Warick - The Immature Taru

meeze said:
Doesn't look like Rappa knew when he got recruited. Maybe after a while he got the point, doesn't mean he enjoyed the fact not everyone was active in the shell.

If you joined a gym and were told people there were dedicated to getting in shape, but when you showed up to work out, you saw them socializing on the treadmill eating quarter pounders are you going to be happy there?

Doubt it, because you thought the members were on the same page as you.

Haha, bad example there Meeze. I'm in Weight Watchers and if I saw someone eating quarter pounders while I was trying to work out, the only thing I'd be is envious and foamin' at the mouth^^.

I don't know what else to say to you. All I can say is, look at the previous posts of people who have dropped their pearls recently. Nic, Sandria, me, etc. These are not people who are greedy. We left cuz we just couldn't take the fighting anymore. Who was fighting? Well I do believe that is obvious by the posts also. All I can tell you is, a 1 to 1-1/2 months ago, there was not the drama.
 
The original idea was that the shell would be one that went after HNM with people they enjoyed camping with and just helping each other out and getting nice items for people in the shell when we could. Those that wanted to truly hunt HNMs would show up when they could and the more effort put in would put you higher than those that didn't go as much as you (or couldn't go as much as you) to benefit the shell. Atleast, that's what I was told. That's why I had no problem going to a HNM every now and then when I could (not forcing myself to go all the time when I'd have work, sleep, in game goals to accomplish) and not getting an item. I still don't. It's not a problem.

Rappa, if that's truly what happened than I'm truly sorry for any stress that myself or Ithenas or others put you through for thinking you left purely on greed. It's crap if he truly started ignoring you when you brought up the items and it is a shame cause you certainly were (still are in my point of view) deserving of atleast the one item you really wanted (Nobles Tunic for your WHM). I still would like to know Cythe's side of the story and I'm sure he might have not always noticed the tell now and then or something cause he'd go AFK a bit or people would be /telling him about drama. He seems to be getting more stressed out than he should be with this game. I think him blacklisting you after you left though was more towards him being hurt. After all, you were his right hand man (so to speak) the person he seemed to go to for support and such. Not asking you take on everything on your own or whatnot but just to listen, it's nice to have someone like that so you can just get emotions out. I'm sure he was hurt with you leaving (as I'm sure you felt hurt with him ignoring you).

Now you say that he put all the blame on you, but I see you as sorta doing the same with him. You seem to not accept that you too did not have to always show up to HNMs. You could have taken the breaks you deserved. The shell wasn't gonna die if you weren't there and others would certainly take up getting people to HNM camps if more are needed. Since we mostly camped KA and Behemoth we never needed many there (unless KB chance was high) so there wasn't a point in getting every member out there if they were interested in something else. Though I'd hope those people would realize that not going they wouldn't get much.

Anyways.. I'm sorry that all this happened. I hope you understand that I don't see you badly (atleast not anymore) but I see you and Cythe at fault at the same time (and myself as I'm sure I wasn't helpful in this at all). Good luck with Purpose, sorry this all happened. Maybe one day again you and Cythe will return to a good friendship.
 
The nameless are some of the best people in game. Theyre fun, smart, and selfless. Would anyone here ever say that the people in Nameless were Gilbuyers? MPKers? Theives? Our members aren't underhanded. I don't think You'll find an LS with people more willing to help those in need.

The LS was formed and run with the idea that We would help each other get everything they wanted in game. It wasnt about making quick cash for yourself. I came in and almost laughed, because it seems so unreal and impractical, but at its heart the LS isnt about what you can get for yourself. And they were almost getting it to work.

I think the problems came from Cythe overextending himself. He did want to get everything that everyone wanted. But you cant do that all at once. There just isn't enough time or money to do that right away. With time, however, You can. And He saw that in time everyone would get what they needed. This is what's come back to haunt him and the LS

He forgot that while We were getting great drops and really benefiting some people, alot of people weren't getting anything. YET. It was about giving out big items a few at a time as they came in, not about handing out paltry "salaries" to everyone in the LS. But ppl have bills, and If they trade farming time for camping time, they quickly run out of spare change for gear, food, and tools.

Its an issue that is finally being resolved. We are still giving the big items We get to our members to strengthen the LS, and selling a portion of drops to help ppl with their daily expenses. A little mixed-drink of the noble sentiment of the LS and the practicality of accountants.

The LS wanted to share the Wealth and experience of this great LS with others, and without the new recruits understanding what the LS was all about, there was frustration and people took advantage of the LSs generosity.

Moraine said:
#1: When the speedbelt dropped from KA everyone that was there wanted me to have it. According to the ls rules and policies that you guys love so much, any item given to that person becomes theres. So......Kiss my ass.
#3: The reason I quit the ls had nothing to do with greed. I quit the shell because I did not agree with the system.

