To BoL Members

BTW may I point out that back around this time, rules were added or changed weekly to try and define BoL's image...

Why don't you go back to your argument of me "taking advantage of the LS" maybe you can get further with that petty thing.
 
UnphaZeD said:
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

oh that's awesome. "Deci asked me to lock this thread." oh really? cause he couldn't delete it... that there made me laugh.. that should have been posted in the "Good Times" section.

*for the record, I don't know either one of them deci or that gray guy. I'm just a lookey-talky-loo"

Cubswoo is lieing fyi... when this thread was first posted and no one had replied I asked him to either delete BoL's business or move it off the flameboard because I felt it wasn't a flame and I wasn't going to respond...

I'm dissapointed Cubswoo that even a moderator would be a shit starter and not impartial to discussions.
 
Wait, you asked him to delete it? Yeah, Cubs was lying when he said you only asked him to lock it. :rolleyes: Sculli was the one that moved this to the flameboard, not Grasinthor nor Cubs.
 
It seems if LS were as concerned with confronting problems head on instead of trying to hide and suppress them, there would be a lot less drama. "Don't air our dirty laundry" seems a common first response in LS threads. It seems not having dirty laundry in the first place would be a better solution. You can't really argue that "this drama should've been kept within the LS" when you're deleting the drama from the records within your LS. On a side note, trying to have Cubs end this debate was probably the worst defense ever on a charge of deleting/suppressing debates. It's like trying to get off of a murder charge by killing the witness.
 
QCDN has a long standing history to not delete threads just because they are inconvinient to some. By allowing people to post what is on their mind, and allowing readers to form their own opinion based on the information presented, I do feel that QCDN as such is as impartial as possible.

I moved this to the Flameboard because it was bound to become one even if one would not condsider the original post as slight flame. If one doesn't want to call it a flame, it's still drama extraordinare, thus the FB is the place to be.
 
Rones said:
Wait, you asked him to delete it? Yeah, Cubs was lying when he said you only asked him to lock it. :rolleyes: Sculli was the one that moved this to the flameboard, not Grasinthor nor Cubs.

Whats your point... Cubswoo responded that he would do something about it if he logged back on to QCDN before he went to sleep... Im guessing by the time that happened it was too late and it was indeed a flame...

More fun for me I suppose.

Btw Uzor, why don't you get your own threads to troll in? You love rotating in my aura don't you.
 
decidence said:
You love rotating in my aura don't you.

This doesn't help your cause decidence.

Anything you can and do say will be used against you here. (if people don't like it that is ;))
 
Sculli said:
QCDN has a long standing history to not delete threads just because they are inconvinient to some. By allowing people to post what is on their mind, and allowing readers to form their own opinion based on the information presented, I do feel that QCDN as such is as impartial as possible.

I moved this to the Flameboard because it was bound to become one even if one would not condsider the original post as slight flame. If one doesn't want to call it a flame, it's still drama extraordinare, thus the FB is the place to be.

Its not QCDN's fault... its Grasinthor's fault for not being courteous enough to leave BoL's issues to BoL... not to post them on public forums (ie. BoL's general forums and now QCDN's forums).

I'm sure former members of every end game LS can post shit about their former shells.
 
Reishu said:
This doesn't help your cause decidence.

Anything you can and do say will be used against you here. (if people don't like it that is ;))

Uzor sticks up for people who steal 10mil gil items and associate with gilsellers... anytime I can piss him off it a chance not worth missing =P
 
It's not Grasinthor's fault somebody deleted his posts either. He just wants people to know what's going on at his end as far as I know.

He's hurt your image, but not BoL's here. And you're hurting your own image by not taking responsiblity for things that offended him.
 
I wasn't even referring to Uzor :D

I was referring to you
 
You want Grasinthor to keep his arguments within BoL but deleted his side of the argument when he tried. Surely, it's not a mystery why he took the argument here. And you tried to have it deleted here too. It doesn't sound like there's *any place* that would've been acceptable to carry on this argument. At least at QCDN, it's a fair fight. I personally would never carry on an internet debate in a court where my argument was edited/deleted. I can see why BoL would want the problem kept in BoL, but really, you brought it on yourself. Just admitting the mistake and moving on would've closed this on page one.
 
Reishu said:
Yay drama ; ;

Gras, it seems you and deci need to go your own ways. BoL isn't big enough for the two of you any more it seems. Sometimes the best thing to do is to let things drop, and perhaps they'll be forgotten.

Deci, this is between you and gras, but it seems you made some mistakes. For the sake of BoL, you might consider making up with gras.

