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Hey fellow ninja buddies, (assassins?)! :ph34r:

This is another thread about end-game ninja gear. Wait! Don't leave! :nono:

I'm currently only level 50, but already looking at investing in gear. I've read quite a few threads elsewhere and am fully aware most ninja gear is situational and it's good to have a few sets with you at all times. My question is, what gear and/or weapons have you seen ninjas invest in that they really don't need at all? It's more a question of space rather than money, so I don't care about value but more about usefulness. State the item and tell me why it's pointless to have, simple!

Oh btw, my in-game name is Ninten, (that should cover this forum's rules). :biggrin:

I've played on Ragnarok server for two years, so you won't see me around. Don't hate, I really love this community so far! :wink:
 
outside of o.kote, snipers, emp pin, fuma, velocity earring, (peacock charm lol), justu Gi, there isnt much out of the norm that would be worth getting.

Luisant Brayettes and Luisant Haubert maybe
 
ds083roadkill said:
outside of o.kote, snipers, emp pin, fuma, velocity earring, (peacock charm lol), justu Gi, there isnt much out of the norm that would be worth getting.

Luisant Brayettes and Luisant Haubert maybe
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His question was about endgame gear? (and luisant is also pretty lame to get no matter what job you are)

But as far as endgame goes its basically the r/ex god drops (i.e. b.haidate, osode, etc) and lots of emnity plus gear (i.e. arahats/+1). Depending on how serious you are, lots of haste+% gear and a drk sub are pretty nifty to have too.
 
The hq -% damage gear, earth staff, jelly ring, drk sub done, as much haste/dual weild gear. alot of +str gear
all needed dont care about inv space you can have alot
p and nin tools =D
 
Kire said:
The hq -% damage gear, earth staff, jelly ring, drk sub done, as much haste/dual weild gear. alot of +str gear
all needed dont care about inv space you can have alot
p and nin tools =D
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Am I missing something here?

NIN/DRK?
 
Moriki said:
Am I missing something here?

NIN/DRK?
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I had that same question awhile ago so i asked zoolander about it.


With haste gears and march and haste, Stun recast gets down to 24 seconds or so, which is more often than provoke. Stun from /drk also lands on almost all HNMs that can be stunned. Sleep, Bind, and absorb-mnd/vit/chr are all used as well for hate. Although stun doesnt seem like it gets alot of hate, it really does. Add in alot of enmity gear and spam it ever 24 seconds, and its a ton of hate.

Also, /drk gives souleater and weapon bash. Just using SE + weapon bash is great for hate, and on somthing like wyrms that have Horrird Roar (hate reset), you use souleater and melee a bit and you get hate back before souleater has worn off.

/drk is mainly superior for fights where you are tanking primarily with an earth staff and cannot melee for hate. It is by far better than /war on somthing like wyrms, where stun is a HUGE help on those fights and it has infinitely more hate potential than war does, which only offers you provoke and defender. And defender aint gunna help much since you A. shouldnt be getting hit and B Tiamat hits for 500+ dmg, defender aint gunna do shit to stop her attacks.

I use it on Tiamat, Jormungand, Cerberus, Kirin (yes kited, it isnt hard to do) and anything else I'd be using an E. Staff on.


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Makelith said:
I had that same question awhile ago so i asked zoolander about it.


With haste gears and march and haste, Stun recast gets down to 24 seconds or so, which is more often than provoke. Stun from /drk also lands on almost all HNMs that can be stunned. Sleep, Bind, and absorb-mnd/vit/chr are all used as well for hate. Although stun doesnt seem like it gets alot of hate, it really does. Add in alot of enmity gear and spam it ever 24 seconds, and its a ton of hate.

Also, /drk gives souleater and weapon bash. Just using SE + weapon bash is great for hate, and on somthing like wyrms that have Horrird Roar (hate reset), you use souleater and melee a bit and you get hate back before souleater has worn off.

