The virtue of Absolute Virtue

[Zethren]

Hopefully AV is beaten after this update and most of the stupid ass theories will be put to rest...

 

[Urat]

Hopefully AV is beaten after this update and most of the stupid ass theories will be put to rest...

And the people complaining about the fact that some people enjoy theorizing about av will stfu and get over themselves and go post in a different thread that they "don't enjoy reading"

 

[Isollde]

And the people complaining about the fact that some people enjoy theorizing about av will stfu and get over themselves and go post in a different thread that they "don't enjoy reading"

lol.. QFT

 

[Xalioniaf]

Absolute Virtue is a monster that can appear randomly after Jailer of Love has been defeated. It is regarded very tough and all of it's previous kills have been through glitches or illegal methods. However, there is a secret way to defeat AV. Actually, many secret ways. Unfortunately, once a player has passed Promathia Mission 8-1, he is unable to see how to defeat AV. This is why experienced players should listen to players who have no experience what-so-ever.
It is believed to defeat AV, you have to lock out his ability to use any 2hr, very potent spells, his very potent regen, and powerful weapon skills. Those players with no experience have listed the methods to lock such powerful traits:

• Ebon Panels
• Face the direction aligned with the element of the day.
• Do a weapon skill with the virtue weapons.
• Do a skillchain with the virtue weapons.
• Do a skillchain with the sin weapons.
• Do a skillchain with a virtue weapon and a sin weapon.
• Do a barrelroll with a virtue weapon.
• Do a little dance and make a little love with a virtue weapon.
• Touch an Ebon Panel with a virtue weapon.
• Feel the emotion of the virtue weapon that you curently have equipped. This is done by plugging in an audio device and talking into it. For example, if you had the weapon Justice Sword equipped you would say "I feel very justice."
• Tap your JP Button with a virtue weapon.
• Trade your virtue weapon to the Jailer of Hope's ???.
• Trust your virtue weapon.
• Be your virtue weapon.
• Believe in the heart of the cards.
• Summon Dialga to use Roar of Times.
• Face the direction aligned with the element of your virtue weapon. For HQ results, face the opposite direction.
• All of the above, simultaneously.
• Have every kclub DRK transfer to Remora to summon Captain Planet.
• Throw Sage Sundi at it.
• Do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around.
• Kite it around the teleporters.
• Bring a phalanx of stunners.

 

[Urat]

Do a barrelroll with a virtue weapon.

This one made me burst out laughing cause I wasn't ready for it.

But seriously, I think so far the only valid theories that have stuff backing them up is:

A phalanx of stunners;

Not that hard nowadays. couple dnc and blus and your set with a neverending supply of stuns, and all of them can have utsu up.

Or:

Using the same 2 hour as AV will lock that 2 hour. This came from the video released be the dev team, specifically the part where 3 things happen. Everyone 2 hours WITH AV, it zooms up for this, AND a couple whms all pop benediction for some obscure reason when no one in the pt is even remotely close to dying.

Personally if you still refuse to believe the dev team wasn't trying to tell us our 2 hours have something to do with it through these 3 points alone, your retarded, what kind of whm do you know of that 2 hours when no one is hurt...? Let alone 2?

Aside from that, the chances of the jailor's weapons are slim to none, though they may do something like have an added hidden effect we didn't notice VS jailor type mobs.

And throwing a virtue stone is, mmm, I'd say a 1 in 10 chance of doing something. It's kind of an iffy idea.

Ebon panels? Once upon a time they WERE the secret weapon, but now...

So we have 1 extremely almost impossible to deny theory (just 2 hours in general, no specifics), 1 strategy that is highly possible, and a second iffy theory that we have yet to just friggin try and see if it works...

>_>;

 

[Tyrath]

A phalanx of stunners;

Not that hard nowadays. couple dnc and blus and your set with a neverending supply of stuns, and all of them can have utsu up.

This is why people yell at you guys for trying to come up with ideas.

Blus and Dancers will never stick stun on Absolute Virtue. (For that matter I don't think even blm or drk can stun him, he might be immune.) But as a general rule, blu and dnc stun on HNMs is useless.

