Warick - The Immature Taru

[Zoolander]

However it seems that they are hunting MONEY hnms, and giving the MONEY drops to individuals instead of selling and spliting. Money HNMs are not hard in the least to kill, and honestly are not really fun at all. Kirin and such is fun to kill and I go just for that, I have all the armor I want from sky and then some...but money HNM for fun? Your either crazy or lieing to yourself if you dont expect a slice of the pie from a money hnm drop.

 

[Elemmire]

There's more to HNM hunting than the HNMs... there's the fun of being with people you like. Making jokes, talking, etc. Guess people jsut don't care about that though

 

[Charcoip]

money HNM's are fun maybe not something incredibly easy as King Arthro no not worth waiting 3hrs for just for fun but if you dont get items from the weaker HNMs and improve the LS by doing money HNMs your LS will never be able to take down the fun HNM's. You need to improve the LS and everyone in it to be able to take down Vrtra Jormungand Tiamat. And Im sure over time even harder HNMs will be coming out.

 

[Charcoip]

There's more to HNM hunting than the HNMs... there's the fun of being with people you like. Making jokes, talking, etc. Guess people jsut don't care about that though

That too as an HNMLS your supposed to become close bound like a family and make friends not screw others over and try to use the LS for your own needs

 

[meeze]

However it seems that they are hunting MONEY hnms, and giving the MONEY drops to individuals instead of selling and spliting. Money HNMs are not hard in the least to kill, and honestly are not really fun at all. Kirin and such is fun to kill and I go just for that, I have all the armor I want from sky and then some...but money HNM for fun? Your either crazy or lieing to yourself if you dont expect a slice of the pie from a money hnm drop.

My ultimate goal was to have my LS pimped out with EVERYTHING you could want. I wanted Sora walking around with Speed Belts, Krakens, Ridils, E. body, M. Body, all the shit our server is behind.

I never cared about gil, cause I could get it myself. To see my friends I worked with for almost a year wearing the best gear their job could equip wouldve been enough.

Selling "money" drops only pimps someone else out.

The concept of this shell sounds good, obviously it isn't excecuted correctly atm.

 

[Zoolander]

money HNM's are fun maybe not something incredibly easy as King Arthro no not worth waiting 3hrs for just for fun but if you dont get items from the weaker HNMs and improve the LS by doing money HNMs your LS will never be able to take down the fun HNM's. You need to improve the LS and everyone in it to be able to take down Vrtra Jormungand Tiamat. And Im sure over time even harder HNMs will be coming out.

Since when does a LS practice on Big bad serket or simurgh to take down kirin? Sorry, but you are wrong my friend, you do not need to kill them to be able to kill the bigger HNMs.

And you are only proving my point, that giving an e-penis item to one person does not nearly benefit the shell as much as a 10 mil per person split or whatever it is it would have come out to.

Don't preach that "you dont do things for fun like we do" shit either, I've spent well over 300 hours in sky and have pretty much every item a sam/nin/war could ever equip long ago. I go for the fun of it, and the joy I feel when I see ALL the members benefit from farming.

 

[Zoolander]

That too as an HNMLS your supposed to become close bound like a family and make friends not screw others over and try to use the LS for your own needs

lol do you even read what your typing? They are giving people, the individuals items! And look what happened? The douchebag LEFT, goodbye, cya after getting one of the more expensive items in this game. They have a fucking list of items people want, obviously they have individual goals and needs, youd have to be crazy not to. Out for your own needs? Sure as hell sounds like it.

 

[Brin]

not a change it heart i still feel deceived but ellemmire deserves to be able to retrieve the info that he spent personal time on...

I'm sorry but camping HNM's is not for fun... for anyone. Events / missions yes... but what is fun about camping a HNM... people join HNM ls's because they're greedy not because they want to have fun. If it wasn't out of greed then why did we have a list of what every single person wanted out of joining the LS? Wouldn't that list be pointless it'd be a redundant "fun" "excitement" throughout the list. That's obviously not the case and you're ignorant if you think otherwise.

