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Peregrine

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The nurse told me his glucose was 17 that morning, and they were ranting about a finger stick level of 0, so I went to make sure he wasn't in a coma. He was just laying there in bed like always. I asked how he was doing this morning just like the last 2 days. He looked at me and shouted, "PERFECT! GET ME UP!" Now low glucose will do this to you. Make you agitated and almost with it but not quite there. I need to check three things for someone with a low blood sugar. First, their mental status. If it was 17 he'd be nearly dead. You check their pulses. His were normal, not high, not bounding. You recheck their sugars while hanging dextrose and demanding that they drink orange juice laced with sugar.

"DAMNIT THIS STUFF TASTES LIKE ORANGE JUICE! SIT ME UP!"
His wife just looked at me, shook her head and kindof half-smiled. There's no freaking way his glucose is 17, I thought as I listened to his potbelly to finish up the exam.

Then he threw up. Dark brown liquid. Seen it before. Cirrhotics tend do that. They swallow blood that bled from their esophagus, and it comes out black from one of two holes. Got the pan and the intern to get the scope ready to diagnose esophageal varices. Again, no big deal. We find em, we band em they stop bleeding. No big deal. His wife doesn't like this, she starts crying. I give a hug. It's no big deal to me, but I can see why she could be freaked out by a little black puke.

Then he shook a little, and it started coming out his nose. Okay, that's an escalation I say to myself, but I've thrown up out my nose many times. Just to be sure, I put my finger on his radial artery while trying to get his attention. Okay, so I'm bad at finding pulses. I can't feel one and he's just tired. I try again, I get no pulse.

Now I have to either mention that I THINK he has no pulse in front of his wife and get it wrong, or mention that he has no pulse and start the OHSHIT code. Either way, this is going to suck because sooner or later someone other than me is going to realize that he's in ****ing asystole.

So he crashes right then and there in front of his wife, the intern and me with all the rights and privileges thereunto reserved. He sucks that dark brown **** into his lungs. We remove that and breathe for him with a bag. He was dead for 8 minutes. I'm sure I broke one of his ribs, but he got a pulse back in return. He goes to the ICU where eventually there's nothing we can do for him.

He was next in line to get a new liver. The only thing that would make him better was a new liver. He didn't get one in time. Now he's basically in a coma, drifting further and further down the transplant list. By tomorrow he'll no longer be a candidate for transplantation because there's no way he could survive the single biggest surgery in the world. It's way too late.

We tell the family that we got his heart to beat again but that he was in a coma. That he would not be getting a liver. That we don't know how long we can keep his blood pressure stable. His sister asks me if she can give him her kidney. "No, ma'am, he needs a liver" is all I can say. His wife adds that the sister has a bad liver anyway and that no one would want it. She gets it. She understands everything we're saying. She was there when he died the first time, she knows. We continue the family meeting. This is getting sadder and sadder the more family members finally get the picture that we were probably a day or two too late. The wife's cell phone rings.

We Wish You a Merry Christmas was the ringtone. It had 2 minutes of talk time left. She explained the situation to whoever called better than I could have, then hung up. We continued. Phone rang again, same ring, but this time her phone dispassionately quit when it was told to. I handed her my cell immediately. She declined. I about lost it.

Be dentists.
 
reminds me of when i worked my first code.. stacked shocks, epi, etc.. arms falling off from cpr from scene to the hospital.. as much as i felt as if i did everything right, textbook, it wasnt my choice to take him. that whole concept of doing it right and they will live is not all its cracked up to be in reality. that was the biggest issue i had to deal with as a medic. its even harder having to deal with the families im sure.
 
I actually kinda teared up a little on that.

For all the shit you give and get around here it's a noble profession and i've got nothing but respect for those who do it for doing it.

It's nice to see a little humanity behind the visage even if it comes from screwed up circumstances.
 
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That was a very sad story =/ What's sadder is that it's so close to christmas ; ;
 
That is sad, especially since I did have a liver transplant 2 christmas's ago. Going back to have my yearly check-up tomarrow.
 
mysticalone said:
that whole concept of doing it right and they will live is not all its cracked up to be in reality.

We know that only about 5% of non-defibrillator codees will regain significant consciousness whether we get a heartbeat back or not. However, the public still ties heartbeat to the living. It gave them comfort that they got an extra 12 hours of him being "alive" while his relatives all came to visit him. They wanted his son to get there before he died. In reality, they make their own reality, and we simply modify it with education and let them take what they will from it.

He stopped being the patient the second his heart did the first time. They don't have to know that if they don't want to, and shouldn't if they so choose. And you never know who that 5% is. And at the same time, across the hall another man was throwing the same dark liquid up. Had the same problems. His heart just didn't stop that day. He got his life back for Christmas, and every time his wife sees us on rounds, her face is a smile from ear to ear.

