Falsey, the things I said have absolutely no intention of pissing anyone off. And when you come back with something like that, kinda makes me laugh. I have played WoW, no not owned and played, just tried it for a while, got to level 10, and I wasn't impressed with the gameplay at all. Overall the game isn't better or worse than FFXI, just different. You want to say all these specific problems there are, but I don't care. I haven't been MPK'd, I haven't had money troubles really, sure I'd like more but I don't NEED it. I have fun in parties, and rarely do I wait more than an hour for a party because I just find other shit to do. This game had its run. I admit I would like to find a new game or just a clean version of this one without all the bs that is done, but thats not gonna happen while I still enjoy this one. You guys take shit way too seriously. Everyone that left for WoW using the arguement "I can't take this bullshit anymore, I'm gonna go play WoW where things are handed to me on a silver platter and I can reach endgame in a month" can just kiss my ass. Anything worth having is worth working for. And everything I said started out as a joke but you guys took it the wrong fuckin way and now you're all defensive about it. I'm sorry this thread got hijacked Dirge, I didn't mean for it to go past the first post. I think this all would be solved by just having Pupusa make a forum just for you WoWers to say goodbye or gloat at your newfound drug. Enjoy the addiction while it lasts, because believe me, things won't stay perfect forever and you'll be doing this all over again game after game until you just give up all together. Back to my religion analagy: you have a religion, you believe in it, you won't change it. If you're in it for the benefits, and get pissed at the rules, you change it for another religion. Then you go hey, I can do this now and still go to heaven, until you find out that doing what you used to like is a one way ticket to hell. I say we need a game that would parallel Buddhism in this analagy. Live life well, no guidlines, no set path, do not worship something you can't prove is there, just do good and good will be done for you. Only then will peace and enlightenment be attained. Sorry for all this bs.