Uber Ninjas Wanted

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Good conversation people, but my original question has still not been answered. I know there is a lot of gear a ninja is expected to carry around. The question is, what gear is just pointless to have? Give a reason. Don't just say, "it sucks". Tell us why. Thanks!

Jesse :cool:
 
Jesse said:
Good conversation people, but my original question has still not been answered. I know there is a lot of gear a ninja is expected to carry around. The question is, what gear is just pointless to have? Give a reason. Don't just say, "it sucks". Tell us why. Thanks!

Jesse :cool:

None of it is really pointless is the reason it is so hard to get an answer to your question. My ninja was only in 60 tier when I stopped so I might not be able to answer you as well as some of the other ninjas. It is easier to answer you in recommending gear to you rather than in reverse.

If you are a end-game meriting ninja you will never need an earth staff. If you are only using your ninja via farming you would never need an earth staff.

However, it is more than obvious from reading what some of these other people have mentioned that you will obviously need an earth staff to tank "big things". Countless pieces of gear of which you might only use for one type of fight and possibly be crippled without it.

I think the better route for your question is to mention what end-game activities that you wish to participate in and ask what gear set-ups are recommended for those activities and go from there. Also some pieces of gear you might only use temporarily until you can get something better.

Currently it is even argued as to whether or not a SH is even nessessary. Some say AF Body is better.. I prefered SH. Also you might note that it is even argued as to whether or not Osode is even valuable to a Ninja. Some things you will only discover via trial and error and playing around with different gear builds or via the suggestions of others. However, understand one thing and that is not every suggestion is completely accurate.
 
I think the better route for your question is to mention what end-game activities that you wish to participate in and ask what gear set-ups are recommended for those activities and go from there.

Okay, that's fair. What I want to do is provide the most support for my linkshell by being what they expect a ninja to be. I know this will vary depending on situation and what other tanks are available. Being a taru, I'm afraid I'll be discriminated against and not asked to tank or kite at end-game.

Right now, at level 50, I have an ATT/ACC build that works well for me. I rarely lose hate, but burn a lot of shihei. I make my own shihei, so I'm not worried about that. In a few levels, I'll start focusing on a duel wield/haste build. Something about nonstop attacking is appealing to me. I'm not worried about EVA gear except what comes with Pin/O-hat and SH+1. I've been using sole sushi for a while now, too.

So, if I'm not asked to tank or kite I guess a DW/haste build would be sufficiant most of the time. I'll just swap in +STR and +DEX for WS and whatnot.

I've been told to merit in this order: Katana>Crits>EVA>STR

Any suggestions are welcome.

Jesse :cool:
 
Jesse said:
I've been told to merit in this order: Katana>Crits>EVA>STRJesse :cool:

For almost any melee job crits, should come before everything else.
 
Makelith said:
For almost any melee job crits, should come before everything else.

you will wield a bigger result meriting your weapon (acc) over crits at first. crits are very important once you have enough acc as it becomes diminishing returns, however.

note: i did merit crits to cap after putting 1-2 merits into h2h and katana.
 
neophytal said:
you will wield a bigger result meriting your weapon (acc) over crits at first. crits are very important once you have enough acc as it becomes diminishing returns, however.

note: i did merit crits to cap after putting 1-2 merits into h2h and katana.

I did crits first as Drk since i didnt really need the extra acc right away since i have the A+ skill in scythe. I was pretty sure Nin had A+ in katana so i suggested crits first.
 
Jesse said:
(assassins?)


according to Relic Thf are the assassins you best watch your back or I might strike!=)
 
Wait... was your name DigitalBackSpin on ragnarok? Wonder if you ever remember seeing a "Miasma" around. That was me.

Now NIN75 on Quetz here. :)
 
Langly said:
Wait... was your name DigitalBackSpin on ragnarok? Wonder if you ever remember seeing a "Miasma" around. That was me.

Now NIN75 on Quetz here. :)
with a gimp sj of 36 ^^;
 
Fuck, ya caught me. Wonder if anyone's noticed in game yet. :o
 
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LS: NoizyTribe
Main: NIN/75
Sub: WAR/36
 
Sometimes I get that 7 and 6 mixed up. If only they wouldn't have put them next to each other on the keyboard. I'd be set.
 
k I'll give you a few different setups since this thread seems to be mostly derailed, along with some things you should have regardless of what you do >.>

You're going to have a lot of equip change macros to put in haste gear while casting, then back to enmity/damage reduction gear.