Gras, the same goes for you. The flameboard isn't a good place to get things resolved, it's a good place to make enemies. Don't let deci become one of them, enemies have a way of ruining everything you've loved in the game.

I meant to quote this, just to point out that EVERY SINGLE THING that Grasinthor has basically accused me of happened like 4-6 months ago (and everyone knew what was going on then).. just like his issue with Lanien (which happened like a year ago). Grasinthor has no present and is stuck bringing up old issues to try and support his arguments. Please mention one thing in the past month or two to show how much I take advantage of the LS and change, or make new rules to benefit myself like you so say... there is NOTHING to be worked out...

The LS is operating AWESOME and we are doing BETTER THEN EVER...

Thanks for all the CONCERN everyone!
 
Reishu said:
It's not Grasinthor's fault somebody deleted his posts either. He just wants people to know what's going on at his end as far as I know.

He's hurt your image, but not BoL's here. And you're hurting your own image by not taking responsiblity for things that offended him.

Ok as long as its not BoL's image, I'm fine... I could care less about my image... which I think is why people love to flame me so much... everyone is jealous that I don't give a shit and everyone else knows they would be pissed off in my position that their image was tarnished.

Anyways if this is all about me and not about BoL, I'm done with this flame since defending only myself is a waste of time.

Grasinthor, you may have the last word if you like now... since I know you want it oh so bad.

For anyone who actually makes it this far in this absolutely pointless thread (seeing how the information in it is so damn old), I posted my defense for the shell and myself... this thread was never needed whether I deleted Grasinthor off the face of the earth or not.
 
neophytal said:
hey, dont worry guys! without BOL the flame boards wouldnt have nearly half the populated volume of posts that it has.

keep it up! :D

Neo.. i <3 you! haha
long time no see
 
It seems Gras needs to let go of things then.

Btw Decidence, I don't follow people well enough to know the dirt. I don't know the details, but what i do know is that you most likely:
1) Deleted Gras' resignation topic in the BoL forums.
2) Deleted another of Gras' resignation topics in the BoL forums
3) Asked Cubswoo to delete this topic on the QCDN forums.

If I was the victim, i'd call foul too. That's his beef with you (i think) right now. Please resolve it.

I'm not concerned for BoL (it's fine), or anyone involved. I'm concerned that there's unfairness at play here.

(btw decidence, nice try to try to get the topic derailed.)
 
Odon said:
Rofl

Your forgetting we have peregrine ;)

hmmm yes this is true... damnit! lol!


CubsWoo said:
And another minute or so posting about it.

Deci has asked me to lock this thread. If Grasinthor agrees, I'll lock it down.

maybe the powertrip statement -was- on target, haha

Moch said:
Neo.. i <3 you! haha
long time no see

mochhh what it is bro :D

decidence said:
Ok as long as its not BoL's image, I'm fine... I could care less about my image...

as a supposed leader of a shell, this is the most retarded statement i could read that one would post.

a leader is supposed to be a representative and MODEL of the LS, and one that reflects badly will also reflect badly on the linkshell.

you saying that is like peregrine saying "i dont care what people think of me, only my omg uber elite dynamis linkshell"
 
I really didn't want to put my input on this as I was hoping that this woul just be stopped or even yes, LOCKED. But since people love linkshell drama, expecially endgame shells, I'll make this short and sweet.

-To Gras: You verbally assaulted a good guy that you had a problem with 1 YEAR AGO! All you had to say is I would not recommend him. That's it. You were being an ass and that's something I wouldn't want a new recruit to be assaulted with. Totally out of context expecially after 3 months of no activity in the linkshell. Bringing up issues from 6-12 months ago was useless and things change.

Addressing your resignation, you could have put that in BoL General Discussion. I don't know why Deci had deleted it, but that's unimportant to me right now. Your rude attitude that was portaited on the recruitment was truly appalling, expecially since you had such bitterness from over 1 year ago.

-To Deci: I understand why you did what you did with the threads, but just deleting posts and changing posts can look suspicious. Your intentions were to stop more verbal abuse to Lanien and to avoid drama, which I do understand, but it would appear you are hiding something that could be a turning point in an arguement.

Deleting the resignation thread also leads to more suspiction as he was reveiling something you didn't want know? Or was it just a potential flame? Understand why people think your trying to conceal something... whatever it may be.


-to Both Personally, I can understand the frustration and confusion about this whole situation, but lets just say you disagree and drop it ok?
 
random hero said:
deci and gras have too much free time i think

{Free time} {Can I have it?}
 
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