Things everyone who plays x job "needs"

Drewtaru said:
drk - snipers? vassago's scyth
brd and bst - monster signa
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Well for drk, vassago's wasnt really that expensive last I checked. I dont think Ive even run into a drk at that lvl who didnt have it. But do add Haubergeon/Hauberk to that list.

For brd I guess you can also add Mary's horn, cheap job, should get a couple of expensive things >.>
 
i have mixed opinions...

i see a critical spell like erase as being an essential part of being a COMPLETE whm.. now you can still be a GOOD whm and not have it, but i really feel each player should play its character to the most potential possible.

as a lvl34 nin, the biggest problem ive had with effects in XP party, is evasion down from damn bats in garlaige citadel..... this is the first area ive seen that erase could benefit so far, but it gets greater the higher levels you go i know for sure. :D
 
When you're fighting Crawlers, Sticky Thread-induced Slow can be countered with Haste, whereas Spiderweb-induced Slow cannot. It's pretty stupid and most of ya probably knew this, but it's just good to note.
 
Hmm, I only read the first post, but...

People used to make comments about me not having the Monster Signa. The conversation went like this:

Them: Blah blah you should have a signa shmaaaa gimp
Me: Okay, I'll leave, you can find another bard
Everyone Else in the party: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I love being a bard :D .

Oh, and now at level 51 I'm supposed to use earth and light staves. I've got my light, and I have to think about buying earth, but it's out of my price range right now.

I rarely missed offensive spells, and even if I did, my strategy was to cast them at the beginning of battle, do buffs, and re-cast the offensive spells if they didn't stick.

Mary's horn isn't that expensive but it's a problem for a new player. I never bought one; I'm holding out for the much cheaper (and better) Nursemaid's Harp at level 60.

Ugh...when am I going to stop editing?
Anyway, don't use the logic "well bard doesn't have to buy expensive gear like everyone else so they should get the signa even if it doesn't help that much blah blah." Sparky said it best; "Bard is a skill class, not an equipment class."
 
That's like me and Valkyrie's/Walkure Masks. I need one of either, doesn't matter which, but I have an extremely hard time getting gil...would definately be nice to have one, I've even been told once or twice "You need to have a Valkyrie's mask, DRG sucks enough as is"(I promptly left that pt) But, i know, I will never have the gil I need, especially since I need other stuff, that essentially is more important, I think, then 6 or 7 attack, such as my AF =/.

Back to yer subject, <Erase> is a good thing to have, but, I've only been on maybe 2-3 pts where the whm had it, and it didn't bother us. So, if yer only going to 37 with it, screw that spell, focus on yer blm spells. that'd be more important to me, especially since whm isn't yer main. well, that's my 2 gil
 
If you're only taking whm to 37 for a sub, don't bother getting erase. I'm certainly not getting all of the blm spells I need to sub for my whm, and most of those are only 10-20k.

That being said, I didn't get erase until my whm was about 65. It's not that I didn't want it, it's that I couldn't afford it or find people to do the bcnm. I never heard any complaints from it in my party, they seemed to understand. I've used it in some parties, but for the most part I dont need it. Sure it's good for Bio III and slow from spiders, but there are other places to level where you don't get those kind of debuffs on you. I just happened to level in those places, so not having the spell wasn't as big a deal. I'm a better whm for having the spell, but I was still a good whm without it.

I'm also kicking myself, because when I bought the spell, I had 630k on me, and Raise 3 was 600k at that time. Now, Erase is going down a bit and Raise 3 is through the roof.
 
Songi_ said:
Mary's horn isn't that expensive but it's a problem for a new player. I never bought one; I'm holding out for the much cheaper (and better) Nursemaid's Harp at level 60.

Ugh...when am I going to stop editing?
Anyway, don't use the logic "well bard doesn't have to buy expensive gear like everyone else so they should get the signa even if it doesn't help that much blah blah." Sparky said it best; "Bard is a skill class, not an equipment class."
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How would you know if you never had one? I had a friend who used to play this game as a bard. He was one of the loudest supporters of the "mary's horn is over rated" outcry. We then spent a Sunday afternoon whoopin on sheep. I got the drop after he left and gave it to him. He then couldnt stop absolutely RAVING about it. Just a thought.

That horn has a legacy too. After he quit, I gave it to the LS for BCNM's. Then the LS's ONE brd left for WoW and now the bard in my Sun static uses it.
 
Vermillion Cloak pisses me off. I don't think I'm going to get one of these unless I can craft it myself. Losing the head gear and -BP timer the austere set gives me for something I have as a natural job trait, or a RDM/BRD/Juice can give me can kiss my tiny taru ass.
 
Drewtaru said:
Well for drk, vassago's wasnt really that expensive last I checked.
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That USED to be the case.... I bought mine for 450k last week. I paid less for my Sniper's Rings than for it.

Here's the "uber" gear I have for drk (currently lvl 54, I'm gonna grow into it)

-Haubergion
-Sniper's Rings x2
-Valkyrie's Mask
-Vassago's Scythe
-Jaeger Mantle
-Winged Boots

I'm waiting to get the Assault Earrings until I need them (I have the Spike Earrings and my good lvl 55 RK set ready for when I ding 55). I haven't bought the Bomb Core yet but I have a Lightning Bow for 55 until I get it. I'll wait on Amemit's as well (might try to save for a +1.... maybe.... o_O)

Am I missing anything I'm "supposed" to have?

BTW, Erase is great at lvl 50+. I got it for my WHM when I hit 52 and it made life so much easier. I wish I could unlearn it now to help support my drk. ; ;
 
Rappa said:
Drewtaru said:
Well for drk, vassago's wasnt really that expensive last I checked.
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That USED to be the case.... I bought mine for 450k last week. I paid less for my Sniper's Rings than for it.

Here's the "uber" gear I have for drk (currently lvl 54, I'm gonna grow into it)

-Haubergion
-Sniper's Rings x2
-Valkyrie's Mask
-Vassago's Scythe
-Jaeger Mantle
-Winged Boots

I'm waiting to get the Assault Earrings until I need them (I have the Spike Earrings and my good lvl 55 RK set ready for when I ding 55). I haven't bought the Bomb Core yet but I have a Lightning Bow for 55 until I get it. I'll wait on Amemit's as well (might try to save for a +1.... maybe.... o_O)

Am I missing anything I'm "supposed" to have?

BTW, Erase is great at lvl 50+. I got it for my WHM when I hit 52 and it made life so much easier. I wish I could unlearn it now to help support my drk. ; ;
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Wow.....I remember 2 months ago I bought mine for 100k. Vasago's scythe that is. And after that Ive been absent for almost 2 months, thus still 58 >.>
 
My friend got it at 66. This was since he was felt so gimped that the blm in the party has been using erase to remove those status effects. I got it when my rdm was 69. Really mine was obtained from BC runs. My friend got it for 150k a year ago. Yes it was a big fund for both of us, but since he was a whm after all, he wanted to be a support and main healer and by missing one support spell it was hurting his motto and pride I guess.

In any case, as a blm you wouldn't be needing it. As a rdm I was always with Whm subs. I use erase more than ever now so I needed one bad. For the original poster, I would say if you have some spare time to go to BC runs for fun with your LS do so. And should erase pops up and you don't have anything you want at the current state, learn them. I still regret buying all those blm spells I never use, including StongaII (God this was a waste big time) and almost all ancient spells that I only use them for showoff...
 
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