But You agreed with the system enough to take the belt. If you didn't agree with the system, you could have sold it and split the proceeds among everyone that had helped you camp KA. Yeah. This was greed. You saw a chance to grab an easy buck and ran.

Mahatma Ghandi believed in non-violence. Would you use that opportunity to take a bat to his face without worrying about being hit back? According to the rules, You can have the belt. But Moraine.

You have no morals, no ethics, and no honor.

Give the belt back. You know that its the only honorable move.

Rappa. You were short-changed. No question in my mind. You were overlooked in what you should have recieved for your time and effort with the LS. You know why? I gotta say it was because Cythe trusted you more than anyone else. Weird, right? But when everyone needed so much gear and money, I'm sure He passed you over because He thought you would understand and be ok with waiting while people who knew him less would be better appeased with items. In his trust of you, He accidentally overlooked you. I think its why He was hurt so much by your leaving, even though I agree with what you did.

Money is funny. It can tear people apart like few things. When you really don't want money to rule your decisions or your life, Thats when it has to be meneged most closely and carefully.

The LS has learned alot in the past month. I think it has the greatest potential of any Ive ever seen. Once there is a better system with more transparancy, I think the LS will tear up the vanadiel, leaving a wake of dead dragons and great times in its wake.

In the attitude of silence the soul finds the path in a clearer light, and what is elusive and deceptive resolves itself into crystal clearness.

Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.

Hate the sin and love the sinner.

There are no:
1. Politics without principles
2. Wealth without work
3. Pleasure without conscience
4. knowledge without character
5. Commerce without morality
6. Science without humanity
7. Worship without sacrifice.

Tomorrows gonna be a sunny day.
 
Awesome post Numa. <3 ...

Numa said:
Tomorrows gonna be a sunny day.

But just remember ...

Tomorrow never comes ...
 
It really bothers me to no end to see this kind of stuff going on among people who would prefer to consider themselves adults. Each and every person I have noticed that has posted here seem to be in college,18+, or somewhat intelligent. Is this the kind of life you people enjoy living? Your real life reflects you in game wether you choose to accept that or not. All this useless drama? Ending friendships and spouting off cocky remarks to make yourself look good or feel better in a video game none the less. Arguing over items and putting their value over a friend or a group of people you consider/ed a team. Arguing over just stupid crap. FFXI is a video game. Nothing more and nothing less. People play the game for various reasons. Wether it be items or friends, people, or items and friends folks have their own reason for sticking around in MMO's. If someone wants to join another shell or quit being a part of a group why cant you guys understand and let it go without having a field day on each other or vandalizing anything to do with the group? We are not all alike just as in real life. There is no reason for any of this. If Moraine and some of her friends aren't happy with the way things or going and decide to start something new then why not support them? They were once your friends and part of your team. They just have different goals. Why is it so hard to just keep your mouths shut and worry about your own business people. It's not hard and the concept is elementary. If there is bad blood then why drag it out? Are you to chickenshit to handle your own business face to face? If so, good luck in the real world and man up. Everyone of you seemed cool upon my entrance to TheNameless and I slowly watched you guys pick each other apart and have fun at each others expense and it's trash. People who made and went to Purpose play for a different reason than the group of folks in TheNameless. That doesn't have to start a fight. You were once part of the same team with the same goals and things changed along the way. That however is no reason to start trouble. If I gave up on my Sister for every time she did something wrong or changed her mind throughout life we'd be fighting until the day we die over me thinking it's wrong of her to live her own life. Me thinking that is wrong. So very wrong. Even though I'm a part of TheNameless this entier post goes for both sides. I'm very very dissapointed in the actions I have saw among some of the people thought to be some of the best people on the server. People this is a video game. A source of entertainment for all to enjoy and there is no reason for all of this, for lack of a better word, shit that is going on. It's childish on both sides and I'm sick of hearing and reading some of the things that come from both sides. You all need to grow up, for the most part, let things go and realize others may not play this game for he same reason you do but that doesn't make them the enemy. Tensions will rise I understand but this is just garbage on a totally different level. What Warick did was wrong and very childish but that's not really the situation at hand here. Purpose has their goals and TheNameless have their goals. Stop biting down each others throats over petty stuff and get to work. Hell, help each other out from time to time. You never know what can get done if you have fun together every once in a while. Also, I know many friendships were broken during this time and would like to ask all of you who lost friends one thing. Is is worth it to value items over friends? Those items will be there tomorrow, the next day, and the day after that but friends wont always be there. Have fun and enjoy the people you know and like and let the people who cause you trouble and grief go. It's not worth the stress to argue and fight and it sure as hell doesn't get things done. You are all, except for two in which I will not name, decent folks you just have different goals. Let the petty crap go and enjoy your stay because it wont last forever.