Mortality for end-stage liver disease waiting for a donor is 50%. How many lives does it take to cover those lost and make it all worth it?
 
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So are you a liver transplant doctor? Like a surgen? or what?
 
My heart breaker is a 26 year old woman with CP, who is blind with severe scoliosis. She gets fed through a tube in her stomach, she can't see or speak, and she really can't move, but you can tell that she is in there, locked in the prison of her body. The sad thing is that she is pretty healthly and has 30- 40 years of nothingness to look forward to.

I start OB after the Christmas break, it will be a relief.
 
I know this story plays out a thousand times a day, but it makes my heart heavy to ponder. My sincere thoughts to you Peregrine for taking the issue as it happens on the front lines. May you find a healthy way to process these things. /bow
 
Thats a lot to take down and live with sorry about this after reading about half of it my eyes just went big reading he ate that stuff back up and the liver part=/
 
Kinkkerbelle said:
I start OB after the Christmas break, it will be a relief.

A pregnant 22 year-old cocaine addict presents to our floor on monday at 26 weeks gestation for high blood pressure and vaginal bleeding. She has been binge-snorting lines for the last week, 3 lines on sunday. Fetal heartrate is above 170. During the course of her hospital stay, she sneaks out and smokes. Not cigarettes. The team decides that we'd rather have the baby crash outside the womb than inside, and subsequently delivers a 26 week old crack addict by c-section.

A pregnant 29 year-old presents to the OB floor with contractions at 20 weeks. She has lost 4 of her last 4 pregnancies, and this is the fifth in danger. We stop her contractions and keep them stopped. She recovers, and we discharge her home. She presents again with contractions. We stop the labor and admit her permanently to the floor. Average stay on mother-baby is 36 hours-ish. She stays one week. Two. Three. There's no way we're going to let this fifth baby die. Four. 24 weeks is a big success for her baby. We can start talking about it living if we can no longer stop delivery. Another week passes. Another one. 26 weeks is another successful landmark. Fetal survival at 26 weeks is *i forget the number, but it takes a big jump up from 24 weeks* Another week. Two more. Now we can start talking about delivering a relatively healthy baby. Everyone is happy. Everyone is proud. Home stretch.

We do a ROUTINE ultrasound of baby. The results indicate total anomylous pulmonary venous return. That means the baby's lungs, which normally shoot blood back into the left heart in one vessel, decided to return blood wherever the hell they wanted to. Why was the baby alive still? Because the lungs don't get blood until the baby takes its first breath. The infant was born at 32 weeks by c-section with the cardiac surgeons standing right there ready for open-heart surgery at breath 1. The good news? Ultrasound gets it wrong sometimes, it's just the nature of the test. This infant was perfectly normal. Premature, but normal.

Welcome to the academic hospital's mother baby unit.

If you focus on the bad, it will quickly bury you no matter what area of medicine you're in. It's just impossible not to sometimes. Acknowledging the bad makes the good that much better though. You don't feel that good after repairing a sick Toyota. Not that I haven't considered quitting and being a mechanic a dozen times, but the good thing about medicine is the worst things that never come to be because you did something to stop them.
 
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Well then, out with some random good news mebbe?

While a heartwrenchingly good read this thread's a bummer :(
 
I have a more difficult time dealing with the bad, which is why there is more volume on it. Nonetheless, at the end of the day one man got a liver and will live, and somewhere she's holding that baby. That's one ****ing precious heartbeat in the man and one ****ing precious baby in her arms.
 
An incredibly well put point. I s'pose it loses a little in translation if you don't work in the field.
 
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Peregrine said:
I have a more difficult time dealing with the bad, which is why there is more volume on it. Nonetheless, at the end of the day one man got a liver and will live, and somewhere she's holding that baby. That's one ****ing precious heartbeat in the man and one ****ing precious baby in her arms.

So you, as a doctor, can have this baby taken away from her, right?

Please say yes...
 
Trippyhippy said:
So you, as a doctor, can have this baby taken away from her, right?
Please say yes...

No, I have a duty to report cases where I suspect the mother is unable to care for her child. Child protective services does the investigating, deciding, and ultimately the separation.

Under no circumstances is a doctor to play the adversary against their patient, which is why the police weren't standing outside her door waiting for her to be discharged.

But of course that kiddo got placed. I doubt she even got to hold it.
 
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sad story on #1.

disgusting story on #2- what is wrong with people? despite that baby being alive and healthy for most part, he/she will suffer from something later due to her dumbass mom's unability to control herself. *sigh*
 
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