To BoL Members

Reishu said:
Gras, the same goes for you. The flameboard isn't a good place to get things resolved, it's a good place to make enemies. Don't let deci become one of them, enemies have a way of ruining everything you've loved in the game.


I believe he's said around 200 times that he didn't want to take it to the flameboard, when someone controls the board you are trying to post in and deleats what your posting it makes you post somewhere that's unbias

I've had arguments over Rawr memebers in the past on qcdn.org and when I've felt the horse has been beaten enough I've told them I was going to lock it, and waited for thier reply before I did so, I've never thought of just deleating the whole thing, that usually shows you have something to hide.
 
That's true, and that's what i was referring to for Deci. However, he's still making the problem worse than it is, instead of finding a way to make peace.
 
This really shouldn't have been brought here FOR ANY REASON. This is personal BoL stuff that shouldn't had been brught to the public. If you wanted to inform anyone in the LS, use pms, /tell ingame, etc. This is just more fodder for the rest of the server to throw at us. Please refrain from posting anymore and resolve this PRIVATELY.
 
Unphazed said:
I've never thought of just deleating the whole thing, that usually shows you have something to hide.
Although one thread was actually deleted. Was probably for the best still, that thread was going to break the shell if it stayed.
 
X said:
This really shouldn't have been brought here FOR ANY REASON. This is personal BoL stuff that shouldn't had been brught to the public. If you wanted to inform anyone in the LS, use pms, /tell ingame, etc. This is just more fodder for the rest of the server to throw at us. Please refrain from posting anymore and resolve this PRIVATELY.
Origonally Gras posted this in the general discussion section and did not give away any of your private details. Blame Deci for not handling it better and letting lose the drama. When a leader gets heavy handed with the censorship, this is bound to happen.
 
Leaders shouldn't have anything to hide from their members if they want people to trust them.

Untrustable leaders usually get what they earn... if that includes LS problems, it can't really be avoided unless they come clean and are punished accordingly.

Pushing an issue under the rug doesn't make it disappear either. Out of sight -- out of mind, but someone can still bring it out. I suggest this get resolved in every detail now, or worse will come later.

if WYS does decide to put this under the rug, that's his business. just a friendly warning though ;)

(btw WYS, i think you do awesome.)
 
X said:
This really shouldn't have been brought here FOR ANY REASON. This is personal BoL stuff that shouldn't had been brught to the public. If you wanted to inform anyone in the LS, use pms, /tell ingame, etc. This is just more fodder for the rest of the server to throw at us. Please refrain from posting anymore and resolve this PRIVATELY.

He also did post that it was more of an announcment and that he didn't want anyone posting including deci, and if deci thought that it should continue on here all he had to do is post here and first post he did was "lmao" I THINK, I'm old and memory is going, but if he didn't want him to continue on, deci could have just not posted.

Why tell him to not continue on, he layed everything out on the table, and let everyone know his reasons for bringing it here in the first place, and his conditions for continued posting on this public forum.

Again, he tried to tell the LS on the LS forum from what I read, he was forced to bring it here, shit I wouldn't PM or /tell in game if I had to talk to more than 10 people, I would have posted on a LS forum or on one of these main boards.
 
This was an announcement of my resignation and explaination as to why it was brought to qcdn on general discussions since deci continued to delete my posts regarding that and my answer to his comment. Other particular comments such as Vang's were not deleted which does should how one sided he wanted the issue to be after his post.

If you read the first post on here, additional info was to be given to BoL mbrs if requested by them only. I originally posted on the LS forum to let people know I was leaving but deci's mouse clicker was stuck on delete it seemed (helping you out with an excuse there deci although I'm pretty sure you may be formulating a better one atm). Deci seemed to open up the topic further by wanting to discuss the details after I finally was able to post my resignation here without deletion so there it is. I stated originally if that's what he seemed to want, that's what I would do.

Its sad to see that the only way BoL mbrs can truly speak about out a disagreement with deci without him molding what he wants people to read is through qcdn. Even then, he's editing his BoL post (mind you not deleting his posts) and then trying to twist his previous actions within here since it's a neutral ground for the both of us and deleting of my posts is not possible. You have to actually confront this and not make it go away with a delete button. Again, it wouldn't have gone that far... this would have only been a resignation thread to the LS which is what I wanted but you decided to get into it after my initial post. So there you go. I'm off to work, I'll check if the issue is closed later or if deci would like to continue this.
 
