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God I am hoping they'll do the scythe boost thing this time XD
 
If abjs. are added or at least an alternative method, I highly doubt it will be in this coming update. Even if they do by some chance add an alternative (I'm not holding my breath even though I have been hoping for it) now or in the future, it's probably not going to be all that great a method. It has to be a difficult method to say the least otherwise it makes the time spent camping the three kings worthless. If anything, it'll probably just make an alternative for those who already spend hours camping kings while the majority of players just won't have the time available or the patience to do it.
 
I wish they would make the ABJ drop in the REspective Kings KS99


i mean think about it It makes sense to do that, getting 99 KS SEals takes a damn long time.. I think that it would be a very Viable Alternative..

let KB keep the defending ring and other shit he drops, but Abjs should be anyone that can Beat the kings not just anyone that has the time to camp and the best bot to claim with
 
Lavi said:
If abjs. are added or at least an alternative method, I highly doubt it will be in this coming update. Even if they do by some chance add an alternative (I'm not holding my breath even though I have been hoping for it) now or in the future, it's probably not going to be all that great a method. It has to be a difficult method to say the least otherwise it makes the time spent camping the three kings worthless. If anything, it'll probably just make an alternative for those who already spend hours camping kings while the majority of players just won't have the time available or the patience to do it.
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Behemoth would still drop the behemoth tongue, pixie earring and defending ring

Fafnir would still drop ridill and black belt item

So people would still camp them
 
How about another rank for assaults that drops ??? abjurations and allows up to 18 people? Or 18 person ISNM's?
 
SE is still due to make Blms more appealing to high level normal parties. Of course, there's no longer such a thing. I'd be happy if they just added more manaburn camps with mobs that have 100% physical resistance.
 
Tagrineth said:
You guys forget it was Flamey that said job adjustments aren't good. Thieves have been cut down repeatedly.

But I think he forgot the MASSIVE dagger update. =)
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ahh yes. who could forget that dagger update. i remember that day. logging in.. beating the crap outta stuff with my shiney new buffed daggers...

and lol'ing at the prices

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ahhh. the memories. thems be good times.
 
I say make the level 75 BP's actually worth there while in MP cost... 182 MP for something does does not even half the damage for something cheaper?
 
even if salvage has its own timer like dynamis and limbus, SE will not hesitate add it! think about it. the game is all about JPs. When JP got their full af2 and where bored about dynamis they invent limbus. Wnen JP have all limbus they invent dreamland. When jp have all dreamland items they invent assault. now JP have everything and might leave game so they need to add new stuffs for them.
 
Skaw said:
hey guys how bout that monk jse, sweet stuff huh?
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MNK JSE would be good but how much is it needed?
MNK has white, purple, brown and black belt.
But some JSE would kick ass!
 
Way to miss the obvious satire, and way to be a retard to bring up belts. But hey, DRK had Demon's Harness and Vampire Cloak well before Plastron and it's associated peices were added. WHM had an entire JSE already, but were given Blessed. BLM had Black Cloak, then given Igqira. SAM had Hara-Ate before Hachiman! I mean, if Belts count as a full JSE set, so do those single slot items I listed B)B)B)B)B)

I mean shit, just flesh out the rest of the Arakan Samue in to 4 more pieces, and retexture the Samue.
 
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Claudhert said:
I wish they would make the ABJ drop in the REspective Kings KS99


i mean think about it It makes sense to do that, getting 99 KS SEals takes a damn long time.. I think that it would be a very Viable Alternative..

let KB keep the defending ring and other shit he drops, but Abjs should be anyone that can Beat the kings not just anyone that has the time to camp and the best bot to claim with
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not to flame but that is just a retarded idea.

that would just make all the rare items "commonplace" among everyone with kindred seals...

yeah, no thanks
 
neophytal said:
not to flame but that is just a retarded idea.

that would just make all the rare items "commonplace" among everyone with kindred seals...