This doesn't go out to every single poster as some have held a level head through it all or had no business in it what so ever. This also doesn't go just strickly out to TheNameless and Purpose. They aren't the only two LS's with this problem just the ones I can make examples out of.
 
Once again strid caught my words.But anyways i was just happy for tymon that gay porn is gonna keep him busy for a while =)
 
wolfskymoon said:
Once again strid caught my words.But anyways i was just happy for tymon that gay porn is gonna keep him busy for a while =)


This is the kinda usless no content posts sculli cracks down on. WSM you have no business in this so why even stick your nose in it. go sit down and let the grown ups talk please. Although i noticed as soon as gay porn was talked bout in the post you would come running.

Strid, Numa awsome posts both of you. I am truly upset that even after warick was nice enough to restore the site this thread has grown to 11 pages. I know I have no tbeen invilved with endgame long but I have noticed we NA players have some really skilled people but we will never be able to compete with the JP players until we stop fucking bickering amunst ourselves. There is enough camps and enough NMs and HNMs along with other endgame content that we can all share.

I was in the Namless before it went endgame and I am still there although it hurt to see many of my friends leave I hold no grudges. I ask both sides to please just let it go after all it's just pixels. Can't we just go back to having fun? Sunday night at KB eventhough we didn't get claim I had so much fun in all the chaos that it made me forget for a while all the drama of the past week. peple leave for thier own reasons and thats that doesn't mean we still can't be friends and enjoy our play time together. I'm not yelling at anyone I love my LS family and my friends who left I would still go out of my way to help anyone that I consider my freind ^^.

Can we please go back to killing nasty critters now??
 
Damn came in this flame a little late but Warick was in my social linkshell. I hav'nt seem him for at least 3 weeks. I thought he was pretty cool a little arrogant/cocky but cool. Heh yea it seems like something he would do thought made me lol irl.
 
It was just meant for a joke I promise, there was no trojan on my site and if there was one on the site it forwarded to I'm sorry take that up with them. The only file on my server was index.php which had an autoforward script. It's one thing to be funny but to send out trojans is not my style. If I was really heartless I would have just deleted the files.
 
Rappa I thought you are too smart to fall for Moraines bullshit. How many LSs has he been in? I mean end game? Is the total count what 6? 12? No bakers dozen!

You and me had our shit in the past, but from our time in the LS I came to respect you as a good leader, and a great player. If Cythe had just done the right thing and reward you like he should have, this all would not end like this.

Now Moraine walking away with a fucking speed belt, awww poor baby only got a speed belt for a months worth of work.
 
Falsey said:
Now Moraine walking away with a fucking speed belt, awww poor baby only got a speed belt for a months worth of work.

What's funnier than that is the ones that left TheNameless and joined his shell, we're going to have to build an Ark to struggle through that epic flood of tears when he gets what he wants and /breaklinkshell's on them.
 
lol, get a speedbelt, take 9 mil then leave because you don't want to wait to get another item... after one month of being in the ls... just wow.
 
Bud Light Presents: Real Men of Vana'Diel
(real men of vana'diel)
Today we salute you, Mr. Greed Induced Schemer Guy.
(Mr. Greed Induced Schemer Guy)
You bring greed to a new level each day as you find new ways to get exactly what you want.
(Give me teh shineyz!)
Friendship too cheap for you? You bet your butt it is. How else will you be able to get people to pay for your services if their your friend?
(You can get this Cure III but its gonna cost ya!)
Free isnt in your vocabulary, and if there is a new high level, 30 million piece of equipment out there......you will do whatever it takes to get it.
(Lie, cheat, steal....sooo fun!)
So crack open an ice-cold Bud Light you greedy bastard and choke on it. You know how to piss people off, and nobody can ever take that away from you.
(Mr. Greed Induced Schemer Guy)


----------------------------------

Sorry, I couldnt help myself, lol.
 
trizzip said:
Bud Light Presents: Real Men of Vana'Diel
(real men of vana'diel)
Today we salute you, Mr. Greed Induced Schemer Guy.
(Mr. Greed Induced Schemer Guy)
You bring greed to a new level each day as you find new ways to get exactly what you want.
(Give me teh shineyz!)
Friendship too cheap for you? You bet your butt it is. How else will you be able to get people to pay for your services if their your friend?
(You can get this Cure III but its gonna cost ya!)
Free isnt in your vocabulary, and if there is a new high level, 30 million piece of equipment out there......you will do whatever it takes to get it.
(Lie, cheat, steal....sooo fun!)
So crack open an ice-cold Bud Light you greedy bastard and choke on it. You know how to piss people off, and nobody can ever take that away from you.
(Mr. Greed Induced Schemer Guy)


----------------------------------

Sorry, I couldnt help myself, lol.

omg I was singing along and crying laughing so hard. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
 
Moraine is my best friend's cousin (Gamble). He lied to him for four months saying that he sold his account and it was'nt really him so he would'nt get bothered for help or gil by his own cousin. Total derail but yea i think thats pretty lame. Moraine is all in it for himself and does'nt even want to help RL family. He broke an old linkshell (Raindrops) last year cause of some shit like this.
 
