Thief's Knife is now Uber Common Drop

[Skaw]

Its not simply 1%. IT all depends on what drop you're after.

If you're after somethign that drops 50% of the time, it won't suddely start dropping 51% of the time. The difference will be quite more noticable then that. If you're after somethign that drops 1% of the time, it won't start dropping 2% of the time, as that would be a 100% increase of its initial drop rate.

I'd rather say it increases drop rate by X% of its initial drop rate. Say its a 0.1 modifier (10%). If it drops 50% of the time, it will now drop 55% of the time (50x1.1). If if initially drops 1% of the time, it will now still drop roughly 1% of the time since the initial drop rate is so low.

Saying the difference is 1% is, in my oppinion,rather cloudy, as you can clearly notice the drop rate of more common items like, say, Wild Onion, is much larger then 1%.

I know it's not +1% TO the drop rate. I never stated that. I've always been of mind that people can figure out that it's an additional +1% OF the drop rate. If they can't figure out percents of a percent, they shouldn't be out of middle school.

If it were +1% to the rate, I wouldn't deem the knife completely worthless. As it stands, for the sake of arguement, assume Ridill has a 5% chance of appearing. 5.05% isn't going to make a difference.

 

[Uzor]

I know it's not +1% TO the drop rate. I never stated that. I've always been of mind that people can figure out that it's an additional +1% OF the drop rate. If they can't figure out percents of a percent, they shouldn't be out of middle school.

If it were +1% to the rate, I wouldn't deem the knife completely worthless. As it stands, for the sake of arguement, assume Ridill has a 5% chance of appearing. 5.05% isn't going to make a difference.

Thing is, it can't be 1%. It have to be 10% of the drop rate if anything. Otherwise you wouldn't notice a difference unless the item drops 90% of the time. I know for a fact that the drop rate difference on more common things like, say, something that drops 50% of the time, is not 50.5% rather then 50%.

I'll make a wild guess and say its 10% increase. Thus making it a modifier of 0.1

 

[Skaw]

Well, theres an incredibly easy way to figured it out. Do my item drop parsing method mentioned earlier. It's not like it'll be difficult to amass thieves with the knife now.

 

[Uzor]

Well, theres an incredibly easy way to figured it out. Do my item drop parsing method mentioned earlier. It's not like it'll be difficult to amass thieves with the knife now.

I already have a friend who did a test on Wild Onions.

I don't remember the exact results, but I believe it was something like this on Wild Onions:

TH0: 15%
TH1: 35%
TH2: 45%
TH3: 50%
TH4: 55%

I don't remember the exact numbers as it was quite a long time ago he told me the results. Either way, you can obviously see the results are not a 1% initial increase in drop rate.

I do believe the large test on ffxionline quite a long time ago got similar results.

 

[Juvenile07]

pics or it didnt happen

 

[Intensity]

pics or it didnt happen

pics of multiple drops? over a period of time? be reasonable lol

wasn't the original question the knifes effectivness against the original cost of it? i'll solve alot of trouble and a few pages of qcdn, its worthless now and any thf item hunting without it can now be called gimp.

ofcourse the knifes going to make a difference, just in the past 20-30m for it was just unreasonable for the overal effect but now its going to be what 40-50k soon most thfs will be able to obtain it.