Using the same 2 hour as AV will lock that 2 hour. This came from the video released be the dev team, specifically the part where 3 things happen. Everyone 2 hours WITH AV, it zooms up for this, AND a couple whms all pop benediction for some obscure reason when no one in the pt is even remotely close to dying.

Aside from that, the chances of the jailor's weapons are slim to none, though they may do something like have an added hidden effect we didn't notice VS jailor type mobs.

And throwing a virtue stone is, mmm, I'd say a 1 in 10 chance of doing something. It's kind of an iffy idea.

And also because everything you come up with has been tested with no results. Such as these ideas.

 

[Tyrath]

oops double post

 

[Moink]

This is why people yell at you guys for trying to come up with ideas.

Blus and Dancers will never stick stun on Absolute Virtue.

I would agree with what Tyrath says...

1) You guys are thinking way too hard on this NM
2) Throwing mass amounts of man power at a grinding machine is only going to cause you more anguish and grief then need be.

You need to think simple and watch the video or read the post of the 4 videos properly placed together.

There is one strong clue that doesn't stick out well but its there and if you can think about it then you can possibly start building more valid thoeries.

With that said: I did go after AV yesterday but my plan back fired on me and I did what I wasn't suppose to do.

I will also say that when I was up against AV, I was raising a friend who had his ass handed to him by AV and AS SOON AS RIII was done, he chainspelled and Tornado II my ass to the ground. After doing so, he went back to non aggressive once more... Is there any reason why AV would agro a spell going off without being aggrod in the 1st place?

 

[Moink]

This one made me burst out laughing cause I wasn't ready for it.

But seriously, I think so far the only valid theories that have stuff backing them up is:

A phalanx of stunners;

Not that hard nowadays. couple dnc and blus and your set with a neverending supply of stuns, and all of them can have utsu up.

Or:

Using the same 2 hour as AV will lock that 2 hour. This came from the video released be the dev team, specifically the part where 3 things happen. Everyone 2 hours WITH AV, it zooms up for this, AND a couple whms all pop benediction for some obscure reason when no one in the pt is even remotely close to dying.

You can't lock the two-hours, the point of the video is to show you what to do to weaken them. Its the only reason why they zoom into the video too show you that using a 2hr while he does will cause an effect. But how? or even Why? they do that is somewhat of a mystery. I need As many AVs as I can get to test everything I can and in rapid succession, otherwise I fail like last night.

Personally if you still refuse to believe the dev team wasn't trying to tell us our 2 hours have something to do with it through these 3 points alone, your retarded, what kind of whm do you know of that 2 hours when no one is hurt...? Let alone 2?

They were telling us something but noone takes notice to it, because its so minute. The 2hrs can be used to help aide your party just as much as it would AV, the point is that they are just showing you what to do. Many mages did 2hrs and they did nothing, you can speculate "well I'll waste my 2hr and that will work" wrong, both deffensive and offensive 2hrs were used.

Aside from that, the chances of the jailor's weapons are slim to none, though they may do something like have an added hidden effect we didn't notice VS jailor type mobs.

And throwing a virtue stone is, mmm, I'd say a 1 in 10 chance of doing something. It's kind of an iffy idea.

The weapons don't have an "exact" clue to them, but they do hint to something, so I will say your close.

Ebon panels? Once upon a time they WERE the secret weapon, but now...

So we have 1 extremely almost impossible to deny theory (just 2 hours in general, no specifics), 1 strategy that is highly possible, and a second iffy theory that we have yet to just friggin try and see if it works...

>_>;

Keep looking the answer IS in the video. You just can't see it, and SE doesn't want to show you it directly, theyre going after and used an indirect approach for it.

 

[Grandphoenix]

If it's in the video..but you can't see it..nevermind

 

[Moink]

If it's in the video..but you can't see it..nevermind

Glad you can read all the thread and place out a segment to make you feel cool...

I said SE is using an INDIRECT approach, MEANING the secret is in the video but not to the point where they say "Here's the answer, now go do it"

Its like swinging a baseball bat at someones head and guessing which eye is going to pop out first, but the man only has one eye...

