Vang...

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lol that was insane.....all I have to ask is....
why? =P
 
Meh, I was bored out of my skull in Windy last night synthing Heko Obi's when I decided to bug Tiya for 25 minutes. (Which T just loves btw im sure)

Most of that convo stems from the Rolanberry fields bazaar topic in General Discussion and how its getting real old hearing people talk about making gilzzzzz and "How do u make teh gilzz vang?" or how its unfair for them and they want to nerf everything that doesn't cater to their needs.

The rest of it is just me being a retard and about the new rumor of me being a gil SELLER.... :roll: This is a new one to me, as it is usally the buyer accusations. I don't recall the last time I saw a DRG out in Zi'Tah with Strider Boots :shock:

Oh well whatever..... /em brushes his shoulders off.
 
Lol, you want to talk about self interest. Not unfair as the main person arguing with you to take your posted conversation as a personal insult. Your standards are so ridiculously high you constantly whine about other players being inadequite (sure I do it too) yet you turn around and say it's whining to try to point out in a pure terms of logistics where the game could do a better job.
But alas only poor n00bs must disagree with your thoughts about economics, so apparently I don't have enough Vermillion Cloaks to have an opinion? Eh whatever. I didn"t want to resort to calling you a snob or an elitist as I always found it such a pompous insult, but if no standards are high enough but your own I guess that's where we're at.

/sigh

I officially am not going to bother trying to talk with you two anymore.
 
See, you make way too many assumptions. Such as me wanting to control NM's for myself. Such as me lying when I say how much gil I've spent. Such as me lying when I say I have other great moneymakers than NM's.

Such as me holding the same standards for everyone else, that I hold for myself.

I didn't say everyone needs to have gear as good as my own. I said I need to have the best gear I can have. I don't expect everyone to have the best. But I do want them to have good gear, so they aren't wasting my time when I pt with them.
 
Firestreak said:
I officially am not going to bother trying to talk with you two anymore.

I forgot to mention that I'm glad you're finally giving up. You make a point, it's countered, you change the subject. I make a point, you ignore it, and change the subject. I try to focus on one thing, you on the other hand, are all over the place with your posts. I was starting to get a headache.
 
I'm "all over the place with my posts" because I'm talking with 2 people at once.
I "change the issue" by responding to your response. It's called a debate. If I kept staying on the exact same point I did the first post all I'd be doing is repeating myself. All my posts were towards the same subject, as to why I believe the different to NMs would be economically better. You countered with how the economy as it is today is workable. I countered with why I believe the money system is not enjoyable enough as this is a game we are playing. You countered by listing off all your uber l33t items. I said I don't think all are needed. We got into a debate. I fail to see where any headache can be equated to me unless you simply think you're so smart all your opponents should just admit they're right because you have valid points despite the fact they do too?
 
Oh yes I forget to throw in you mentioned everyone without as good gear as you in every slot is a stupid leeching exp whore. It was just so hard for me not to "jump around" to that subject. What points you made I didn't argue against or validate I'd love to hear. There are plenty of mine you two ignored.
 
^^ u guys are all crazy, and I can vouch that Vang is not a bad guy, just an opionated one!

he has now helped me a couple of times....so he is okay in my book...now i gotta make him a character sig tho lol would a-hole be a good thing to put on it hehe
 
Firestreak said:
I forget to throw in you mentioned everyone without as good gear as you in every slot is a stupid leeching exp whore.

I'd love to see that quote, please.

Hey guess what, you completely ignored my point about you jumping to conclusions again! {Good Job!} The gear was brought up when you pointed out that BLM's can't spend that much, because you didn't, so obviously it's not possible.

You were on NM's one second, then HNM's, then saying they're the only moneymaker, then saying that there's no good moneymakers, then saying that there's no good moneymakers for you, then criticizing my gear, then saying that I want a monopoly over NM's, then saying that less dedicated players should be able to go the 'harder' (how is this harder?) route of forcing something to pop, then saying that you like BCNM's, then saying you only like KSBCNM's. All this in no specific order. It's amazing I was able to follow it at all.

By the way, I thought you were done?
 
TiyaKelth said:
Firestreak said:
I forget to throw in you mentioned everyone without as good gear as you in every slot is a stupid leeching exp whore.

I'd love to see that quote, please.