Actually Rhyan, raindrops broke because Moraine wanted to join BastokanHighElite along with several members of his static (I was in as well).

The LS was only initially created for a few of Mor's friends & after the members of the static joined it grew. We wanted to join a more active shell with more higher level players (we were highest in raindrops). Do you really expect Moraine to hang on to the shell forever? The remainer members that were interested reformed into a different shell

Had nothing to do with his family, you're talking shit.
 
Ok well, I encourage people keep this kinda crap off boards, since I find better to be worked out IN game...But I suppose you can't win em all. I don't have much to say on this, but I'll say the few things I do think matter.

The shell is far from dead. The system didn't fail, it just did what it was designed to do: Weed out the people who don't belong.

Warick, I did promise you something upon your return, and I was going to do it regardless of your staying or leaving the shell...But you have to return before I can give you shit, and instead you returned and pulled your childish prank while I was in New Hampshire, not giving 2 shits about FFXI. Otherwise, I was ready to give it to you and salute you off. But oh well.

Rappa, stop and think maybe I blisted you because you were pulling some BS around about me ignoring you and trampling you, especially after you personally told me not to worry about your item. And I didn't 'blame' you for anything, I just told it how it was. You decided to overextend yourself just like I have. Oh, and I never remember ignoring anyone regarding your tunic, and only 2 others ever sent me a tell regarding it that weren't you. Sandria, who was willing to work out a deal to exchange HQ Staves for her tunic, and Karih, who was sidelining for you to get it. I do not recall ignoring either of them, or you, so I don't know where the hell that comes from.

Moraine did NOT steal money, and was paying it back. If the 1 mil is in the DB when I log on, then we're even.

Obviously people not involved are putting in their 2 cents now, but if you don't know what my shell is about, you are probably going to sound stupid to half the shell, so don't take offense when they jump you. If you are so curious as to what else happened, please feel free to PM me or something, I just don't feel like writing anymore regarding it.
 
It's a good thing I skimmed through this whole thing. Because, for a while there, I was pretty tempted to leave myself. No, I've got nowhere else to go (not even in the lines of socialonry), and I wasn't expecting any favors. I prefer not to get involved with drama, I just sorta brush it off.

I'm the guy you won't see much in the shell. I don't really want any prizes, I'll just go to where I feel like. Moraine didn't like this! And I was growing a little exhausted of him attempting to guilt-trip me when I was minding my own business. (Try asking me for help before the HNM pops, rather than guilt-trip me after you wipe to it.) I took him for a figurehead in the shell, and that was no good. I thought his way of thinking was the general shell's way of thinking, and I felt unwelcome.

Also remember I'm a very forgetful, and lazy person. You probably have to bug me to get me to go someplace. Again, I don't *want* any rewards. I want to camp and do stuff casual-like. The reason I stay is cause I'm fond of these guys. All of them. Moraine, however, was a douche and if you ask me? He needed kicked, long ago. What the hell is that bullhockey, conveniently leave after getting that nifty speed belt? That makes me sick, I can't even bring myself to leave a certain other shell due to a certain person in it that I want to murder in a certain way, because that certain shell has helped be a bit...in a certain way. It's way too late to say this now, but gtfo.

So, bottom line, I'm glad it's all cleared up. I'm gonna be sticking around after all.

Ohh, nothin makes me sadder than the agent lost his bladder...
 
Charah_ said:
Actually Rhyan, raindrops broke because Moraine wanted to join BastokanHighElite along with several members of his static (I was in as well).

The LS was only initially created for a few of Mor's friends & after the members of the static joined it grew. We wanted to join a more active shell with more higher level players (we were highest in raindrops). Do you really expect Moraine to hang on to the shell forever? The remainer members that were interested reformed into a different shell

Had nothing to do with his family, you're talking shit.

No, no i never said it was because of family. I actually could'nt remember why Raindrops broke but i never really liked Moraine because he did'nt seem to care about anyone but himself.

Maybe I was wrong if so {Please forgive me.} I just heard it from Gamble's point of view.
 
Back
Top