads up so you don't bother to use that argument.)

- This account of events (busily doing usual RDM stuff, going through MP and needing to convert, as busy RDMs tend to do) differs from STEELFIST's account of events in the OP (standing around with constantly near-full MP doing very little). So I think I'll withhold judgment until such time as both sides agree on what you actually were or were not doing in that party.
 
(Also, I too find the Black Belt without Destroyers combo to be very amusing.)
 
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