I totally want to camp HNMs for fun....and I cant wait to be high enough lvl to do so with you guys. I also cant wait to see Sky for the first time. Greed is such a horrid things that can tear so many things apart and its just sad. Sure.....I'd love to have a Scorpian Harness to help me in exp ptys to get my lvl up, but I dont think that i've done much to deserve it.....not that I can.....I've been so busy farming for basic equip so that I can actually START going out and exping again. But meh, other than that SH, once i'm at the point of being able to kill HNMs with my friends, I'll have a blast....even if I have a SH or not, no biggie. Fun is much more important than greed.

 

[Charcoip]

Since when does a LS practice on Big bad serket or simurgh to take down kirin? Sorry, but you are wrong my friend, you do not need to kill them to be able to kill the bigger HNMs.

And you are only proving my point, that giving an e-penis item to one person does not nearly benefit the shell as much as a 10 mil per person split or whatever it is it would have come out to.

Don't preach that "you dont do things for fun like we do" shit either, I've spent well over 300 hours in sky and have pretty much every item a sam/nin/war could ever equip long ago. I go for the fun of it, and the joy I feel when I see ALL the members benefit from farming.

Speed Belt on a Nin/Drk is great for tanking Tiamat so why not try to get your nins a speedbelt to go after Tiamat? Serket & Simurgh splits money between all players who participated to -better- theyre equip you cant go in theyre wearing crap equipment and expect to survive a wyrm

 

[Zoolander]

Speed Belt on a Nin/Drk is great for tanking Tiamat so why not try to get your nins a speedbelt to go after Tiamat? Serket & Simurgh splits money between all players who participated to -better- theyre equip you cant go in theyre wearing crap equipment and expect to survive a wyrm

I dont even know how to reply to this, do you even read what you and others are saying? Im just going to stop now. I've had enough laughs at this LS's expense for one night, hope you guys stop screwing yourselves over, got alot of great ppl in the shell, I thought you guys would really tear shit up, hopefully you will.

 

[Bajaratt]

I dont even know how to reply to this, do you even read what you and others are saying? Im just going to stop now. I've had enough laughs at this LS's expense for one night, hope you guys stop screwing yourselves over, got alot of great ppl in the shell, I thought you guys would really tear shit up, hopefully you will.

All you've done so far is say our method sucks because 1 person screwed the shell, ignoring the dozens of others who haven't. Sorry for us building a shell based on more than gil and giving people items rather than letting gil trickle to them; getting them expensive gear rather than letting them try to buy it 6 months down the line.

 

[Firestreak]

I'll tell you why I assume he's laughing and if he's thinking what I assume he's thinking... he's right.

You don't camp money HNMs to build a shell up for Tiamat. You build yourself up in sky to branch outward.

 

[Kat]

I really don't want any ill feelings toward any of you. The majority of people in TheNameless are really good and unselfish people. I'm very happy to read that Moraine has left the shell. I'm very sorry he screwed y'all over though, but sorry to say I expected it.

I used to have a ton or respect for Mora. It's too bad he ruined that a few weeks ago. I will say though, I cannot honestly understand myself, why the hell you guys gave Mora that speed belt after only being in the shell about 2 weeks. I'm sorry, but imho that was just totally nuts. Personally, I feel like Zoolander does in this case. Y'all work so hard camping KA, it should've been sold and divided between the people who were there the nite the second belt dropped. Just my opinion guys.

I wish you all the best of luck. I <3 the majority of y'all in that shell. I just couldn't deal with some of the drama any longer. I'd had enough. It's nice to see that Moraine is gone now though. I have a heartfelt hunch the majority of the drama will now leave your shell also now. Time will tell^^.

 

[Nicolette]

dropped my namless pearl today as the drama for 2 weeks has far outweighed any fun I had. Gonna go play with beating the uberprimes, the apocalypse fight and things noones ever done before. Theres where the adventure has gone, and I want it back.

 

[Sculli]

I worked hard gathering info and writing threads for the lolDynamis section. There are people in lolDynamis that aren't in TheNameless and they are about to get hurt by this if they don't learn yet.

I will set up a forum for lolDymanis here on QCDN as discussed. If needed I can host nameless here as well, even domain hosting.

 

[Araelus]

/sigh

I will set up a forum for lolDymanis here on QCDN as discussed. If needed I can host nameless here as well, even domain hosting.

Thanks, Sculli - TheNameless proper already has a QCDN board. At this point, I'd been moderating our website (the one Warick made) for a long time, but I'm a bit paranoid after reading this thread as to whether or not it is actually safe to go back and salvage all the HNM tactics threads, requests threads, etc. from there.

