The virtue of Absolute Virtue

Marajade said:
You can count on one hand the number of linkshells in the entire game who can pull off this kind of kill. Right now, this is the only way to kill him, period, especially with him depopping 2 hours after JoL is popped.

We've now proved he can in fact die, now we just need to figure out other ways to do it, so that the rest of us can have some items too.
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Its always possible to kill it, Just glitches or patches put AV back the way he was, "Unkillable". The problem with AV and possibly PW is SE WANTS you to kill it the way they had in store. Its why AV was patched with the walls and the locking 2hr glitch. They just weren't the methods SE wanted it to die, and I can see the KClub recieving a penalty of some sort or SE just ignoring it.

Like you said, not many shells have 21 DRKclubs about them and this isn't the logical way.
 
Marajade said:
You can count on one hand the number of linkshells in the entire game who can pull off this kind of kill.
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Theres a lot more than 5. Its not -that- hard to zerg him.
 
Tyrath said:
Theres a lot more than 5. Its not -that- hard to zerg him.
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Last count i made in integral we had like 7 k-club drks. And everyone else and their mother has drk with atleast ridill, m-kris or b.zaghnal.
 
So Moink, what are you leaning towards as the solution? 2HRing on Love to prevent AV 2hr, or timed matching 2HR on select AV 2HRs when engaged?

The sea shells that can't take the Zerg method should definitely try and find an alternative solution, even if it does lead to XP loss.
 
I'd imagine if you don't have enough kraken darks, you can always have the kraken darks that you do have die after zerginging and pass of the club to someone else when they raise assuming AV can be stalled for a min in between.
 
Caerloc said:
Last count i made in integral we had like 7 k-club drks. And everyone else and their mother has drk with atleast ridill, m-kris or b.zaghnal.
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Right, and we almost killed him with only 3 kclubs, couple other drks and a battalion of wars. This zerg isn't as hard to do as some people think. You just have to be lucky and not get hit with an untimely meteor ; ;


Lavi said:
I'd imagine if you don't have enough kraken darks, you can always have the kraken darks that you do have die after zerginging and pass of the club to someone else when they raise assuming AV can be stalled for a min in between.
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lol no.

The whole point of this is to kill AV before he kills you. If you get into a holding fight you're not gonna last. His regen is pretty high too.
 
Tyrath said:
lol no.

The whole point of this is to kill AV before he kills you. If you get into a holding fight you're not gonna last. His regen is pretty high too.
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That's true, but 5-6 Kraken Darks can put a huge dent into his HP. I'd imagine he'd two hour a minute into the fight killing all the darks currently engaged. However, once he two hours, you have a short period before he can use another two hour and the regen most certainly would not reverse 100% of the damage done in the time it would take you to hand off the krakens. If anything, you can let the first group wipe while another group stands off to the side and have a THF put DoT on it so it does not completely recover then flee off for 15-30 seconds.
 
Lavi said:
If anything, you can let the first group wipe while another group stands off to the side and have a THF put DoT on it so it does not completely recover then flee off for 15-30 seconds.
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It has draw in now :(

EDIT: Draw in -anywhere- I meant, different from pre-patch draw in.
 
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LadyKiKi said:
It has draw in now :(

EDIT: Draw in -anywhere- I meant, different from pre-patch draw in.
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I did forget about that. Can always have a PLD invincible while WHMs spam cure long enough for the trade off. Just need to give the DRKs long enough to trade Krakens and still have plenty of time before AV can reuse his two hour again.
 
Lavi said:
That's true, but 5-6 Kraken Darks can put a huge dent into his HP. I'd imagine he'd two hour a minute into the fight killing all the darks currently engaged. However, once he two hours, you have a short period before he can use another two hour and the regen most certainly would not reverse 100% of the damage done in the time it would take you to hand off the krakens. If anything, you can let the first group wipe while another group stands off to the side and have a THF put DoT on it so it does not completely recover then flee off for 15-30 seconds.
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Just a theory right now. Not to mention, he has other things besides a 2hr to wreck you. If you are going to zerg, you're going to full out zerg. Zerg pause zerg won't work.
 
Lavi said:
I did forget about that. Can always have a PLD invincible while WHMs spam cure long enough for the trade off. Just need to give the DRKs long enough to trade Krakens and still have plenty of time before AV can reuse his two hour again.
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And then he uses Benediction, and all the work done is gone.

This strategy is working BECAUSE its too fast for him to do ANYTHING other than use his Call Wyvern at the beginning, which seems to be fairly consistant. He locks himself up talking smack, like BV2 does, and before he can do anything to melt your face off, he's dead.
 
Stine said:
Looks like the DRKs with Kraken Clubs of our server need to unite.
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Hah, I can think of at least 2-3 Kraken Clubs that I've seen that are in the "wrong hands" ... :nyam:

Probably more floating around somewhere . . .
 
Tyrath said:
Just a theory right now. Not to mention, he has other things besides a 2hr to wreck you. If you are going to zerg, you're going to full out zerg. Zerg pause zerg won't work.
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Considering the current strategy for AV is "let it despawn", I wouldn't forgoe a small chance at a win when a a reasonable chance at a win costs 500mil. Unless, you've got some extra cash laying around you want to spot me... ;)
LadyKiKi said:
Hah, I can think of at least 2-3 Kraken Clubs that I've seen that are in the "wrong hands" ... :nyam:

Probably more floating around somewhere . . .
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Not to mention some ridills, ebodies, novios, hauteclaires, etc., etc.
 
Tymon said:
They're selling the sash and the mars ring.

Fucking greedy idiots
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I think smart guys, milk the market while you still can and get more relics/clubs!!!
 
Lavi said:
Considering the current strategy for AV is "let it despawn", I wouldn't forgoe a small chance at a win when a a reasonable chance at a win costs 500mil. Unless, you've got some extra cash laying around you want to spot me... ;)
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Wtf are you talking about? Our ls can zerg it without doing your silly "zerg, wait for it, zerg some more" strat.
 
Tyrath said:
Wtf are you talking about? Our ls can zerg it without doing your silly "zerg, wait for it, zerg some more" strat.
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why didn't they then :wink:
 
Wow, i gotta head up to sea to see that in action ^^
 
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