 

[Tyrath]

If by indirect approach you mean stupid approach then yes, I'll give it to you.

Its so cryptic no one has been able to figure it out and no one will. Thats why they are nerfing it and probably gonna change the trick COMPLETELY before its unveiled.

 

[Grandphoenix]

not worth the effort anymore

 

[Rappa]

Its like swinging a baseball bat at someones head and guessing which eye is going to pop out first, but the man only has one eye...

...what is it with people at qcdn and retardedly stupid similes? Similies at qcdn are like garlic bread that is dipped in chocolate and then wrapped in a tortilla.

 

[Moink]

...what is it with people at qcdn and retardedly stupid similes? Similies at qcdn are like garlic bread that is dipped in chocolate and then wrapped in a tortilla.

sounds about right lol

 

[Moink]

If by indirect approach you mean stupid approach then yes, I'll give it to you.

Its so cryptic no one has been able to figure it out and no one will. Thats why they are nerfing it and probably gonna change the trick COMPLETELY before its unveiled.

Noone has, it doesn't mean someone won't. It is unfortunate that the mass community gave up on AV and yet AV remains undefeatable and secret still hidden. Reminds me of when the mass population assumed that Europe and Asia were the only lands until the Vikings and/or Columbus stummbled upon the New land. To me, what couldn't be any more of a dead horse beating is how you all profess it can't be done.

Let those who actually want to have new ideas and thoeries express themselves here and those that really think there is no way to stop AV can go read and post in another thread they don't really "care" about posting in,

 

[Courtney]

The crux of the issue is that while Benediction is one of the 2 hours that AV can use, it isn't practical to defeat AV. I'm not sure what you mean by "weakening" 2 hrs, I've never even heard of Bene not returning full HP.

In addition, a lot of people have tried a lot of variations on the "Use 2hr after AV 2hrs" theme, and noone has succeeded in preventing AV from 2hring, delaying AV from 2 hring, or even eliminating/controlling any of AVs 2hrs.

And yet in the video, a significant number of players 2hr for no discernable effect as soon as AV 2hrs, a tactic thats never been seen used on any other mob...

 

[Moink]

The crux of the issue is that while Benediction is one of the 2 hours that AV can use, it isn't practical to defeat AV. I'm not sure what you mean by "weakening" 2 hrs, I've never even heard of Bene not returning full HP.

Probably one of the few instances where I would doubt weakening is plausible, but its about one of the only available 2hrs that couldnt be weakened. I won't know until I'm up infront of AV and perform it right.

In addition, a lot of people have tried a lot of variations on the "Use 2hr after AV 2hrs" theme, and noone has succeeded in preventing AV from 2hring, delaying AV from 2 hring, or even eliminating/controlling any of AVs 2hrs.

QFT, but that doesn't mean there aren't more methods others have not thought of. I've search BG, All, Wiki, KI for all sorts of ideas and the one tthat I have thoerized has been mentioned in any thread.

And yet in the video, a significant number of players 2hr for no discernable effect as soon as AV 2hrs, a tactic thats never been seen used on any other mob...

Exactly, I believe both PW and AV were built to be different. I won't go discuss about PW because he is still too new. Although together, they are both set in a mind set of using a completely different method that isn't used anywhere else.

 

[Xalioniaf]

Moink, you're comparing cultural ignorance to disinterest after much research, studying, and attempting.
*whap* No!

 

[Moink]

Moink, you're comparing cultural ignorance to disinterest after much research, studying, and attempting.
*whap* No!

Im not comparing that general aspect. I comend those who have done research, study, and attempts. I'm talking about those who see no other way other then what has been mentioned.

Shunning those who have new ideas and ignoring there general purpose to solve a problem that has yet to be solved.

You can ~not~ say that every trick in the book has been done, because clearly... it has not. If it has then AV's lil pansy secret wouldve been announced.

Let those who have new ideas play against AV, if you don't want to help then STFU (Not you xali, the general consensus who are against any new ideas) and post somewhere else.

If you encourage the new ideas and thoughts then by all means argue valid points such as courtney has.