HNM:
Main - Earth Staff
Ranged - Nokizaru Shuriken is best, Bibiki Seashell if you can't get one
Head - Arhat's Jinpachi/+1
Neck - Harmonia's Torque
Ear1 - Eris' Earring/+1
Ear2 - Eris' Earring/+2
Body - Arhat's Gi/+1
Hands - Seiryu's Kote
Rings - Any combination of: lolSattva, Jelly, BQR, Merman's Ring (Magic Defense macro), Mermaid's Ring. Might be forgetting something. It depends on the situation. You don't want to be using BQR and Jelly Ring when Tiamat's Flying for instance, you'd use the Merman's.
Back - High Breath Mantle > Resentment Cape > Gigant Mantle
Waist - Warwolf Belt is always good.
Legs - I use Yasha Hakama, you could get away with Haidate full time though.
Feet - I use Yasha Sune-Ate, you could get away with Fuma Sune-Ate full time though.

Mainly want to get to 100% as quick as possible while still doing good DPS.

EXP:
Main - Senjuinrikio or Unji (unsho off-hand only)
Sub - Fudo, Unji, or Unsho.
Ranged - Bomb Core
Head - Walahra Turban for TP, Shura Zunari Kabuto for WS.
Neck - Peacock Charm = Hope Torque (not sure on these, don't have either) > Chivalrous Chain > Royal Guard's Collar for TP, Breeze Gorget for WS.
Ear1 - Suppanomimi for TP, Triumph > Merman's for WS.
Ear2 - Brutal Earring
Body - Koga Chainmail, Ninja Chainmail/+1, Haubergeon/+1, matter of preferance. Haubergeon/+1 or Kirin's Osode for WS.
Hands - Dusk Gloves for TP, Bandomusha/Ochiudo's Kote or Ninja Tekko +1 for WS.
Ring1 - Sniper's or Rajas for TP, Flame or Rajas for WS.
Ring2 - Sniper's for TP, Flame for WS.
Back - Forager's Mantle > Amemet Mantle +1
Waist - Speed Belt > Swift Belt > Life Belt for TP, Warwolf Belt for WS.
Legs - Byakko's Haidate (full time) > Koga Hakama for TP, Royal Knight's Breeches for WS.
Feet - Fuma Sune-Ate for TP, Rutter Sabatons for WS.

I don't solo much so take this next part with a grain of salt.

Solo:
Main - Senjuinrikio or Unji (unsho off-hand only)
Sub - Fudo, Unji, Unsho, or Shiranui.
Ranged - Ungur Boomerang
Head - Walahra Turban or Optical Hat for TP, Shura Zunari Kabuto for WS.
Neck - Evasion Torque, Breeze Gorget for WS.
Ear1 - Suppanomimi for TP, Triumph > Merman's for WS.
Ear2 - Brutal Earring or Elusive Earring.
Body - Scorpion Harness/+1 for TP, Haubergeon/+1 or Kirin's Osode for WS.
Hands - Seiryu's Kote > Rasetsu Tekko > Dusk Gloves for TP, Bandomusha/Ochiudo's Kote or Ninja Tekko +1 for WS.
Ring1 - Sniper's or Rajas for TP or AGI Rings if you get hit too much or too hard, Flame or Rajas for WS.
Ring2 - Sniper's for TP or AGI Rings if you get hit too much or too hard, Flame for WS.
Back - Boxer's Mantle > Corse Cape for TP, Forager's or Amemet +1 for WS
Waist - Scouter's Rope for TP, Warwolf Belt for WS.
Legs - Byakko's Haidate (full time) > Koga Hakama for TP, Royal Knight's Breeches for WS.
Feet - Fuma Sune-Ate for TP, Rutter Sabatons for WS.

Haste is a Ninja's Lifeforce. These are some of the items you should have for all the sets, if for nothing other than Utsusemi macros.

Haste:
Head - Walahra Turban > Panther Mask +1
Hands - Dusk Gloves
Waist - Speed Belt > Swift Belt
Legs - Byakko's Haidate
Feet - Fuma Sune-Ate

Any questions either PM me or post a reply.
 
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