/drk is mainly superior for fights where you are tanking primarily with an earth staff and cannot melee for hate. It is by far better than /war on somthing like wyrms, where stun is a HUGE help on those fights and it has infinitely more hate potential than war does, which only offers you provoke and defender. And defender aint gunna help much since you A. shouldnt be getting hit and B Tiamat hits for 500+ dmg, defender aint gunna do shit to stop her attacks.

I use it on Tiamat, Jormungand, Cerberus, Kirin (yes kited, it isnt hard to do) and anything else I'd be using an E. Staff on.


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Ace, thanks for explaining.
 
I know alot of NIN like to have Haubergeon for WS, or consistently (is that the right word?) us Byrnie if they don't really need the 10 eva/acc from SH all that much...
 
BRD/NIN>PLD/WAR>NIN/DRK>WAR/NIN>NIN/WAR

brd has highest hate tools then pld and so on so 4th
also /drk helps on uts:ishi :D
 
Maybe I'm missing something... but NIN use Weapon Bash? Toss on a Great Katana just to use it lossing all TP you gained. Doesn't make any sence to me.
 
Calv/Godofdeath said:
Maybe I'm missing something... but NIN use Weapon Bash? Toss on a Great Katana just to use it lossing all TP you gained. Doesn't make any sence to me.
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Weapon bash at start first, and main point of /drk is stun souleater and attack+
 
Would you just use Souleater to gain the hate then cancel it out yourself? NIN doesn't have the HP to hit multiple times with all that +attack, espically with all the +haste%, your life would drop like crazy and WHM would have to cure like crazy maybe canceling out any hate you tried to just gain.
 
Calv/Godofdeath said:
Maybe I'm missing something... but NIN use Weapon Bash? Toss on a Great Katana just to use it lossing all TP you gained. Doesn't make any sence to me.
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Why you would use a Great Katana over an Earth Staff is beyond me.
 
Legomyeggo said:
Why you would use a Great Katana over an Earth Staff is beyond me.
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Tachi: Enpi dood. Pop a souleater with that too and ownage.






really hope you detect the sarcasm...
 
Lots of good info, guys! I've never heard about the /drk thing before. Would it still be feasable with me being a taru? I've heard people say being a taru will hurt later on tanking and kiting HNM's, is there a lot of truth in that?

Anyway, my original question was more of what gear do I NOT need in end-game that you see people carrying around with them? Sixty spaces goes fast, as you know. Thanks for the feedback!

Jesse :cool:
 
Kire said:
BRD/NIN>PLD/WAR>NIN/DRK>WAR/NIN>NIN/WAR

brd has highest hate tools then pld and so on so 4th
also /drk helps on uts:ishi :D
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nin/brd owns pld/war.
 
Calv/Godofdeath said:
Would you just use Souleater to gain the hate then cancel it out yourself? NIN doesn't have the HP to hit multiple times with all that +attack, espically with all the +haste%, your life would drop like crazy and WHM would have to cure like crazy maybe canceling out any hate you tried to just gain.
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Depends what you are fighting, how your hate level is, how much support you have. /drk should only be on things that you use an earth staff though. Its a great hate gainer just to use Souleater + Weapon Bash, and since wyrms have the evasion of a house, alot of the staff melee hits will hit anyway for 60ish dmg (with my 10 staff skill anyway). Its really amazing though for when you get horrid roared and lose a ton of hate. Pop souleater, and equip one or two katanas and you will get hate back really fast.

NIN/BRD necro? Meh, maybe a little higher on the hate scale than nin/drk over time, and even if it is, /brd offers nothing else. No stun ever 24ish seconds, no souleater for instant hate and to suppliment damage. And why isn't pld/nin on that list? In most cases it has the same if not better hate than a pld/war.
 
Zoolander said:
NIN/BRD necro? Meh, maybe a little higher on the hate scale than nin/drk over time, and even if it is, /brd offers nothing else.
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If you think it's just "a little higher", then obviously, you have never tried it.

You can get stun recast down to... what, ~23 seconds at haste cap?
Mazurka can be worked down to 12 seconds. Mazurka in itself offers slightly(?) if not a lot more hate than stun, and when you can basically spam it every 12 seconds... you'd make it very very very hard to get hate shifted short of an invincible (and even that is arguable)
 
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