Hey guess what, you completely ignored my point about you jumping to conclusions again! {Good Job!} The gear was brought up when you pointed out that BLM's can't spend that much, because you didn't, so obviously it's not possible.

You were on NM's one second, then HNM's, then saying they're the only moneymaker, then saying that there's no good moneymakers, then saying that there's no good moneymakers for you, then criticizing my gear, then saying that I want a monopoly over NM's, then saying that less dedicated players should be able to go the 'harder' (how is this harder?) route of forcing something to pop, then saying that you like BCNM's, then saying you only like KSBCNM's. All this in no specific order. It's amazing I was able to follow it at all.


OMFG Firestr3ak joo n00b u just got pwnd!!!!!!11111 rofl ggpo
By the way, I thought you were done?
 
That gear issue was a confusion of wording, and I conceded it and it was agreed that you could have spent 20 mill in a day then but not now. But let's be accurate. It all started from when you asked me
"You ever spent nearly 20mil in one day on gear? I have. " That was your side-argument not mine.

I never once said HNM or NM. I talked about them both, and I called then both NM. HNM is a type of NM is it not? The issue was about claiming and my points are equally valid or invalid for both. As to the seals, that conversation was entirely with flaruwaru, so I don't really see how I'm jumping around? I was talking with someone else not you. And I did in fact say seals, not "Beastman Seals" if you want to dig at it. And my response was joking, hence the... =p

As for the quote, it's possible it was Vang who said it. I can't find it quickly and I've got some work to do for now but I do remember reading it(though it's possible I am mixing it with something said in another topic). But yes I do distinctly remember reading it. There were however a lot of edits going on by both sides as it was not the flameboard. I'll see if I can turn it up later.
 
Buputhetaru said:
^^ u guys are all crazy, and I can vouch that Vang is not a bad guy, just an opionated one!

he has now helped me a couple of times....so he is okay in my book...now i gotta make him a character sig tho lol would a-hole be a good thing to put on it hehe
well seeing as how he is the leader of your linkshell... I'm going to now choke down 2 pounds of salt, and see if I can still read that with a straight face :roll:
 
Yoshindor said:
Buputhetaru said:
^^ u guys are all crazy, and I can vouch that Vang is not a bad guy, just an opionated one!

he has now helped me a couple of times....so he is okay in my book...now i gotta make him a character sig tho lol would a-hole be a good thing to put on it hehe
well seeing as how he is the leader of your linkshell... I'm going to now choke down 2 pounds of salt, and see if I can still read that with a straight face :roll:


I agree...
 
vang said:
Yoshindor said:
Buputhetaru said:
^^ u guys are all crazy, and I can vouch that Vang is not a bad guy, just an opionated one!

he has now helped me a couple of times....so he is okay in my book...now i gotta make him a character sig tho lol would a-hole be a good thing to put on it hehe
well seeing as how he is the leader of your linkshell... I'm going to now choke down 2 pounds of salt, and see if I can still read that with a straight face :roll:


I agree...
Yoshindor said:
well as I also would normaly share this sentimate for him, I am now some what neutral as to how I feel about him.... ~_~ never thought I would say that but anyway yesterday he surprised the fuck out of me, when I was crafting some beetle arrows he was makeing choco fletchings came up gave me a bunch, I put them to good use, made 7 stacks of beetle quivers and got woodworking to 39. Well as he has been a terd in the past all players have there good sides even Vang.. so I geuss you have to know someone well before you can judge them even if they are anoying and abrasive there is lots that people do that we never see, so it's hard to judge by just the actions we see. Granted in the case of some the actions are overwhelmingly negitive. it is best to give the benifit of the doubt because they may just surprise you.
Um I agree :roll:
 
Hmm vang is rich,good nm camper and a good ranger.Also he was very patient the last time i partied with him (Exp was slow....very slow).Also he gave me some solid advices instead of bullsht that other ppl tell u.I havnt partied with devi yet but i saw him near the guide stone yesterday and if i'm right he had the lyrics of a song that i like hehe
 
wolfskymoon said:
Hmm vang is rich,good nm camper and a good ranger.Also he was very patient the last time i partied with him (Exp was slow....very slow).Also he gave me some solid advices instead of bullsht that other ppl tell u.I havnt partied with devi yet but i saw him near the guide stone yesterday and if i'm right he had the lyrics of a song that i like hehe

That doesn't mean he's not an asshole, and being rich hardly means anything when anyone can out and buy gil.....
 
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