The virtue of Absolute Virtue

Hmkiroko said:
Is AV limited to each of the 2 hours once?

If so, I think only some 2-hrs are meant to be stopped (the ones that say "readied"), which are the ones that seem to be preventable (in following your theory). Only Chainspell and Manafont are the dangerous ones anyways right? I would accept Benediction as part of the fight, and as a given.
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Absolute Virtue

To answer your question without going to wiki it can use 2hours multiple times and all the 2hours can mess up a fight. A PD or Invincible at the wrong time would ruin a zerg, chainspell or manafont will wipe the alliance, benediction just sucks..., bst 2hour w/e that is can make your k.club drks turn on you.... In the end all the 2hours are dangerous in their own way and can help to wipe you.
 
Auron X said:
Absolute Virtue

To answer your question without going to wiki it can use 2hours multiple times and all the 2hours can mess up a fight. A PD or Invincible at the wrong time would ruin a zerg, chainspell or manafont will wipe the alliance, benediction just sucks..., bst 2hour w/e that is can make your k.club drks turn on you.... In the end all the 2hours are dangerous in their own way and can help to wipe you.
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Isn't the charm move he does Virelai?
 
Not limited, but if chainspell is used... meteor is weakened or hardly used or null (I point out Meteor because it seems to be only accessable to AV when Manafont or Chainspell is active)... im not saying to chainspell as he does, but there seems to be a trigger that may keep specifics locked about 2hours.... Again, he can still use any 2hr multiple times.
 
StanDarsh said:
Isn't the charm move he does Virelai?
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Well I'm pretty sure he can charm and then use the bst 2hour to keep you and I know that a k.club zerg was failed because AV charmed the k.club drk and raped his ls.
 
Xalioniaf said:
Not sure how effective zerging is, but it's probably not what SE intended.
Regardless, it's nice to see people making some progress.
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I don't really think SE intended anything to be beaten by a zerg, even though it'll work.

IMO SE intended the bosses to be beaten by different jobs adding their strength to battles. Like in other FF games. Although that doesn't mean a zerg doesn't work.
 
Spoiler:
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In before zerg nerf today.
 
LadyKiKi said:
Spoiler:
They didn't win... yet.
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I know, thats why the pic shows it at 8% and not a death shot xD

SE is still likely to nerf zerging soon though.
 
It would be easy to nerf this type of fight. Have AV use perfect dodge or invicible at x% 100% of the time. However I don't think they will ever prevent people form throwing KC at it, because so far there is like 4 attempts, 0 kills. We're not sure what special behaviour AV gets at low HP. If he does meteor 100% of the time that won't work.
 
Aha. Well, wasn't a spoiler to you since me and you both know where the pic came from. But for everyone else...

Still... maint tonight to fix other issues, NOT zerg. We'll see :p
 
pchan said:
It would be easy to nerf this type of fight. Have AV use perfect dodge or invicible at x% 100% of the time. However I don't think they will ever prevent people form throwing KC at it, because so far there is like 4 attempts, 0 kills. We're not sure what special behaviour AV gets at low HP. If he does meteor 100% of the time that won't work.
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Oh they already have a way around it. Come on, they got it to 8% you don't think they can take it down a few thousand more?

Alliance 1: Drk zerg it down as far as they can. Dia when the last man is down

Alliance 2: Finish off whats left with RNGs and BLMs going apeshit.

It will be done very soon granted SE doesn't nerf the zerg.
 
Tyrath said:
Oh they already have a way around it. Come on, they got it to 8% you don't think they can take it down a few thousand more?

Alliance 1: Drk zerg it down as far as they can. Dia when the last man is down

Alliance 2: Finish off whats left with RNGs and BLMs going apeshit.

It will be done very soon granted SE doesn't nerf the zerg.
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Like I said, you don't know what happens in the last few %. For all we know it could spam meteor if the "right thing" has not been done.

At this point it's pretty clear that you can't survive one meteor w/o the little chance of everyone resisting, which would put you in yellow/red anyway. Meteor seems to be the punishment for not doing things right.
 
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pchan said:
Like I said, you don't know what happens in the last few %. For all we know it could spam meteor if the "right thing" has not been done.

At this point it's pretty clear that you can't survive one meteor w/o the little chance of everyone resisting, which would put you in yellow/red anyway. Meteor seems to be the punishment for not doing things right.
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We do know what happens. They got it to 8% didn't they? It used on meteor and didn't spam anything.

I'm not saying this will be a 100% working strategy, it requires a lot of luck. But I think it can be done.
 
Zerging will never be even a 50% chance of success because it can always just PD or invincible or benediction and then your attempt is pretty much ruined.
 
Auron X said:
Zerging will never be even a 50% chance of success because it can always just PD or invincible or benediction and then your attempt is pretty much ruined.
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True, but now that it pops 100% of the time, that gives you many more chances at it. Where as before, it almost wasn't worth even trying cause you'd get everyone together only for it not to pop.
 
Auron X said:
Zerging will never be even a 50% chance of success because it can always just PD or invincible or benediction and then your attempt is pretty much ruined.
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You guys don't realize how fast it actually is. The meteor at 8% was the first one he used. AV also spends too much time talking shit before he starts doing stuff at pop.


Plus, I'll take a 10% chance of killing him over 0 lol
 
lol Tyrath you might want a kleenex to wipe up all that "gotta zerg it" drool :awesome:


(just messin' with you :p)
 
Tristam Green said:
lol Tyrath you might want a kleenex to wipe up all that "gotta zerg it" drool :awesome:


(just messin' with you :p)
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Hey I just want drks to give the middle finger to SE for their unbeatable mob!
 
Me too. Help me get a Kclub, and I'll flip AV off any day :dur:
 
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