yeah, no thanks
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That's why I don't think it should be done through kindred seals... it have to be something that's hard to obtain, like Bahamut #2 fight orb, and make the chance that abjuration drops rather small, aswell. We'd all hate for everyone to run around in full abjuration sets.
 
neophytal said:
not to flame but that is just a retarded idea.

that would just make all the rare items "commonplace" among everyone with kindred seals...

yeah, no thanks
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Sort of like when everyone 75 complained about the exp cap nerf when SE changed it? Now everyone and their sister has level 75 at least once, most 2-5 times. Hate to tell you, even if everyone in DA put up a huge stink about it, nothing would stop them. If SE did introduce something, it'll either be significantly easier to obtain or difficult much like the current method with no middle ground. I'm putting my money on easier. I don't really mean to say easier, as I do commonplace. It'll be difficult fights to begin with, but after a good amount of time when the average player is more experienced and strategies are common knowledge, the methods will become easier.

I remember some time ago, there was some thought that SE would add abjurations to KS99, but in the following update, it was neglected and the rumor died. I have no idea where or how it started, but as far as what Neo said, it's highly unlikely they would consider it. The fights are rather easy for a lot of the older shells and most people have at least a stack of 99 seals sitting around, some have 2-3 stacks. With that many seals laying around, you'd basically inundate the entire server with abjurations and I don't see that happening. I do see them adding an easier method, but it'll have to be time consuming otherwise it's pointless.
 
well what about Abjs droping in KS198? :P 99+99 Lotsa KS seals going poof
 
It'd be a lot simpler to make the KS99 fights into, y'know, actually difficult fights? Like a Behemoth that knows how stunga-Meteor works great at killing people, or a Turtle that... uh... does something dangerous.

I mean hard for established HNM LS's, not for the average level 75 social shell.
 
If they weren't a sure thing, people wouldn't do them and would forgo their seals for something that was guarenteed (or pretty much guarenteed) to win, even if the rewards were less.

That's just my opinion though.
 
Hmkiroko said:
If they weren't a sure thing, people wouldn't do them and would forgo their seals for something that was guarenteed (or pretty much guarenteed) to win, even if the rewards were less.

That's just my opinion though.
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Which is the general idea, actually.

Using SE's logic, they still want people to do kings as much as they used to. But to make the players happy, they'll add something that -can- be beaten, but you don't really want to do it unless you've got no other options. Just like the kings are, they're easy to kill if you claim, but what are the chances of claiming? Certainly not garunteed, even with the best bot in the world.
 
Mai Ikari said:
It'd be a lot simpler to make the KS99 fights into, y'know, actually difficult fights? Like a Behemoth that knows how stunga-Meteor works great at killing people, or a Turtle that... uh... does something dangerous.

I mean hard for established HNM LS's, not for the average level 75 social shell.
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The only problem with that is the current drops from those KS99 would then be changed. Suddenly, you've got an easy KS99 and then it becomes incredibly difficult, the drops that are now available will be impossible to obtain or very expensive. I don't think that is SE's intentions, they have been making things cheaper and easier to obtain, not the other way around.

Hmkiroko said:
If they weren't a sure thing, people wouldn't do them and would forgo their seals for something that was guarenteed (or pretty much guarenteed) to win, even if the rewards were less.

That's just my opinion though.
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I am confused by this a little, are you calling the three kings a sure thing? And you're quite mistaken. Take the PCC BCNM, it has a horrible drop rate, but the reward is covetted by everyone. People are constantly doing that BC even now, more than a year after the PCC was added. There is no reason to think that people wouldn't be willing to forgoe a ton of seals for a drop that is very rare especially when it's one of the best items in the game and hardest to obtain via the current standard methods. Even if the BC was incredibly difficult, people would still be willing to do it just because they can do it on their own terms and not on random terms of a 3 hour camp.

I actually don't think they will ever add it to the KS99 fight. If anything, SE will make it like the uncapped Ouryu fight or Bahamnut fight or possibly even add a third type beastmen/kindred seal to the game only obtainable via certain mobs. It has to be something new or relatively unused (sea perhaps, but I don't see that happening).
 
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