Elemmire, if you have clean access to the boards, copy as much as you can, please.

Warick, I understand what you meant about feeling screwed over - I just don't think rerouting the site URL was a proper response. Thanks for hosting us (and paying for the bandwidth) for as long as you did. I took the images hosted there out of my signature, since I don't want to cost you anything in the future.

Rappa, Kari, Kat, Nico, Jamal - and the others who left under understandable and I wish more amiable circumstances - I bear you no ill will. If you need anything in game, give me a shout. I hope we can continue on friendly terms. (Let me know if you have any space for a laggy Red Mage in those avatar fights, eh? ^_^)

Moraine, I wasn't there so I don't know exactly what happened with the money/belt. I'd be glad to hear your side if you want to convey it to me.

Charcoip, you're already on my blacklist - so no reason for me to talk to you here. -_-;; Don't know why you're even participating in this thread.

Zoolander, I hope the shell can get some fun stuff done too, and be a beneficial community to its members.

I don't think I responded to everyone who's posted... >_<; sorry, all. It's been a long week for everyone I think. I'm just glad I checked QCDN before I went to update the ToDs on the linkshell board... h34r:

 

[Nugotugo]

dropped my namless pearl today as the drama for 2 weeks has far outweighed any fun I had. Gonna go play with beating the uberprimes, the apocalypse fight and things noones ever done before. Theres where the adventure has gone, and I want it back.

Thats EXACTLY why i left. Most ppl join a end game/HNM shell for fun.... when within a week the drama bullshit out weighs the fun what the fuck you expect....

 

[hellstorm]

:jester: im sorry i have to laugh at that that just funny i dont care who you are.

 

[Moraine]

So lets get some things straightened out here for the benefit of other people reading.

#1: When the speedbelt dropped from KA that i recieved it was voted on for me to recieve it. Never did I ask anyone to vote for me and yet everyone that was there wanted me to have it. According to the ls rules and policies that you guys love so much, any item given to that person becomes theres. I can remember Cythe saying often this ananology: "When you quit a job does your boss ask for your past paychecks back, no so no matter what you decide to do endgame I the items you recieve are your." I was camping 12-15 hours a day in the shell while people like Elemmire sat on their ass in jueno doing "other" stuff. I was voted to take the belt because of this. So......Kiss my ass.

#2: According to Elemmire I borrowed 9 mil from the ls and never paid it back. Lie. Elemmire you arent even an officer in the shell like I was and as usual you are tallking about shit you dont understand. The fact is I borrowed 12 mil from the ls ad 11 mil has been paid back. When Cythe gets back he will get the other 1 mil as I promised he would when I quit.

#3: The reason I quit the ls had nothing to do with greed. If that were the case I dont believe I would have returned the 2 Behemoth hides and the D. cloth I had that belonged to the ls. I quit the shell because I did not agree with the system as it was being implemented. While the system looks good on paper, its not practicle. You may noticed that all the people that were at every camp everyday quit and those like Elemmire are on here whining are still there(with the exception of a few). How many officers quit the shell Elemmire? We decided that the system wasnt working as it was meant to and left. Get over it. I can remember this happening in another shell maube you have heard of it, NH. This is the exact same thing you guys did when you quit NH and now you say its total BS because it happened to you. Karma Found It!

 

[Davio]

walked over? You were told over and over again how much you were appreciated, you were told before that you didn't have to come to EVERY damn thing the LS was going to, you were told to lot on an item or you'd get an item next but you said "no, let *so and so person* get it first". At Rostrum Pumps I even said we should get you a pumps too cause you wanted one for your future WHM but you said for others to get it first. You even told us to put your nobles on the backburner since you couldn't use it yet. How is it your best friend walked all over you when you were basically saying "hey, don't give me this item yet" and keeps howing up to everything BY YOUR OWN CHOICE and not even speak up when you wanted anything? You just are making yourself to be the victim when you are the cause of your own problems.

Warick nailed it right on the stop, who joins HNM LSs to have fun? Fun imo is getting items, being greedy or not thats how i feel. Warick your my bud and all, but the trojan thing was pretty fucked up... lol porn was priceles though.

God damn im so glad i didnt join lolDynamis forumn site. LoL