Grasinthor said:
Deci forced me to post this on qcdn regarding my resignation since he decided to only delete my posts. The post started as a general resignation here and it was posted in general discussion before it was moved.

I wasn't going to go into it in detail here as my first post stated but it also stated that it could change dependent on decidence. So here it is. I can continue it if needbe. I will check back later to see if he feels he has to make up some more stuff he would like to discuss.

No one forced you to post shit here. Don't blame this on Deci, this one is all you bud.
 
Rones said:
Although one thread was actually deleted. Was probably for the best still, that thread was going to break the shell if it stayed.

>< I don't remember that one, and if I did I hope I said I was going to delete it before doing so, and that's prolly right, if I did it it wasn't anything to hide from myself, I'd just rather our forum not turn into the flameboard.
 
Alanon, had deci not only deleted my last few posts but deleted his and vangs as well, maybe it wouldn't be here. Had he not deleted my resignation, it would not be here. Censorship is one thing, wanting to make people hear only what he wants is another. Hence, he forced me to post here. No reason to delete a resignation post as well. But to all their opinions. I respect others opinions, deci didn't seem to like anyone else's opinions stated unless they were in line with his. Sorry but I have a right to submit my resignation to the LS. That's how I feel as much as you may see it differently Alanon.
 
hey, dont worry guys! without BOL the flame boards wouldnt have nearly half the populated volume of posts that it has.

keep it up! :D
 
*votes for no more drama*

Neo, how could you? you're only encouraging it!
 
This is pathetic. I just lost 10 minutes of my life reading Grasinthor's arguements over a moot point.
 
If Deci had deleted a post due to him wanting to conceal it, then this could had just been addressed ingame to the LS, or to WYS, no on QCDN. This is hilarious that you feel this was the right approach for this. Don't you think from BoL of the past that's there's been enough drama carried over? If you have a problem with Deci, don't bring the whole server into it.

Yes, I enjoy reading drama, but this is just child's play. How we handled a recruitment issue is moot to everyone else besides the LS. How you both went on about this flame here was unnecessary no matter who is right or wrong. Please end this thread now.
 
Hmkiroko said:
This is pathetic. I just lost 10 minutes of my life reading Grasinthor's arguements over a moot point.

And another minute or so posting about it.

Deci has asked me to lock this thread. If Grasinthor agrees, I'll lock it down.
 
neophytal said:
hey, dont worry guys! without BOL the flame boards wouldnt have nearly half the populated volume of posts that it has.

keep it up! :D

Rofl

Your forgetting we have peregrine ;)
 
Grasinthor, nothing you are saying is anything not everyone already knew... if you were actually part of BoL for any of the past 3 months you would know that.

BTW if you wanna phone my school your welcome too.

Art Institute of Vancouver
http://www.aiv.artinstitutes.edu/index.asp?ref=1

And heres the program Im in
http://www.aiv.artinstitutes.edu/programdegrees.asp?locid=37&pid=67&dtid=1

And here's the hours I have classes
Monday - 1pm-10pm PST
Tuesday - 8:30am-12:30pm PST & 6pm - 10pm PST
Wednesday - 1pm-10pm PST

lol... and yes this "secret forum" you keep talking about is the only one, and WYS knew about it and every other leader. He was not interested in it true, and "I" decided within a couple days that it was best not to do.

As for cashing out these points you keep bringing up... I had everything I needed from sky about a week prior and decided to cashout all my points for extra money I needed for Goldsmthing... then a couple weeks later the rule changed from static points for each item to point "lotting" like ESP was doing at the time to try and get rid of more points in the system and give people who really wanted an item a chance at outbidding someone else.

So you gonna keep bringing up arguments I keep disproving or do you have something new?
 
You forget that because his posts were being deleted, nothing was there to resolve.
 
CubsWoo said:
And another minute or so posting about it.

Deci has asked me to lock this thread. If Grasinthor agrees, I'll lock it down.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

oh that's awesome. "Deci asked me to lock this thread." oh really? cause he couldn't delete it... that there made me laugh.. that should have been posted in the "Good Times" section.

*for the record, I don't know either one of them deci or that gray guy. I'm just a lookey-talky-loo"
 
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